Politics of hate, Murder and Thievery

[vh13]

Wrong.

Oh yeah, you proved me wrong there... what a compelling argument... just because eh?

Why do so many people feel entitled to what hasn't happened to them, but their ancestors? History is history, you learn from it and move the fuck on.

Exactly, move forward, and learn from history, or else become a consequence of it.

You're denial only demonstrates ignorance. Your promotion only continues in the next quote block....

You're the one in denial, buddy. You deny the right of Israel to exist. Do you think it's 1966 right now?

Let me ask you something, do you deny the right of Pakistan to exist? Do you deny the right of the US, or Chinese governments to exist? Why single out the Jews?

None of you have answered that question, I"m sure because it proves your guilt as racists.

I've read many of you complain about "the Jewish problem" in other threads over and again. Why do none of you go out and fight the good fight for Tibet? or the Kurds? or the Sudanese?

Almost every nation on Earth was born in bloodshed, why then do you single out Israel and say only it should not exist?

Does this mean "your people" (I have a problem with this statement, but that's for another argument) are suddenly entitled to not only commit genocide against the Palistinians, but to forcible remove them from their home, call it your home, and isolate them in ghettos within the gaza strip and the west bank? Oh yes, that bold word was used intentionally.

Hypocrites will never carry sympathy from me.....

I know that being American means I can and will be persecuted in other places around the world. What does that have to do with anything? It does not change my mind that genocide is wrong and committing genocide in order to retribute genocide is also wrong. I will never support a nation that commits genocide, or a politician who supports them. However, you insist on people making exceptions to that rule. You act just like the politicians in softening the situation by calling it "very aggressive behavior."

More lies. I never condoned the actions of Israel, I only recognize its right to exist. Criticize her actions all you want, but to deny her right to exist is abhorrent.

But be fair in your criticism. If you were to compare Israel's actions to those of the American's towards the Japanese during WWII, that would be a fairer comparison, though in truth Israel is more aggressive, but then again the Japanese Americans didn't suicide bomb the Americans.

Comparing Jews to Hitler is fallacious, and if you can't acknowledge that, then clearly you are a racist.

The only way Israel will recieve my support is if they support an independent Palistinian government.

I agree with this statement. Maybe if you weren't such an antisemite you'd have learned that about me, instead of assuming incorrectly about my opinions.

I understand why you wrongfully assumed such about me, you suspected I'm a Jew, and your racist views corrupted your thinking.

I'm not a Jew, I'm an anti-Catholic, and I think the Vatican shouldn't exist. I disagree with how the Catholic church was created, and because it has committed wrongs, I think it should be torn apart and it's peoples persecuted.

 

[dukeanthony]

Jews are cool
Zionists suck ass
And Israels policys are imperial genocidal and bigoted

 

[vh13]

I gotta call you out on this bullshit, you can't find a nation that is exclusively white anywhere on the planet, all formerly white nations now suffer under the rule of mandated multiculturalism.

Oh right... mandated multiculturalism... mandated by who? Enforced by who? Sounds like anti-globalization propaganda to me.

You don't travel much, or look at the world around you, do you? Not every nation is like France, or Great Britain, or the USA.

Oh yeah? Where are these exclusive Christian nations?

There are 16 sovereign nations that have Christianity as the state religion.

What is it in your mind that you think any persecuted group in this world shouldn't?

So because you feel the Jews as a whole have been persecuted, you feel that they should have special rights not afforded to the rest of humanity, how very kind of you, thank you master.

Your implication is a fallacy. The Jews having a place of their own does nothing to keep other groups from creating their own nation state.

Why don't you answer my question? Because it proves you're a racist?

 

[vh13]

Jews are cool
Zionists suck ass

So Jews are cool... until they want the same rights as every other nation... then they suck ass, eh?

And Israels policys are imperial genocidal and bigoted

True, except the word genocide is overstated.

Ya'll keep throwing the word around like it has no meaning. You forget Israel is in a fight for her life, she is taking strong policies to defend herself. She has no intentions of sweeping across the middle east and wiping out whole peoples, which is what many here are claiming. Israel had her chance to occupy more of the middle east when she defeated her attackers in the Six Day war... and most of that land was given back! The Jews don't want to conquer or take, they only want a place for themselves.

 

[dukeanthony]

I've yet to meet someone who is not both. =\

You don't think he's a racist?

I have no problem with jews
zionists suck and so does israels policys
Rabin had the country going in the right direction

 

[vh13]

I have no problem with jews
zionists suck and so does israels policys
Rabin had the country going in the right direction

So you disagree with Israel's current policies, but recognize Israel's right to exist? If so, then you are a Zionist.

 

[Airwave]

Zionists are scum, vh13 thinks that Jews are entitled to special privileges that the rest of the world doesn't get, and I'll have sympathy for the Palestinians when they stop blowing up buses filled with innocent people.

 

[vh13]

Zionists are scum, vh13 thinks that Jews are entitled to special privileges that the rest of the world doesn't get...

Liar. When did I ever state such?

