So...Spots and a little yellowing

Finshaggy

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Ok, these plants are getting good nutes, are in pretty good soil, and have plenty of light.

But I looked at a chart, and they seem to have a potassium, or manganese deficiency. Is it just nute burn, or do I need more nutes, or what? Here's some pics :)
Yellow leaves at the bottom are from stunting their growth while waiting for bigger lights to be available for veg.

I'm talking about the brown spots on the big leaf, and the slight yellowing around the edges of EVERY green leaf. And the tips of some are browning :(
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goten

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calmag def

im going through the same shit right now with my dwc grow

also you said getting good nutes and in pretty good soil ,

you need to take in consideration that your pretty good soil has nutes in it also and your also giving nutes so you could possibly be burning them by giving to much nutes

Id flush and cut the nutes that your giving down to 1/2 strength maybe even 1/4 strength and see how see does since your plant is getting nutes from your soil also
 

Filthy Phil

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Potassium like you said. I dont know why everyone confuses potassium for calcium and magnesium....your soil is acidic ill bet, notice all the pieces of wood in the soil, as it breaks down it lowers ph...i doubt that theres no potassium.available, probably just your ph. Whats your runoff ph?
 

Finshaggy

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calmag def

im going through the same shit right now with my dwc grow

also you said getting good nutes and in pretty good soil ,

you need to take in consideration that your pretty good soil has nutes in it also and your also giving nutes so you could possibly be burning them by giving to much nutes

Id flush and cut the nutes that your giving down to 1/2 strength maybe even 1/4 strength and see how see does since your plant is getting nutes from your soil also
Ok, I'll just do straigh waater for a couple days to a week :)
Then start back up the nute regimen.

Not only is it okay soil with good nutes. BOTH are new. Just got transplanted, and just bought these nutes. :)
 

Finshaggy

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Potassium like you said. I dont know why everyone confuses potassium for calcium and magnesium....your soil is acidic ill bet, notice all the pieces of wood in the soil, as it breaks down it lowers ph...i doubt that theres no potassium.available, probably just your ph. Whats your runoff ph?
No Ph tester, and no money for one right now :(

Gotta wait for my bank to send my account closing check,
OR wait till I start up glass blowing, to start making money.
 

goten

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Not potassium , it is calmag , and possibly some nute burn

yes people do get the 2 mixed up but not in this case

This is

- Potassium deficiency (K).
Older leaves are initially chlorotic but soon develop dark necrotic lesions (dead tissue). First apparent on the tips and margins of the leaves. Stem and branches may become weak and easily broken, the plant may also stretch. The plant will become susceptible to disease and toxicity. In addition to appearing to look like iron deficiency, the tips of the leaves curl and the edges burn and die.
 

Filthy Phil

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No Ph tester, and no money for one right now :(

Gotta wait for my bank to send my account closing check,
OR wait till I start up glass blowing, to start making money.
Well then cash in you nickles dimes and quaters and buy a 10 dollar liquid dropper ph test kit. You will DEFFINATELY make the 10 dollars back. And giving water for a few days is not the same as flushing.
 

Finshaggy

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Well then cash in you nickles dimes and quaters and buy a 10 dollar liquid dropper ph test kit. You will DEFFINATELY make the 10 dollars back. And giving water for a few days is not the same as flushing.
I know. But the way I water, and with the amount of light I've got (Helping it drink, so I can do fat waterings once a day), it'll flush all the nutes to the bottom, or into the dish. Saving them for when the roots get WAAYY longer.

I don't even have ten dollars right now, unless that bank check comes in. That's my whole account. And they don't have a branch in my state.

Glass blowing will be by christmas though, and this is a hardy ass strain, it should be able to survive till then. It survived the whole time with no Ph tester last time, and that was my 1st indoor, and nuting EVER.
 

nick17gar

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whats the pH? if the soil is good, they are too small to be showing any deficiency other than nitrogen really. so pH lockout is a real possibility.

if pH is ok, then yea nitrogen, calcium, magnesium, manganese deficiencies, and if thats the case, your soil sucks.
 

Finshaggy

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whats the pH? if the soil is good, they are too small to be showing any deficiency other than nitrogen really. so pH lockout is a real possibility.

if pH is ok, then yea nitrogen, calcium, magnesium, manganese deficiencies, and if thats the case, your soil sucks.
This exact same soil, AND water Ph worked for the exact same plants last time. But they were yellow as babies. I got real nutes, but have been trying to undernute to be safe, BUT nute EVERY day. Maybe they are just undernuted for the amount of stretching and leaf growing they are growing. They went from about 60W to 700W in 1 day, then red cups to 3 gallon pots less than a week later. :)





SOOOOO

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Should I be trying to get the soil clean?
Or should I be nuting more?


It's Organic MG. So it should work fine it did last time, when they got 200W they were doing pretty well in MG organic with NO nutes.
 

goten

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Dont give more nutes my man

Use reg ph water the next time you water then the next time you water after that use 1/2 strength

Your plant is still young and the roots still have plenty of room to grow and theirs no need for multiple flushing

Just once or twice and you will be good then start with 1/2 strength my man

My 2 pennies anyway
 

Filthy Phil

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I like it how someone comes on asking for advice, people more experienced give advice, then noob explains how you're wrong.or argues with the advice.

No, the soil is good, heres how watering with water is the same as flushing, I dont really need a ph meter, i'm doing it all right, but still have problems....why?
 

Finshaggy

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I like it how someone comes on asking for advice, people more experienced give advice, then noob explains how you're wrong.or argues with the advice.

No, the soil is good, heres how watering with water is the same as flushing, I dont really need a ph meter, i'm doing it all right, but still have problems....why?
Because what he is saying makes sense with any chart you read.

But at the same time, I didn't just accept his advice as fact, I asked if it changed anyone else's opinion. or if anyone wanted to say soething else along those lines. I didn't say "Thanks you're right".

And also, how are you "mr ganja" and only experienced a little?
This is only my second INDOOR grow. By a creek, I didn't have to do shit but water it every couple days, so I'm not very experience indoor, or with growing techniques in general BUT:
I've blazed since I was 14, Was a Collie Man from the next year on, I was in multiple facilities where I was forced to watch videos that talk about the science of drugs (anti-drug stuff), I've had legal experience due to Marijuana over and OVER since I was 14, I've had multiple court ordered psychologists and psychiatrists that I can reference, and have been on any medications that I can compare the effects of, I have a pretty good wealth of trip experience, Shiva is my god, my father, myself, my future, and my past, I've traveled and tried weed from many different states, I know how to make lots of different hash, I am in the midst of grassrooting some weed activism, I have an open misdemeanor trial in Tx that can stir up, or blow the top off weed politics in Tx (with the right direction), and more... :)
 
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