Anyone using Advanced Nutrients full Grandmaster line?

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NoBarriers

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decrimCA said:
Oh, the mythical Grandmaster lineup. I mean, it's not actually a myth, but it's something that I don't use. And I don't think I'll ever need to use.

I wish.

Here's the scoop that I know, correct me if I'm wrong:

Sensi A&B
Voodoo Juive
Big Bud
B-52
Overdrive
Piranha
Bud Candy
Final Phase
Tarantula
Nirvana
Sensizym
Bud Ignior
Rhino Skin
Scorpion Juice

It's a lot and it's scary to most growers because it's really too much for the average dude who doesn't want ot spend a lot of money or time growing. Like me. But for those who want to grow stellar stuff, it certainly seems to cover as many needs for yoru grow room as possible.

And if you've spend thousands of dollars on your grow room, then why wouldn't you also sepnd that or more on nutrients? I mean, I wouldn't, but why not do it all if you're going to do it it at all?

Now, I don't know why you said 'buyer beware' since you haven't used it before. I though this was goign to be your experience with it. LOL
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Ya I never put buyer beware. Someone who can edit other peoples posts felt the need to edit my post for me. Don't know why but kind of a crappy move. I was simply looking for opinions. I've decided that I'm not going to waste my money or time on it....
 
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irieie

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NoBarriers said:
Ya I never put buyer beware. Someone who can edit other peoples posts felt the need to edit my post for me. Don't know why but kind of a crappy move. I was simply looking for opinions. I've decided that I'm not going to waste my money or time on it....
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while i may agree with the message, i dont feel that it is the mods role to be doctoring others' posts. this is kind of an infringement upon ones right to express themselves which i believe we should all have no matter the opinion.
 
aeroman

aeroman

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irieie said:
the pro growers usually get hooked up from AN so people like you will think exactly that^^^.
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that only makes sense if you believe that there's nothing better than Advanced Nutrients out there.
bcaus if there is something better and they used that instead they would be harder to beat right?

you compete to win
so u want what will help you most to win not necessarily what is free

its like saying that because dodge sponsers a driver and gives him a car the race he wins has nothing to do with the car
the driver is an important part sure but the car has to be damn good or it wouldnt carry him to the win

homebrewer said:
I think the real definition of 'pro' means you make a living doing it.
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if u can beat a pro in a competition i would say ur a pro
if u do it for a living sure ur a pro
if u used to do it for a living i would call that a pro 2

theres more to it than that and it doesnt really matter if everyone agrees on what makes u a pro grower or not

the idea is what is important
pro or great or guru whatever u want to call it there are a lot of guys in that category that use AN

NoBarriers said:
Ya I never put buyer beware. Someone who can edit other peoples posts felt the need to edit my post for me. Don't know why but kind of a crappy move. I was simply looking for opinions. I've decided that I'm not going to waste my money or time on it....
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thats pretty shady
its like putting words in ur mouth

i would be seriously p'd off
 
aeroman

aeroman

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whats ur point?

it just says a police agent said "Gino at Advanced Nutrients" would vouch for him
doesnt say nuthin bout whether that was true and it wouldnt be the first time a cop lied to get a bust if it wasnt

ur not sayin its a bad thing the cops got Bacon off the street r u?
 
MurshDawg

MurshDawg

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I tell you what. If I decide to stick with AN I think I would use their jungle juice. Way more affordable than using connoseiur as a base.
 
MurshDawg

MurshDawg

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Is it me or is Canadian english like supper vague? I couldn't make heads or tales of it. Eh, what do I know; I'm just a dumb yank.
 
MurshDawg

MurshDawg

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yea I checked the "proof" and there is none to what you are saying. Is AN overpriced? Yes, I believe it is. However, I would like to say if AN is nothing more than the hydro industry's snake oil salesmen. Than surely they would've been found out by now and ruined. I am sure GH, Dyna-Gro, and the rest would love nothing more than for AN to be eliminated. However, AN decided to market itself to folk like you and me and not farmer john who has a seasonal pumpkin patch. They did so with resounding success. I drank the AN kool-aid and it tastes like "blue" which is fucking delicious. I am sure the other flavors of kool-aid are just as good; I might even try grape sometime but you shouldn't hate on someone's personal preference. That's just me, though.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Ok so you didnt read the part where a Government agency tested their products and found they don't actually contain the elements listed in the concentrations listed and contain huge amounts (relatively speaking) of heavy metals?

Ok I'll set you a challenge, run AN base nutes (Sensi for example) only against any other base nutes on the market. AN will lose every time cos they're not complete. You NEED to buy all the 15 bottles of crap to match up to the likes of Dyna-grow, Jacks, Hesi or Cannas base nute formulas (which are complete).
 
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irieie

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Harrekin said:
Ok so you didnt read the part where a Government agency tested their products and found they don't actually contain the elements listed in the concentrations listed and contain huge amounts (relatively speaking) of heavy metals?

Ok I'll set you a challenge, run AN base nutes (Sensi for example) only against any other base nutes on the market. AN will lose every time cos they're not complete. You NEED to buy all the 15 bottles of crap to match up to the likes of Dyna-grow, Jacks, Hesi or Cannas base nute formulas (which are complete).
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i would agree with you with one exception and that is jungle juice. the only reason it is complete is because they completely ripped off GH flora line.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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All be told, I doubt if AN has squat market share, reason why they have to lie and cheat their way thru.
 
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irieie

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its funny because for so long marijuana has been unregulated and illegal so nute comapnies could make any expressed warranty they wished without worry of actually having to prove it. it is interesting to see that as MMJ becomes more regulated their expressed warranties are being challenged by the state. i am just waiting for the first civil suit for tortuous fraud against them. people dont realize that AN can say whatever they want about their products because all the claims are about an illegal activity anyway. its not like growers can take the to civil court and say "they claimed a 43% increase and their product did not deliver."
 
Tbot

Tbot

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irieie said:
its funny because for so long marijuana has been unregulated and illegal so nute comapnies could make any expressed warranty they wished without worry of actually having to prove it. it is interesting to see that as MMJ becomes more regulated their expressed warranties are being challenged by the state. i am just waiting for the first civil suit for tortuous fraud against them. people dont realize that AN can say whatever they want about their products because all the claims are about an illegal activity anyway. its not like growers can take the to civil court and say "they claimed a 43% increase and their product did not deliver."
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I'd imagine this works for any fruiting flower you grow with the product. Ex: tomatoes. if you don't get bigger yields, sue them. Personally I already have micro grow bloom av base, jungle Juice base, and am currently looking for a third non AN product to try. I run Vegetables in 3 different NFT systems all in the same tent, so i'm going to run some tests this summer under 1000w.
 
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