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Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Harrekin said:
The funniest one is people who flush with molasses btw.

Why feed your soil microbes but not give any nutes to the plant? Cos that's all molasses is, it's a way to feed soil microbiology.

The microbiology is pointless if you: don't use organic nutes or if you don't feed the plant, because it's the microbes that break up organic nutes to usable nutrient ions for the plant.

It sweetens your buds? What a crock.
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http://forahealthyfuture.com/nutrition/blackstrap-molasses/

Read, learn, then tell us all about molasses.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Harrekin said:
Again, mollasses feeds the soil not the plant, thus it is pointless if you arnt feeding nutes with it.

Stop being a fool and believing the myths, molasses does very very little for the plant itself.
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That is true only for hydroponics. I'm not trying to argue with you here, only provide facts. Molasses feeds microbes which in turn feed plants. To the OP, my apologies for the hijack...will stop posting now:

Soil and its nutritional capacity.
Can soil alone provide all that a plant needs?
Some will say that soil is not just a substrate, and they are right. Soil in itself is a complete microcosm that
carries much more than just minerals.
Soil is composed of a mineral part, an organic part, and living organisms.
A good quality soil contains a good balance of minerals provided by the erosion of rock in variable
proportions of sand, silt and clay. It must be crumbly to insure good root penetration and good aeration.
It must have enough water retention capacity in order to keep the roots moist at all times, and to prevent
matter from leaching down into the deep ground waters.
A good quality soil must contain a sufficient quantity of humus too as, by decomposing organic matter,
humus will continually renew mineral content. At the same time humus will prevent soil from packing and
insure adequate soil aeration and good water retention.
A fertile soil must house a good quantity of living organisms. 1 kg of good soil contains: 3000 billions
bacteria, 400 millions fungi, 50 million algae, 30 million protozoa, nematodes and other worms, and a whole
lot of diverse insects! The role of these beneficial micro organisms is to transform organic matter into the
inorganic minerals required by plants and to mix and stir the earth to keep it moist and well aerated.
All these characteristics bring what could be called the “tang of the soil”, a particular flavour that comes
with the earth. But all soils are not equal, and very few contain all you need for a comprehensive nutritive
program. Some are fertile, of course. Some are poor, others are totally inadequate, and a few may even be
toxic. Some are easy to adapt with a little fertilization, and others need complete transformation.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Soil only feeds your plants if you use organic nutes... If you just feed molasses for the final 2 weeks, you're just feeding microorganisms in the soil for no reason cos there's no nutes left...what don't you get about this?!

Keep arguining but your looking more and more like a dum-dum the more you argue.

EDIT: And molasses with synthetic/chemical nutes is a completly pointless joke btw.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Harrekin said:
Soil only feeds your plants if you use organic nutes... If you just feed molasses for the final 2 weeks, you're just feeding microorganisms in the soil for no reason cos there's no nutes left...what don't you get about this?!

Keep arguining but your looking more and more like a dum-dum the more you argue.

EDIT: And molasses with synthetic/chemical nutes is a completly pointless joke btw.
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I didn't respond b/c I agree, molasses is an organic nutrient. I use molasses throughout the entire grow, but I don't flush so I use it right up to chop. I'm going to back-off on the next grow though, probably only 1 molasses tea every 3rd water as opposed every other watering. I don't use synthetics/chemical nutes, I'm strictly an organic soil grower.
 
slonez47

slonez47

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This thread has been very interesting. For what it's worth, Jorge's Bible says on page 76, " Avoid the taste of organic or chemical fertilizers in harvested buds by flushing with plain water or a cleaning solution to remove any residuals and chemicals that have built up in soil or plant foliage. " Now that is not to say that I would'nt be willing to try the taste test for myself with two plants grown one flushed and one not and make my own conclusion. I mean even a bad lay is'nt horrible. But Jorge is'nt some stranger posting a thread. Check it out.
 
slonez47

slonez47

Active Member
Harrekin said:
Again, mollasses feeds the soil not the plant, thus it is pointless if you arnt feeding nutes with it.

Stop being a fool and believing the myths, molasses does very very little for the plant itself.
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I'm from the school of take care of the soil and it will take care of your plants. So in that respect molasses is a good thing.
 
GROLOCO88

GROLOCO88

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Hey everyone thank you for all your input and help. The whole reason I asked is because we've heard of ppl harvesting certain parts of the plant before others and we've wondered how this is possible if you need to flush before harvest. How do you flush one part while still feeding the other? So we figure it can't be too important lol. Nevertheless we decided to flush for a few days then chop :D ill try to get some pics up of our girls soon. We grew super lemon haze and our closet smells phenomenal lol.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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slonez47 said:
This thread has been very interesting. For what it's worth, Jorge's Bible says on page 76, " Avoid the taste of organic or chemical fertilizers in harvested buds by flushing with plain water or a cleaning solution to remove any residuals and chemicals that have built up in soil or plant foliage. " Now that is not to say that I would'nt be willing to try the taste test for myself with two plants grown one flushed and one not and make my own conclusion. I mean even a bad lay is'nt horrible. But Jorge is'nt some stranger posting a thread. Check it out.
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You realise Jorge openly admits to just copying what other people say and just putting it into his book? None of ANYTHING he says is verifiable unless you try it yourself.

He openly says he writes a guide based on others experiences,Guide not rules.
 
k0ijn

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Harrekin said:
You realise Jorge openly admits to just copying what other people say and just putting it into his book? None of ANYTHING he says is verifiable unless you try it yourself.

He openly says he writes a guide based on others experiences,Guide not rules.
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Don't bother arguing with then mate.
Some people simply don't listen to reason and no matter what you say they will never change their opinion.
There is so much misinformation going around it's unbelievable.
 
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wbd

Well-Known Member
k0ijn said:
Don't bother arguing with then mate.
Some people simply don't listen to reason and no matter what you say they will never change their opinion.
There is so much misinformation going around it's unbelievable.
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Yup, sure is. :) :) :)
 
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Gioganja

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SunnyD said:
harshness comes with improper drying and curing...
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it also comes with smoking bud saturated with nutrients. From my personal experience, I say flush for a week before chop time, even if that means waiting longer to smoke.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Gioganja said:
it also comes with smoking bud saturated with nutrients. From my personal experience, I say flush for a week before chop time, even if that means waiting longer to smoke.
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I dunno how many times it has to be said...nutrients ARE NOT stored in buds, they are stored in the fan leaves. So how could the buds possibly "be soaked in nutrients" ?
 
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