Going to see Dr. Sulak on 26th - Thoughts on My Eligibility?

mdanforth

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yes if shes has his caregiver designation form with her she will be fine and wouldn't have to answer where the meds came from anyway.....
 

tet1953

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Ok, but would that preclude his having an additional, growing caregiver? My reading of the new law has the stuff about more than one caregiver removed.
 

maineyankee

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So let me try to get this right ....

In February 0f 2012, I get recertified by my Doctor. I can ask him for 2 designation scrip / card(s) one for wifey (Transport Only), and one for me ? MMM ... sounds kind of like in a gray area, and I just re-read the latest Maine law (LD 1296). The reason for my wanting to know is that I have my meds on board my person at all times, and there have been a few occassions when I have been directly admitted to the hospital. They know that I carry a pipe and MMJ, for I will never be a "closet smoker", and therefore want the MMJ and pipe off site. ( Trust me it has happened as recent as Sept. 5th ) ... Since I have been admitted, she cannot legally transport my meds home which is appx 1 mile away. Also, there may be a time when she will have to pick up my meds down south, but that scenario is almost nil as I write this post :-)

The bottom line is that something, if not already on the law books, must be addressed and hopefully written into "Plain Language" law concerning LD - 1926 and the effects and transportation from a spousal view. Do they have to be legally married ? Live -In ?

The questions are so very numerous as I delve more into this whole Medical Marijuana scenario. I have never shot from the hip when I tell someone about becoming a patient using MMJ as "Their Med of Choice" ... I would rather not say anything, than to tell someone that I am not at least 90% sure of it.

Love and Peace

The MaineYankee
 

tet1953

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I don't know that anyone here is "shooting from the hip", but just having a somewhat academic discussion of the legal aspects of the new law. There are lots of opinions and interpretations on it, sure. Even the state is likely less than 100% sure of what it all means, but they are the final say at the moment. There are a few things that will probably have to be clarified in the legislature or the courts. In the meantime, if you want a definitieve answer on who can do what I suggest a call to John Theile at DHS.
 

cerberus

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as i understand it, they have to be family, married, children brother sister, yada-yada. they have to live in the same household. So for your case, if your wife had your card/form and (be extra cautious your license too) and her license, to prove the addresses match up then she should be completely fine. there is a caregiver form for non-growing caregivers (which doesn't cost the 300) and you could have her apply for that too. But the state law does not require state registration so getting her non-growing caregiver card is an option.

and yes, lots of grey area and lots of uncertainty in this market right now..

good luck


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tet: exactly! you want a real definitive answer to some of these questions, you gonna need a judge.. and two lawyers... and some "defendant" its how our legal system works. voters vote in a law, state legislators try to implement it best they can and finally courts rule on it legality..
 

maineyankee

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I don't know that anyone here is "shooting from the hip", but just having a somewhat academic discussion of the legal aspects of the new law. There are lots of opinions and interpretations on it, sure. Even the state is likely less than 100% sure of what it all means, but they are the final say at the moment. There are a few things that will probably have to be clarified in the legislature or the courts. In the meantime, if you want a definitieve answer on who can do what I suggest a call to John Theile at DHS.
When I referenced the term "shooting from the hip" ... I meant when I take MY knowledge of MMJ and all that it entails, and speak to someone who may be interested in becoming a patient/caregiver. It has nothing to do with what is discussed here as I respect and really admire all things that everyone has to say. Bottom line ... "If I do not know the answer, I won't say anything about it". :-)

I really think your last statement is the very best and one that I have always used ... If one has a question, go to the leader for the answer :-)

Great Post Tet :-)

The MaineYankee
 

Maine Brookies

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I agree that calling John Thiele is the best way to go. I'd like to point out that there must be some kind of exception in Maine law that allows spouses to possess prescribed controlled medications as both my wife and i have picked up painkillers (Scheduie II painkillers, even) for the other post-surgery. I wonder if that exception carries over to MMJ? Probably not, but i would be something to look at changing going forward.
 

tet1953

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I agree that calling John Thiele is the best way to go. I'd like to point out that there must be some kind of exception in Maine law that allows spouses to possess prescribed controlled medications as both my wife and i have picked up painkillers (Scheduie II painkillers, even) for the other post-surgery. I wonder if that exception carries over to MMJ? Probably not, but i would be something to look at changing going forward.
I doubt that it would. MMJ is a different animal altogether. Plus, it isn't really a prescription.
 

mdanforth

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I wouldn't call Thiele and ask him anything, I know for a fact he has given out incorrect and unlawful advice......call Greg Braun and ask him.....
 

corners

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Thank you Tet. Wow. Only state I have found that doesn't require the caregiver to also be a patient. It is vehemently required in the other states.
They do a back ground check though, not sure for what, or if everything is disqualifying. Probably no felons, drug charges,weapons or domestic violence stuff.
 

tet1953

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They do a back ground check though, not sure for what, or if everything is disqualifying. Probably no felons, drug charges,weapons or domestic violence stuff.
I have a patient cert and two caregiver cards. I have never had the background check or paid the extra $ for it.
 

Maine Brookies

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I have a patient cert and two caregiver cards. I have never had the background check or paid the extra $ for it.
The checkbox (I have enclosed $31 for criminal background check) is on the application still. Did you check no and still get approved?
 

Maine Brookies

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Interesting. You only paid $600 for the two caregiver slots?

I also learned that the caregiver form has a section allowing you to pay a fee to have a second person assist you with growing.
 

tet1953

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That's correct. However, they were both obtained under the law pre-1296. I have recently recertified with Dr. Sulak for myself (my orig was another doc and expires in Dec) and I don't intend to reregister as a patient.
 

maineyankee

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Question .... My card expires in February of '12. My primary care doctor (as well as urologist doctor) both submitted the paperwork to the State last February. Now that I am growing, I surely will need a grower authorization ( I still love the cards more than the paper type, so will ask the State for that type), as well as a card for my wife who is my caregiver of sorts. (In case of transporting and growing I assume).

How do I go about getting re-certified in this case? I assume I will go to my primary, have him give me the paper type, and then go to the State and get a grow card, as well as a Caregiver card for my spouse. How much money will I have to spend for this to happen ?

Thanks in advance,
MaineYankee :-)
 
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