The 12-12 From Seed Thread

fshields1

fshields1

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Hey all,
I'm not new to growing but am to the 12/12 from seed world. I used to have a perpetual grow before I got busted about two years ago (luckily they didnt take any of my equipment). But am now looking to start a small scale perpetual grow at 12/12 from seed. I was just wondering if I could get some advice on a few questions I have. 1 what kind of starting schedule should I be looking a start 1 every 10 days or 2 every 20 days. And 2 is there any problems I should watch for other than typical growing ones? My grow cabinet is a converted dresser that measures 18" deep x 32" wide x 38" tall, I have a 400 hps with a cool tube in it, and another 4" inlet with an online fan. I am able to keep the temp between 64-78 and humidity around 40%.


Any advice would be greatly appreciated
 
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jimmygreenfingers

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fshields1 said:
Hey all,
I'm not new to growing but am to the 12/12 from seed world. I used to have a perpetual grow before I got busted about two years ago (luckily they didnt take any of my equipment). But am now looking to start a small scale perpetual grow at 12/12 from seed. I was just wondering if I could get some advice on a few questions I have. 1 what kind of starting schedule should I be looking a start 1 every 10 days or 2 every 20 days. And 2 is there any problems I should watch for other than typical growing ones? My grow cabinet is a converted dresser that measures 18" deep x 32" wide x 38" tall, I have a 400 hps with a cool tube in it, and another 4" inlet with an online fan. I am able to keep the temp between 64-78 and humidity around 40%.


Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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On average its 11/12 weeks start to finish, your size cab perhaps 1 every couple of weeks, might be able to do 1 every 10 days but depends on strain i suppose, as you know what your doing you'll get a feel of what's gonna work best with your setup. Height wise your cabs fine, tallest ive had is about 34" althouigh my lemon skunk might top that lol. No real issues with 12/12. its a great way to grow.
 
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what what

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Bluejeans said:
You know... I started with one of those...got f'd up the first week and screwed up my lights. Fortunately, I caught it and fixed it right away but I took that stupid timer right back. I've been using one of the old style where you pull up the tabs for lights on, and down for lights off...15 minute increments...never failed once. Cost me $10.
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they have those at lowes right now in the christmas department for 5.95!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like em a lot. got two.
 
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jimmygreenfingers

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Mr G row said:
i think people are crazy who grow in the loft! lol but why dont you build something? it would be better!
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Haha... agreed Mr G. I really dont fancy the idea at all but ive really got nowhere else, im running at full capacity in my garage. What with 3 large cabs plus a smaller one for clones and seeds its getting crowded in there. Its only for a few mothers so dont have to go mad riggin up a full grow room....one cooltube and fan will do the job and i'll only have to go up there every couple of days for feeding.
 
Mr G row

Mr G row

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jimmygreenfingers said:
Haha... agreed Mr G. I really dont fancy the idea at all but ive really got nowhere else, im running at full capacity in my garage. What with 3 large cabs plus a smaller one for clones and seeds its getting crowded in there. Its only for a few mothers so dont have to go mad riggin up a full grow room....one cooltube and fan will do the job and i'll only have to go up there every couple of days for feeding.
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just do your best to hide the heat! im thinking in january to try 12/12 from seed hydro, maybe DWC its about time i tried hydro i have been growing along time now an i just feel like a robot not even thinking about what im doing when i mix food so im thinking a bit of dwc might give me something to think about. has anyone done this on here yet?
 
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jimmygreenfingers

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Got some correx insulation panels knocking about so ill use them and ill vent the heat straight into the house. There is a thread somewhere on here with a guy doing 12/12 from seed in dwc. Im a hydro guy....nft was what i ran for years.... fantastic way to grow, done dwc and lots of diy sprinkler and nft setups as well. Im gonna do pvc pipe nft for my clone runs in my new cabs ive built. I love the coco which is what im in now but im getting through a fair amount of the stuff and getting rid off the waste after a grow is a pain in the arse, so nft for clones and coco for seeds is my plan at this moment...but that can soon change lol. DWC 12/12 from seed under a 600w would be good i reckon.
 
