Help me choose

[Undercover Cop]

so what u guys do? just go around kissing ass? wheres that got u? .................... not kissing ass has definately hurt me in the long run no doubt theres been plenty of cases in my life where a lil ass kissing and doors open ........but im a man i stand on my 2 feet if others dont like that they can blow me i got my pride still........do u?......and are u calling me a horses ass?

I would say being a man means knowing what you need and knowing what it takes to get there, and being humble enough to realize you're not king of the world and that there are circumstances where being polite can go along way. I wouldnt suggest to bow down to the average jerk on the coner, but putting a little self-awareness and humility in your personality will definately pay off in the long run.

I'd be willing to bet you're into iabit more than just herb, you seem a little aggitated. Not typical of a pothead. Most potheads just stay at home and watch Family Guy, they're not out pissing off the cops to the point that they're all assholes. Just a guess, but tell me Im wrong.

You played high school football, huh? just another guess, tell me Im wrong.

 

[Dont Fear The Reefer]

nobody called anyone a horses ass, but hey if the foo shits wear it...
This is all you need to know and you said it " not kissing ass has definately hurt me in the long run no doubt theres been plenty of cases in my life where a lil ass kissing and doors open"

end of story

 

[Min8040]

wow that was useful, thanks for taking the time to tell me that you dont know by being a dick

Sorry mate, didn`t mean to get you fired up. Just wanted to add a little spark so others would respond and give thier input/advice.
Thats all.

 

[hopeyougotadutch]

Well I don't think ALL cops are pricks. I just assume they are until they show me different. Now undercover cops, state bulls...99% of the time, they ARE pricks. Ass kissing should be done at work if need be, if it's a good job you want to advance in.

As for the blend of spectrum, personally don't know too much about it, there are several things you can read though.

I want to fuck that chick in your avatar min8040. Sorry (not really) if that was out of line.

 

[hopeyougotadutch]

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/9582-marijuana-light-spectrum.html

Here's a thread that may help.

 

[Undercover Cop]

Sorry mate, didn`t mean to get you fired up. Just wanted to add a little spark so others would respond and give thier input/advice.
Thats all.

pretty snotty way to say it then... "go use your search button"??? thats what this site is for, a community to ask questions and give advise. Go somewhere else if you're not gonna contribute. You dont need to "spark others" to give advise if you're not offering any yourself. Not fired up, just my first thread to ask a question here after offering advise to lots of other growers, and the first response is to go use my search button. nice

 

[hopeyougotadutch]

pretty snotty way to say it then... "go use your search button"??? thats what this site is for, a community to ask questions and give advise. Go somewhere else if you're not gonna contribute. You dont need to "spark others" to give advise if you're not offering any yourself. Not fired up, just my first thread to ask a question here after offering advise to lots of other growers, and the first response is to go use my search button. nice

Well to be fair, you honestly didn't think anyone was going to be sketchy about somebody with a username like "Undercover Cop"? Then you go on sounding a little eager to defend cops. And, instead of starting an argument, why not say something like "you got a link?". I'm sure min was kidding like you are with that username??

I know you took the search button suggestion the wrong way, but it was not a bad suggestion. I use it constantly, for everything.

So, lets find out the answer to your question???

 

[missnu]

Ok...I'm just going to disregard that whole weirdo argument thing and add that i think doing a spectrum of lights would be better throughout all cycles with a concentration of the needed spectrum at the right times, it just makes sense when you think about it...So I would just try it if I were you...on either the seedlings or the early veg plants...but I would probably go with adding it to the early veg as opposed to the seedlings, I don't really have a valid reason for choosing that...just makes sense to me.

 

[Undercover Cop]

Ok...I'm just going to disregard that whole weirdo argument thing and add that i think doing a spectrum of lights would be better throughout all cycles with a concentration of the needed spectrum at the right times, it just makes sense when you think about it...So I would just try it if I were you...on either the seedlings or the early veg plants...but I would probably go with adding it to the early veg as opposed to the seedlings, I don't really have a valid reason for choosing that...just makes sense to me.

