Canadians, do you like your healthcare?

VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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Canadians, do you like your healthcare or would you like to see it privatized like the U.S and not pay taxes? Or would it be more, since a lot would have to pay for insurance?
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Fuck yeah. Anytime I've been seriously injured I've never waited in a waiting room (and never paid a bill either).
 
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tellno1

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well the waiting time isnt much different here in canada where i live .. 3 - 6hr wait .. but oh yes i do love the heathcare system .. private sucks, paying a big premium and if your just scrapeing by and cant afford it , you are screwed
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Where I live in Canada it goes by how injured you are. When I ripped my leg open I waited no more than 10 minutes for the Dr., in out, wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am. Was backing drinking on the patio in 2 hours....

But....

When I lived in Calgary the hospitals were so jammed full women were having miscarriages in the waiting rooms....

80% of people who are at the hospital should be going to see their family doctor, not wasting the on-call doctors time at the emergency room. But everyone thinks that they're the sickest and should get to go first. Regardless of what you can say about wait times if you are actually hurt, they don't exist....
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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I had a gaping wound in my leg. Almost to the bone. I was there 7 hours. Other patients set up a chair to help elevate my leg. The doctors and nurses wouldn't even come by to look at it.

What I find interesting and a little amusing is everyone keeps harping about higher taxes with universal healthcare. What's the difference between higher taxes and paying insurance premiums out of your paycheck? I'm pretty sure the premiums we're paying in the U.S. cost far more than the taxes taken out in Canada.
 
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tellno1

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Carne Seca said:
I had a gaping wound in my leg. Almost to the bone. I was there 7 hours. Other patients set up a chair to help elevate my leg. The doctors and nurses wouldn't even come by to look at it.

What I find interesting and a little amusing is everyone keeps harping about higher taxes with universal healthcare. What's the difference between higher taxes and paying insurance premiums out of your paycheck? I'm pretty sure the premiums we're paying in the U.S. cost far more than the taxes taken out in Canada.
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not to mention the people in the US that cant afford the premiums .....
 
sync0s

sync0s

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Carne Seca said:
I had a gaping wound in my leg. Almost to the bone. I was there 7 hours. Other patients set up a chair to help elevate my leg. The doctors and nurses wouldn't even come by to look at it.

What I find interesting and a little amusing is everyone keeps harping about higher taxes with universal healthcare. What's the difference between higher taxes and paying insurance premiums out of your paycheck? I'm pretty sure the premiums we're paying in the U.S. cost far more than the taxes taken out in Canada.
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1) You get a choice in insurance company as well as hospital (I realize the second exists with universal)
2) You have the right not to get insurance (If you have money in the bank, why in the world would you need insurance?)
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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sync0s said:
1) You get a choice in insurance company as well as hospital (I realize the second exists with universal)
2) You have the right not to get insurance (If you have money in the bank, why in the world would you need insurance?)
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Yeah right, the choice is that the insurance company can charge you unrealistic monthly premiums (over 500 dollars per month in my case). Especially if you have pre-existing conditions. Only the 1% can afford to pay their hospital/doctor/treatment/medication costs out of pocket. The rest of us have to depend on ever dwindling benefits provided by employers/the government or we simply go without.
 
sync0s

sync0s

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Carne Seca said:
Yeah right, the choice is that the insurance company can charge you unrealistic monthly premiums (over 500 dollars per month in my case). Especially if you have pre-existing conditions. Only the 1% can afford to pay their hospital/doctor/treatment/medication costs out of pocket. The rest of us have to depend on ever dwindling benefits provided by employers/the government or we simply go without.
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While I couldn't afford seriously expensive treatments out of pocket; I can afford most things, because I've managed my money well enough to save. Keep in mind, the government created HMO's. I'm paying college for myself out of pocket as well.
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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VILEPLUME said:
So higher taxes, sometimes long waits and being called "Socialists" doesnt bother you?
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Some things should be socialist... like health care and education. Why would being called a socialist bother me? It's just a name, and I know that providing free health care to people is more important than worrying about some label.

With that said, Canada does not have even close to the best health care system in the world, but it's still leaps and bounds ahead of the USA...
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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Carne Seca said:
Yeah right, the choice is that the insurance company can charge you unrealistic monthly premiums (over 500 dollars per month in my case). Especially if you have pre-existing conditions. Only the 1% can afford to pay their hospital/doctor/treatment/medication costs out of pocket. The rest of us have to depend on ever dwindling benefits provided by employers/the government or we simply go without.
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Pay out of pocket?
Wtf
Their companys pay everything
ie
The shareholders
 
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