Mr G row

Mr G row

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jimmygreenfingers said:
Got some correx insulation panels knocking about so ill use them and ill vent the heat straight into the house. There is a thread somewhere on here with a guy doing 12/12 from seed in dwc. Im a hydro guy....nft was what i ran for years.... fantastic way to grow, done dwc and lots of diy sprinkler and nft setups as well. Im gonna do pvc pipe nft for my clone runs in my new cabs ive built. I love the coco which is what im in now but im getting through a fair amount of the stuff and getting rid off the waste after a grow is a pain in the arse, so nft for clones and coco for seeds is my plan at this moment...but that can soon change lol. DWC 12/12 from seed under a 600w would be good i reckon.
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page 420 time for a smoke lol, im getting sick of all the wast so thats why i want to try it, DWC looks like its easy enough to try hydro the 1st time, i have been trying to read about what is the best way to do it. what have you found to be the best hydro setup to use?
 
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jimmygreenfingers

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For me its NFT, recirculating hydro system is what i like no question about it. Its quiet, simple and can yield very well and with one res its easy to top up and keep an eye on the ec\ph. I like DWC but my back is fucked after falling off a roof so bending down to check on ph/ec and doing top ups and moving them about aint for me, ran 6 buckets once and never again...although for 12/12 from seed DWC would be the better option..... with different phenos from seed atleast in dwc you can move your buckets about so smaller plants can recieve light, with nft once you place your plants in postion there stuck there so no chance of an even canopy and smaller plants will just get lost. For clone runs, NFT tho cant beat it for a sog grow.... looking forward to getting back into water culture as ive been in coco for a while now. There really aint much init when it comes to hydro all methods have there pros and cons its just figuring out whats best for you and your style of growing.
 
Mr G row

Mr G row

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jimmygreenfingers said:
For me its NFT, recirculating hydro system is what i like no question about it. Its quiet, simple and can yield very well and with one res its easy to top up and keep an eye on the ec\ph. I like DWC but my back is fucked after falling off a roof so bending down to check on ph/ec and doing top ups and moving them about aint for me, ran 6 buckets once and never again...although for 12/12 from seed DWC would be the better option..... with different phenos from seed atleast in dwc you can move your buckets about so smaller plants can recieve light, with nft once you place your plants in postion there stuck there so no chance of an even canopy and smaller plants will just get lost. For clone runs, NFT tho cant beat it for a sog grow.... looking forward to getting back into water culture as ive been in coco for a while now. There really aint much init when it comes to hydro all methods have there pros and cons its just figuring out whats best for you.
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thanks mate, i know who to ask if i have a problem now lol after i get the hang of this dwc im thinking about something else with 1 res flood an drain or something so i can have fewer plants an do a scrog thats what i have been doing for years now before i tried 12/12 and i missing it already. i just love the mass of buds you can see with scrog and the amount you can get off fuck all plants is amazing!
 
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jimmygreenfingers

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SCROG in DWC would be fantastic but any hydro method would work well. Ive never scrogged myself i agree they look shit hot with all those buds from a few plants its just for me its extra time training thos girls into postion, not sure how long it would take i suppose a couple of extra weeks? and time is money as they saying goes. For a percy grower scrog is great no doubt there but im going down the SOG route, just means a bit more work sorting out a place for mothers and looking after them and clones.
 
Mr G row

Mr G row

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jimmygreenfingers said:
SCROG in DWC would be fantastic but any hydro method would work well. Ive never scrogged myself i agree they look shit hot with all those buds from a few plants its just for me its extra time training thos girls into postion, not sure how long it would take i suppose a couple of extra weeks? and time is money as they saying goes. For a percy grower scrog is great no doubt there but im going down the SOG route, just means a bit more work sorting out a place for mothers and looking after them and clones.
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yeah i was training for quite a while, maybe 2 1/2 months but i only have the one project so its not as bad for me. i was getting about 60oz off 10 plants with 3 600whps when i was doing that wont be doing as many this time dont have enough space maybe 5 plants will be enough.
 
CinnamonGirl

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If I am to understand--the goal of a 12/12 from seed grow is to produce a plant that is small, bud heavy and has a 60 dayish seed to smoke? And I was also wondering if you keep the same light bulb throughout?
 
Mr G row

Mr G row

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CinnamonGirl said:
If I am to understand--the goal of a 12/12 from seed grow is to produce a plant that is small, bud heavy and has a 60 dayish seed to smoke? And I was also wondering if you keep the same light bulb throughout?
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yeah the aim is small plant and as much smoke as possible! usually about 11 12 weeks start to finish you can use a dual spectrum hps all the way through.
 
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