Thats exactly what I was thinking, I figure start em out under pure 6500k to give em a nice short squatty bushy base, then switch to a blended spectrum for agressive veg, since the 2700k will encourage faster growth but can cause stretching. I figure if they're gonna stretch a little it might as well be on a good base with good branching.

Thanks for actually giving good advise (after 3 pages of bickering with idiots). I know all about using 6500k for veg and 2700k for flower and the benefits of blending at diff times, I just wondered if one stage may benefit more, I have 10 6500k bulbs and 2 2700k for veg. was wondering which fixture should get the two 2700k's.

I was thinking the exact same, here's my set up with the seedlings on the right side and more mature on left w/ blended lighting

 

[Undercover Cop]

Well to be fair, you honestly didn't think anyone was going to be sketchy about somebody with a username like "Undercover Cop"? Then you go on sounding a little eager to defend cops. And, instead of starting an argument, why not say something like "you got a link?". I'm sure min was kidding like you are with that username??

I know you took the search button suggestion the wrong way, but it was not a bad suggestion. I use it constantly, for everything.

So, lets find out the answer to your question???

Someone sure as hell didnt read the whole post. I never said a word about defending cops anywhere, I replied to the idiot who contributed to my thread by stating how he hates cops, saying Im sure they love him, Then he starts spouting off about kissing ass and not being a man so I suggested he enjoy a hug... I never started arguing with anyone, until wayno30 hijacked my thread with his aggro bullshit. The first time I ask for advise from anyone here and I get 3 pages of childish arguments. Then Min8040 apologizes for firing me up, when i had given him a one line reply on the first page and was done with that. Start an argument on my own thread? When would I ask "you got a link" ??? after the first asshole tells me go use my search button? or after the other idiot tells me he hates cops... uh, got a link?

go bother someone else in the Toke n Talk forum

If you actually have thoughts on using blended spectrums at different times during Veg and Flower, and have experience using diff spectrums... please post and share your knowledge. If you're sketchy about my name take a second to read my journal (my signature) or my profile.

I feel dumber now haven taken the time to reply to children here

 

[Dont Fear The Reefer]

Excellent, I wounted want to be the next perp. you catch!....I like the idea of blended spectrum to mimic how nature does it.

 

[hopeyougotadutch]

Someone sure as hell didnt read the whole post. I never said a word about defending cops anywhere, I replied to the idiot who contributed to my thread by stating how he hates cops, saying Im sure they love him, Then he starts spouting off about kissing ass and not being a man so I suggested he enjoy a hug... I never started arguing with anyone, until wayno30 hijacked my thread with his aggro bullshit. The first time I ask for advise from anyone here and I get 3 pages of childish arguments. Then Min8040 apologizes for firing me up, when i had given him a one line reply on the first page and was done with that. Start an argument on my own thread? When would I ask "you got a link" ??? after the first asshole tells me go use my search button? or after the other idiot tells me he hates cops... uh, got a link?

go bother someone else in the Toke n Talk forum

If you actually have thoughts on using blended spectrums at different times during Veg and Flower, and have experience using diff spectrums... please post and share your knowledge. If you're sketchy about my name take a second to read my journal (my signature) or my profile.

I feel dumber now haven taken the time to reply to children here

I read the whole post, sir. It was you who did not read carefully enough to understand MY post. I said things like "SOUNDING like your eager to defend cops", and you said multiple things that could have thrown other people. I saw your name and thought it was funny, but you're not funny. I wasn't 100% sure about the answer to your question so I posted a link to a thread that I thought may have contained some info you were looking for. Also said, "So, lets find out the answer to your question???", did you reply to say anything to me about either, no.

"....idiot tells me he hates cops... uh, got a link?", I'm the child? I voiced my opinion and got on with it, I wasn't here to argue. Would YOU like to be talked to like a child?! Nice one.

Off to "bother" someone in Toke n' Talk.

 

[Undercover Cop]

And you got the last word, sweet. now on with the thread...

