Lets Stop Immigration To Help Eliminate Unemployment And Raise The Standard Of Living

Filthy Phil

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Well duke, while I agree with your stance on this situation, from what I have seen it doesnt seem that beardo wants to shut off immigration because he has issues with the immigrants as much as he would prefer to see our limited resources focussed toward our citizens instead of continuing to bring in more people to thin the resources out.

Is that accurate beardo?

And again, this thread isnt so much about whether beardo is or is not a racist, but about immigration. Him and I disagree, but lets allow him to be who he wants and just bring reasoning against his argument.
 

NoDrama

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Well duke, while I agree with your stance on this situation, from what I have seen it doesnt seem that beardo wants to shut off immigration because he has issues with the immigrants as much as he would prefer to see our limited resources focussed toward our citizens instead of continuing to bring in more people to thin the resources out.

Is that accurate beardo?

And again, this thread isnt so much about whether beardo is or is not a racist, but about immigration. Him and I disagree, but lets allow him to be who he wants and just bring reasoning against his argument.
Duke doesn't have one ounce of reason in him, he can only make unfounded accusations over and over and over and hope they stick. I actually think Duke is a student of the Goebbels school of psychological manipulation. Tell a lie often enough and stupid people come to believe it.
 

Filthy Phil

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Duke doesn't have one ounce of reason in him, he can only make unfounded accusations over and over and over and hope they stick. I actually think Duke is a student of the Goebbels school of psychological manipulation. Tell a lie often enough and stupid people come to believe it.
No...i dont think that is true either. I have seen duke bring some interesting points to the table...

And also, I think both sides think the other side say lies enough to make it the truth.
 

dukeanthony

New Member
Duke doesn't have one ounce of reason in him, he can only make unfounded accusations over and over and over and hope they stick. I actually think Duke is a student of the Goebbels school of psychological manipulation. Tell a lie often enough and stupid people come to believe it.

Beardo has already said "Hitler was a good man who was misunderstood"
and you can check out my sig for one of his many defenses of Klan leader David Duke
 

beardo

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Beardo has already said "Hitler was a good man who was misunderstood"
and you can check out my sig for one of his many defenses of Klan leader David Duke
Your reading comprehension and retension really sucks- You are lying or you are unable to read or unable to understand what your reading - I never said that and never wrote that.
I did say Hitler is misunderstood a fact you illistrate very well with your total lack of understanding of how he rose to power and how he was able to have done what was done.
 

LT1RX7 Drifter

Active Member
I am a white american who has worked in the ag industry as a young boy, i am now 33, wages have not gotten any better, ask me how i know? i recently picked apples in washington with my white female cousin who never in her life been on a ladder let alone pick apples, yes the work is hard in the field..... for some...yes i pick as many bins a day as a seasoned immigrant picker, and she had no problem picking. Yes amercans have gotten lazy, heres the thing make the wages and benefits worth the time of us citizens to work in the ag industry and they will return to the fields, american dollars should stay on american soil, not a citizen no work period, no work visa's nothing, get caught sneaking over any us boarder you should be shot on site and body left for would-be-illegals to turn back.....cheaper then deporting. American need to take back control of there own damn country, if you think any different then maybe you should move else were and then maybe you will see that preserving what once was america is actually something important. I not saying you cant come here and apply for citizenship, anyone can apply for that anywere
 

Mindmelted

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I am a white american who has worked in the ag industry as a young boy, i am now 33, wages have not gotten any better, ask me how i know? i recently picked apples in washington with my white female cousin who never in her life been on a ladder let alone pick apples, yes the work is hard in the field..... for some...yes i pick as many bins a day as a seasoned immigrant picker, and she had no problem picking. Yes amercans have gotten lazy, heres the thing make the wages and benefits worth the time of us citizens to work in the ag industry and they will return to the fields, american dollars should stay on american soil, not a citizen no work period, no work visa's nothing, get caught sneaking over any us boarder you should be shot on site and body left for would-be-illegals to turn back.....cheaper then deporting. American need to take back control of there own damn country, if you think any different then maybe you should move else were and then maybe you will see that preserving what once was america is actually something important. I not saying you cant come here and apply for citizenship, anyone can apply for that anywere
Duke of puke is now going to call you a racist/homophobe and xenophobe.
Like the piece of shit usally does.
 