This is what I think:

What is it in your mind that you think any persecuted group in this world shouldn't [have a place of their own]?

Your implication is a fallacy. The Jews having a place of their own does nothing to keep other groups from creating their own nation state.

Israel should be afforded the same rights as every other nation state. Other cultures seeking independent sovereignty should be afforded those same rights as well. If you disagree, then you are an antisemitic racist.

Should Armenia be disbanded? Should Pakistan be disbanded? Should the USA be disbanded? So why then Israel?

I notice all the racists are deaf to this question.

...and I'll have sympathy for the Palestinians when they stop blowing up buses filled with innocent people.

Well, I do have sympathy for the Palestinians. Why am I the one who is scum when it's you who lacks sympathy for them now?

Did you know that is partly because of the Zionist movement that Palestine is now a sovereign nation?

 

[UncleBuck]

I gotta call you out on this bullshit, you can't find a nation that is exclusively white anywhere on the planet, all formerly white nations now suffer under the rule of mandated multiculturalism.

which country MANDATES multiculturalism rather than accepts it?

by the way, the above statement makes you sound like a white supremacist.

Oh yeah? Where are these exclusive Christian nations?

i know of a nation that celebrates a zombie's birthday as a national holiday.

So because you feel the Jews as a whole have been persecuted...

feel?

ha, that's FUNNY. they HAVE been persecuted.

does your wife have family members that have died in the holocaust?

...you feel that they should have special rights not afforded to the rest of humanity, how very kind of you, thank you master.

what is preventing any group of folks from doing the same thing that the jews have?

special rights my ass.

 

[UncleBuck]

Should Armenia be disbanded? Should Pakistan be disbanded? Should the USA be disbanded? So why then Israel?

I notice all the racists are deaf to this question.

while i would rather label them as brainwashed rather than bigoted, it is odd that no one has taken a stab at this one yet.

 

[vh13]

while i would rather label them as brainwashed rather than bigoted, it is odd that no one has taken a stab at this one yet.

You're right. I don't like to resort to name calling, but it's hard to resist when everyone else is doing it. (Like the Jews in Israel)

Although, racism is not always so overt, especially now with such a strong "political correctness" movement teaching people to use different words rather then to truly address their core values, it has become a much more subtle game these racists play.

 

[dukeanthony]

So Jews are cool... until they want the same rights as every other nation... then they suck ass, eh?



True, except the word genocide is overstated.

Ya'll keep throwing the word around like it has no meaning. You forget Israel is in a fight for her life, she is taking strong policies to defend herself. She has no intentions of sweeping across the middle east and wiping out whole peoples, which is what many here are claiming. Israel had her chance to occupy more of the middle east when she defeated her attackers in the Six Day war... and most of that land was given back! The Jews don't want to conquer or take, they only want a place for themselves.

They Have a place for themselves. And its getting bigger and Bigger as they unlawfully expand. And as you have stated. Most of that land was Given back. What is the definition of Most?
What about Jeruseleum? What about the Fence? What about the Rights of the Arabs that are israeli Citizens? What bout the settlements? Why is it we cried about UN resolutions and used it for a Pretext for war when Israel holds the Worlds records For UN Resolutions violated?

And Dont even get me started on The Mossad treating our relationship like Shit.

 

[dukeanthony]

Broken U.N. Resolutions





Here's a list of U.N. Resolutions issued against, or ignored by, Israel. At the end are some of the human rights, issued by the Geneva Convention, that Israel has also violated.
All of this infomation was compiled by Jews Against the Occupation, and is available on their website.
Palestinian Refugees have the right to return to their homes in Israel.

General Assembly Resolution 194, Dec. 11, 1948 ​

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"Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible."

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Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal.​

Security Council Resolution 242, Nov. 22, 1967 ​

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Calls for the withdrawal of Israeli forces from territories occupied in the war that year and "the acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."



Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal.​

Security Council Resolution 446, March 22, 1979 ​

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"Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East."


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Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination.​

General Assembly Resolution 3236, November 22, 1974 ​

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Affirms "the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine...to self-determination without external interference" and "to national independence and sovereignty."


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Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State​

Security Council Resolution 1397, March 12, 2002 ​

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Affirms "a vision of a region where two states, Israel and Palestine, live side by side within secure and recognized borders."