Anyone else with thoughts on the topic? wondering things like "should I use daylight bulbs in my flowering box more heavily during final flowering, or when first switching to 12/12?" ... "Is it specifically beneficial to seedlings to use a blended daylight spectrum? vs pure 6500k?" I know there are plenty of threads about blending spectrums and the noob threads about making sure to use daylight for veg and more orange during flowering. I understand the general recommendation to mix in a 2700k bulb here and there during veg, in a 4:1 or 3:1 ratio, and the opposite during flowering. Im looking for more specifics I guess. Or for some first hand experience, if you've used different lighting in the same set-up and what you got? ... please and thanks for contributing

 

[wayno30]

sounds like you got a plan............. im vegging a lil baby clone right now under a 2700 23 watt i took the top out of it a few days after it rooted and started to grow i bent it over and taped a leaf to the pot at the same time ..........

 

[Undercover Cop]

sounds like you got a plan............. im vegging a lil baby clone right now under a 2700 23 watt i took the top out of it a few days after it rooted and started to grow i bent it over and taped a leaf to the pot at the same time ..........

Do you notice any stretching using the 2700k? Ive never vegged under pure 2700K before or HPS during veg (roughly 2100k) simply cuz Ive heard a few places that the orange light will cause faster growth but it will be stretchy and have longer distance between internodes. I have a few that ive grown under pure 6500k until only recently when I added a little 2700k to blend. They're under 6" but have 8-9 internodes and full 9 point leafs. I just topped em less than 48 hrs ago and they've already started branching out. When I used to grow, I didnt know about the different temps of light and just used plain old white, prob 4000k or 5000k (fluoros) I always had really spindly tall stretchy plants, and now with the right light they are short but bushy as hell with a stem as thick as my pinky finger. Ive never done it myself so Im just curious about your internode distance, and how old it is?

 

[Min8040]

Min8040 asshole? I don`t think so. Its Mr Asshole to you Farkweed.... Lighten the fark up ya snotnose.

 

[chiefchuckles]

Honestly, at first I used a blended spectrum for my flowering (to cut down on the supposed stretching) and eventually heard that all 2700 would be better for flowering. IN THE END, I swapped over to all 2700's and well, the buds are expanding......I say fuck the theory of putting in some daylights, my buds enjoy the 2700's better, and are barely stretching.

(You can even see the results in my link below)

Enjoy your growing experience, sorry you got "search bar"ed right off the bat, but dont worry.....it happened to me too.

 

[Undercover Cop]

Honestly, at first I used a blended spectrum for my flowering (to cut down on the supposed stretching) and eventually heard that all 2700 would be better for flowering. IN THE END, I swapped over to all 2700's and well, the buds are expanding......I say fuck the theory of putting in some daylights, my buds enjoy the 2700's better, and are barely stretching.

(You can even see the results in my link below)

Enjoy your growing experience, sorry you got "search bar"ed right off the bat, but dont worry.....it happened to me too.

For flowering I have a 400w hps, but Im gonna supplement it using my 4x48 T5 using actinic and specific wavelength tubes. I dont remember the exact tubes I have but Im gonna use alot of the advise from this thread for flowering ---> https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/358190-led-without-leds-my-first.html ... excellent info here.

 

[Bluejeans]

I'm certainly no expert on the matter, but my understanding of full spectrum lights is that they provide BOTH the red and the blue spectrum needed by the plants (plus all the other numbers in between). I personally would put the 2 2700k on the older plants. I just switched from veg to flower this weekend and I'm doing all CFL's (the whole grow).

I mixed my spectrums for the veg state (because I used what I had on hand) and I really can't complain. My plants grew fast and furious. I have 8 plants and 19 CFL's. For vegging, my mix was:

4 - 300w (68w) 2700k
5 - 100w (27w) 6500k (full spectrum)
5 - 100w (27w) 5000k
4 - 100w (26w) 2700k
1 - 150w (42w) 2700k

When I switched to flower, I switched the 5 - 5000k bulbs to 5 more 2700k and left the rest. So as of today, I have 14 2700k bulbs and 5 6500k full spectrum bulbs. You can look at my journal to see pics.

Hope that helps! (and your name doesn't bug me at all. I'm legal in my state!)

 

[potpimp]

I *think* a 70/30 mix would work well. During the summer it's not pure "blue" and during the fall it's not pure "red". I know the charts show the peak absorption and response to certain wavelengths of light, but that's not to say that some of the rest is not a good thing.