beardo
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I don't think "Iraq" has a say. The US has a say and might try to use iraq as a reason, but Israel could fly over if they want unless we prevent it- Israel would run over Iraq if they wanted to
Stop Bluffing, Israel
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The Ruiner
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If you control the airspace, you definitely have a say.
The Cryptkeeper
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They could do so with a facade of neutrality don't you think? They are flying thru their airspace and all ya know, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, all that. However, people have gotten away with dumber things.
The Cryptkeeper
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LOL I wasn't in support either way. I'm just saying that we are their biggest ally, we do hate Iran, but them flying thru Iraq on a bombing mission with out our approval would put everybody in a bad situation and might not fully be appreciated.
The Ruiner
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It would be totally obvious where the planes came from...I don't think that there would be anyone convinced of "neutrality" when one country allows another to fly over its airspace to bomb a third country...
Iran is irrational, not totally fucking stupid.
Iran is irrational, not totally fucking stupid.
The Cryptkeeper
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The neutrality and argument for ignorance is that they weren't going to bomb the planes out of the air, and they weren't in control of the planes actions to bomb the third country. The argument for ignorance is a well known logical fallacy, yes, but like I said, people have gotten a way for dumber things.
beardo
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Im just saying its the permission of the US not Iraq that would matter, we controll Iraq and anything they have is planes we gave them or allowed them to get and all there people trained by us
beardo
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Controll airspace? When we went in they couldn't controll their bowels
Filthy Phil
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Yeah....but why should we attack them? We have long range weaponry too, as well as a history of unstable aggressiveness, should they attack us because of that?
Why must we be imperial?
The Cryptkeeper
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LOL We're passive aggressively imperial and in a very indirect way.
growsolo
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Israel has never signed a formal agreement of alliance with any nation, ever, this includes the United States of America.
The Ruiner
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That's the point...no formal alliances, yet everyone thinks that the US/Israel relationship is the only one Israel has, which is entirely false.
Israel has strong ties with countries like Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia...all allowing some sort of peace for Israel. If the US was the only relationship the Israeli's had, they would have ceased to exist a long time ago.
Dizzle Frost
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they went to war with egypt in the 60s for Golan Hieghts, Isreal may do bizniz withthose countries, but i would say its a strong relationship
growsolo
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Well, what I was speaking about was a mutual agreement between Izzy and any other nation that states that if either country goes to war that the other will join in, Izzy always avoids this type of arrangement, the reasons they avoid such an arrangement are many, but primarily it is because their forces are very small in number, and as such are not expendable beyond the defense of the mothership. Chances are good that Izzy will never engage in any full fledged ground war with any nation that doesn't border them. Now granted, Izzy may occasionally send some Mossad agents or special forces types into war zones that are away, but those contingents will almost always be very limited in numbers.
The Cryptkeeper
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doc111
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They fought Syria for the Golan Heights, it was the Sinai that Israel ganked from Egypt.
hehe! Yes they have peace agreements with all of those countries but I wouldn't characterize them as "strong ties".
They also got Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan. All of these land acquistions occurred as a result of the 6 Day War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
(Uh oh! I just used a Wikipedia link!)
Dizzle Frost
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Yeah it was Syria...but im prety sure Egypt used thier air support...im going off memory which is shotty at best anymore LOLThey fought Syria for the Golan Heights, it was the Sinai that Israel ganked from Egypt.
They also got Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan. All of these land acquistions occurred as a result of the 6 Day War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
(Uh oh! I just used a Wikipedia link!)
All you have to do is watch politcal events between Isreal and muslim nations...you can see the hostility...i personaly know a Isreali soldier, and they have zero love loss for any muslims really, and there pretty proud people, i like Isrealis and i love their women !
doc111
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The Israelis fought off 3 hostile Arab nations in 6 DAYS!!!!!! And this wasn't the first time they'd been attacked by their neighbors! I'd be hostile too if every time I turned around I was being attacked by my neighbors! lol!!!!!!
Gotta love those Israeli women!
What am I talking about? I love ALL women! haha!!!!
The Cryptkeeper
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Natalie Portman huh?The Israelis fought off 3 hostile Arab nations in 6 DAYS!!!!!! And this wasn't the first time they'd been attacked by their neighbors! I'd be hostile too if every time I turned around I was being attacked by my neighbors! lol!!!!!!
Gotta love those Israeli women!