LT1RX7 Drifter

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and for what its worth here is the wage break down in washington for aple pickers, pay-out is standardized to eliminate worker cornering
wages are paid by piece not by the hour, so whom ever stated wages in the mid to low teens is high on crack, formen dont make more then 14 and they are paid hourly with zero benefits
15$ a bin for red delicious
20$ a bin for golden
22$ a bin for fuji, bradburen, pink lady
a bin takes a good picker 1.5-1.75 hrs
i pick 5 bins a day, a adverage picker will pick 4
so you do the math after taxes and with holding you see your not making much 99% of the reason Us citizens dont work the fields
 

LT1RX7 Drifter

Active Member
Duke of puke is now going to call you a racist/homophobe and xenophobe.
Like the piece of shit usally does.
so..... its america he can blurt what evr he likes i stated my piece thats it AND for the record i hate everyone equally so racist is out the window, and i have 3 wonderful buys so yah maybe you could get away with calling me a homophobe lol, as for being a xenophobe thats out the window as i served in the military and have seen the world over ( not entirely) see and interacted with many cultures and ethnisityies
 

hazorazo

New Member
and for what its worth here is the wage break down in washington for aple pickers, pay-out is standardized to eliminate worker cornering
wages are paid by piece not by the hour, so whom ever stated wages in the mid to low teens is high on crack, formen dont make more then 14 and they are paid hourly with zero benefits
15$ a bin for red delicious
20$ a bin for golden
22$ a bin for fuji, bradburen, pink lady
a bin takes a good picker 1.5-1.75 hrs
i pick 5 bins a day, a adverage picker will pick 4
so you do the math after taxes and with holding you see your not making much 99% of the reason Us citizens dont work the fields
And it is hard fucking work in the fields. Especially when compared to pumping gas or any other minimum wage job. I must say I do not like your idea about shooting people at the borders, but at least you have some practical experience in the field, and you were able to prove that Beardo was wrong about a ton of white people in the fields, and also prove he was wrong about the wages he ASSUMED they made. He truly was on crack with his ideas. This is why I think a lot of people fighting immigration have their roots in racism.....he has shown himself to be too smart to actually believe his crap, so he must have another agenda.....me thinks he is a racist.
 

dukeanthony

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Your reading comprehension and retension really sucks- You are lying or you are unable to read or unable to understand what your reading - I never said that and never wrote that.
I did say Hitler is misunderstood a fact you illistrate very well with your total lack of understanding of how he rose to power and how he was able to have done what was done.
Too late for you to edit the post when i get home i will dig it up. Its only been about 4 days since you said it. I wanted to put it in my sig but i guess it violates some 3 line rule or something.
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beardo

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And it is hard fucking work in the fields. Especially when compared to pumping gas or any other minimum wage job. I must say I do not like your idea about shooting people at the borders, but at least you have some practical experience in the field, and you were able to prove that Beardo was wrong about a ton of white people in the fields, and also prove he was wrong about the wages he ASSUMED they made. He truly was on crack with his ideas. This is why I think a lot of people fighting immigration have their roots in racism.....he has shown himself to be too smart to actually believe his crap, so he must have another agenda.....me thinks he is a racist.
Again you fail,
you would think with all the education you brag about you would be able to read and comprehend what you are reading- Maybe you can and you would rather lie because your argument has no merrit, or maybe you are truly unable to understand a point of view that differs from your own.
Justs because you say something does not make it true- as you so clearly illistrate
 

LT1RX7 Drifter

Active Member
And it is hard fucking work in the fields. Especially when compared to pumping gas or any other minimum wage job. I must say I do not like your idea about shooting people at the borders, but at least you have some practical experience in the field, and you were able to prove that Beardo was wrong about a ton of white people in the fields, and also prove he was wrong about the wages he ASSUMED they made. He truly was on crack with his ideas. This is why I think a lot of people fighting immigration have their roots in racism.....he has shown himself to be too smart to actually believe his crap, so he must have another agenda.....me thinks he is a racist.
do you have any clue how much it cost the tax payers to deport one illegal as much as 50k multiply that by the hundreds if not thousands deported daily, a bullet cost less then a dollar, and for the record i actually side with beardo, your just to slow to see it.......
 

beardo

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Too late for you to edit the post when i get home i will dig it up.
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No you won't because it doesn't exist- you lied again or failed at reading again either way it's not what was said.
I know the post your talking about, and as I stated, It says he is misunderstood- not that he was a "good guy"
 

dukeanthony

New Member
No you won't because it doesn't exist- you lied again or failed at reading again either way it's not what was said.
I know the post your talking about, and as I stated, It says he is misunderstood- not that he was a "good guy"
Found it. Also found the post you made dimi.ishing the inscription on the statue pf liberty because "its from a poem written by a jewish lady"
 

Filthy Phil

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Ok, so heres a question : would companies go under if they couldnt hire illegals to work for them?
Would cutting off immigration raise the price of domestic goods to an unjustifiable level?
 

beardo

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Ok, so heres a question : would companies go under if they couldnt hire illegals to work for them?
Would cutting off immigration raise the price of domestic goods to an unjustifiable level?
Yes some companies would go under, others would prosper.
yes it would raise prices- at least without further govt interference, which I am against.
No it would not raise prices to "unjustifiable levels. I think prices are currently at "unjustifiable levels"
 

MuyLocoNC

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Found it. Also found the post you made dimi.ishing the inscription on the statue pf liberty because "its from a poem written by a jewish lady"
So where are they? Put a link to them and we can see for ourselves. Why would you post you found them and then not provide anything?
 
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