102 Things Not To Do If You Hate Taxes

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NoDrama

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dukeanthony said:
Read the GI bill and what it created.
Its a few posts up.
Yes you can go to school on the gi bill
but the legislation that we know as the GI bill also provided sevices
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Stop acting like a moron and just admit you were mistaken and move on, stop playing the game where you pretend to save face, becasue the charade has gone on long enough. The GI Bill and the VA are separate things. The GI Bill did not create the VA and the GI Bill will not let you take out a loan for anything at all, it can only be used for education purposes. The only thing you can use the GI Bill for is to go to school, period.
 
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dukeanthony

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NoDrama said:
Stop acting like a moron and just admit you were mistaken and move on, stop playing the game where you pretend to save face, becasue the charade has gone on long enough. The GI Bill and the VA are separate things. The GI Bill did not create the VA and the GI Bill will not let you take out a loan for anything at all, it can only be used for education purposes. The only thing you can use the GI Bill for is to go to school, period.
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On June 22, 1944, the Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944 became law; it was commonly known as the G.I. Bill of Rights. By the time the original G.I. Bill ended in July 1956, 7.8 million World War II veterans had participated in an education or training program and 2.4 million veterans had home loans backed by the Veterans' Administration (VA).


Chapter 33 (Post-9/11 G.I. Bill)
Main article: Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2008
Congress, in the summer of 2008, approved an expansion of benefits beyond the current G.I. Bill program for military veterans serving since September 11, 2001, originally proposed by Senator James Webb. Beginning in August 2009, recipients became eligible for greatly expanded benefits, or the full cost of any public college in their state. The new bill also provides a housing allowance and $1,000 a year stipend for books, among other benefits.
The VA announced in September 2008 that it would manage the new benefit itself instead of hiring an outside contractor after protests by veteran's organizations and the American Federation of Government Employees. Veterans Affairs Secretary James B. Peake stated that although it was "unfortunate that we will not have the technical expertise from the private sector," the VA "can and will deliver the benefits program on time


 
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In addition to education and training, the GI Bill also provided home and farm loans, supported by the VA. The Montgomery GI Bill allows individuals up to 36 months of educational benefits, and participants can receive over $36,000 in tuition and assistance. The purpose of The Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) is:
  • To help veterans readjust to civilian life
  • To give tuition assistance for college or trade school to those who cannot otherwise afford it
  • To restore education and vocational opportunities lost because of active military duty
  • To aid and encourage the All-Volunteer Force program of the Armed Forces
  • To aid in retentions of personnel in the Armed Forces
  • To aid the nation as a whole through the development of a more highly educated and skilled work force
The GI Bill benefits, similar to the VA mortgage benefits, are not solely limited to veterans. They are also extended to spouses and children of veterans. The Survivors� and Dependents� Educational Assistance Program (DEA) of the GI Bill provides aid to children and spouses of veterans who:
  • Are permanently and totally disabled because of a service related issue, or
  • Have been listed as missing in action for more than 90 days, or
  • Were captured in the line of duty, or
  • Are being held by a hostile force or foreign government, or
  • Died while on active duty or as a result of a service related issue
The DEA allows children between the ages of 18 and 26, 8 years to take advantage of these benefits. Spouses are allowed 10 years to claim the DEA benefits.

The GI Bill has undergone many changes since 1944, which has allowed the GI Bill to suite the individual needs of veterans through the years. Currently, MGIB is available to veterans who enlisted and entered active duty after June 30, 1985 and, at this time, MGIB benefits represent 78 percent of the total VA educational assistance funds. MGIB is available to service members and veterans that
  • Were honorably discharged
  • Have met their basic service requirement
  • Have received a high school diploma or its equivalent,
  • Have completed a minimum of two years of continuous active duty
This version of the MGIB is a contributory program, which means that to participate the individual�s service pay is automatically reduced by $100 per month for 12 months. The government then matches the money, and gives $2 for every $1 the enlisted individual earns in this program.

The MGIB-SR is another type of the GI Bill, geared towards providing assistance to members of the Selected Reserve, including National Guard units. Eligible reservists are entitled to educational benefits of $208.93 a month, and many states are now offering their own local tuition assistance programs in addition to those offered by the MGIB-SR. Generally, to be eligible, a reservist must:
  • Have accepted a 6 year reserve obligation after July 1, 1985
  • Have completed high school or its equivalent
  • Have completed Initial Active Duty for Training (IADT), and
  • Continue to satisfactorily participate in required Selective Reserve training
 
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NoDrama

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Oh I see where your coming from, you are actually referring not to the education program known as the Montgomery GI Bill, but the actual BILL that was put before congress and signed into law by president Roosevelt. We are talking about the Montgomery GI Bill here bub, not the bill that was before congress 70 fucking years ago. Just a big misunderstanding I guess.
 
canuckgrow

canuckgrow

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A wee bit harsh on the OP I think....my take was that we all have to pay for certain things that we use and enjoy. So if there was no tax to pay for these things? Where would the money come from? Some say private corporations. Really? Is that because the corporate world has prooven itself to be worthy of such responsibility?

The problem is the great big bed that our Governments are lounging in along with the corporate world....Some how some way we need to hit ctrl, Alt,Delete and reset the system after a complete virus scan to weed out the virus's lol.....Greedy,power hungry politicians and corporate fat cats rule this continent and it sucks for everyone else.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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You forgot do not grow marijuana, killing people in foreign lands oh and you also forgot "funding prisons".

Without involuntary taxation it is likely the United States would be unable to maintain the war on people growing plants, incarcerate them and kill people in foreign lands.
 
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