More UN Resolutions on Israel, 1955-1992 ​

Resolution 106: condemns Israel for Gaza raid.
Resolution 111: condemns Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people.
Resolution 127: recommends Israel suspend its no-man's zone' in Jerusalem.
Resolution 162: urges Israel to comply with UN decisions.
Resolution 171: determines flagrant violations by Israel in its attack on Syria.
Resolution 228: censures Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control.
Resolution 237: urges Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees.
Resolution 248: condemns Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan.
Resolution 250: calls on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem.
Resolution 251: deeply deplores Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250.
Resolution 252: declares invalid Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital.
Resolution 256: condemns Israeli raids on Jordan as flagrant violation.
Resolution 259: deplores Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation.
Resolution 262: condemns Israel for attack on Beirut airport.
Resolution 265: condemns Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan.
Resolution 267: censures Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem.
Resolution 270: condemns Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon.
Resolution 271: condemns Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem.
Resolution 279: demands withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon.
Resolution 280: condemns Israeli's attacks against Lebanon.
Resolution 285: demands immediate Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon.
Resolution 298: deplores Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem.
Resolution 313: demands that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon.
Resolution 316: condemns Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon.
Resolution 317: deplores Israel's refusal to release.
Resolution 332: condemns Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon.
Resolution 337: condemns Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty.
Resolution 347: condemns Israeli attacks on Lebanon.
Resolution 425: calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.
Resolution 427: calls on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
Resolution 444: deplores Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces.
Resolution 446: determines that Israeli settlements are a serious obstruction to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
Resolution 450: calls on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.
Resolution 452: calls on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories.
Resolution 465: deplores Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist its settlements program.
Resolution 467: strongly deplores Israel's military intervention in Lebanon.
Resolution 468: calls on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return.
Resolution 469: strongly deplores Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians.
Resolution 471: expresses deep concern at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Resolution 476: reiterates that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are null and void.
Resolution 478: censures (Israel) in the strongest terms for its claim to Jerusalem in its Basic Law.
Resolution 484: declares it imperative that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors.
Resolution 487: strongly condemns Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility.
Resolution 497: decides that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights
is null and void and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith.
Resolution 498: calls on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon.
Resolution 501: calls on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops.
Resolution 509: demands that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon.
Resolution 515: demands that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in.
Resolution 517: censures Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon.
Resolution 518: demands that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon.
Resolution 520: condemns Israel's attack into West Beirut.
Resolution 573: condemns Israel vigorously for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters.
Resolution 587: takes note of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw.
Resolution 592: strongly deplores the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops.
Resolution 605: strongly deplores Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians.
Resolution 607: calls on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Resolution 608: deeply regrets that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians.
Resolution 636: deeply regrets Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
Resolution 641: deplores Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 672: condemns Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram Al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
Resolution 673: deplores Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations.
Resolution 681: deplores Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 694: deplores Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
Resolution 726: strongly condemns Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 799: strongly condemns Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return. ​

 

[vh13]

They Have a place for themselves. And its getting bigger and Bigger as they unlawfully expand. And as you have stated. Most of that land was Given back. What is the definition of Most?
What about Jeruseleum? What about the Fence? What about the Rights of the Arabs that are israeli Citizens? What bout the settlements? Why is it we cried about UN resolutions and used it for a Pretext for war when Israel holds the Worlds records For UN Resolutions violated?

And Dont even get me started on The Mossad treating our relationship like Shit.

Throughout history, many nations have expanded their borders by right of conquest. Why is Israel not allowed this right?

Every inch of land they've expanded was hard earned, against all odds, in defense of their home land. They rightfully claimed it from antisemitic attackers who failed in their attempts to conquer.

Should the borders of the USA be redrawn to the original 13 colonies?

You hold a double standard to Israel, and the Jewish people which you do not hold to the rest of the world. If not because of racist sentiment, why should the Jews be singled out as the only nation who is not allowed to expand their borders by right of war (declared on them, and not by them, no less)?

 

[dukeanthony]

Throughout history, many nations have expanded their borders by right of conquest. Why is Israel not allowed this right?

Every inch of land they've expanded was hard earned, against all odds, in defense of their home land. They rightfully claimed it from antisemitic attackers who failed in their attempts to conquer.

Should the borders of the USA be redrawn to the original 13 colonies?

You hold a double standard to Israel, and the Jewish people which you do not hold to the rest of the world. If not because of racist sentiment, why should the Jews be singled out as the only nation who is not allowed to expand their borders by right of war (declared on them, and not by them, no less)?

Not a double standard at all.
Time to Cut Israel Loose. By that I mean. Cut all diplomatic ties.

 

[vh13]

Not a double standard at all.
Time to Cut Israel Loose. By that I mean. Cut all diplomatic ties.

And would you expect the same punishment to their racist neighbors, the true genocidal instigators of this conflict, who have proclaimed a willful desire to erase the Jewish race from the Earth?

If not, there is your double standard.

 

[dukeanthony]

And would you expect the same punishment to their racist neighbors, the true genocidal instigators of this conflict, who have proclaimed a willful desire to erase the Jewish race from the Earth?

If not, there is your double standard.

Funny the history of the Area seems to point to a Influx of Europeans that then proceeded to ethnically cleanse an Area and Establish a Homeland.
They just coincidentally Happened to be Jews. I do my part to fight racism every day of my Life. And Being Jewish doesnt exclude you from that. Zionists are Racists

You are Just as Big a racist as the Guy who started this Worthless Thread

 

[growsolo]

Because it proves you're a racist?

Please take your name calling and illogical rhetoric over to Stormfront's opposing views sub forum, you'll fit in fine over there.

 

[vh13]

Funny the history of the Area seems to point to a Influx of Europeans that then proceeded to ethnically cleanse an Area and Establish a Homeland.

First of all, after thousands of years of persecution, Jews have scattered and now come from around the world, not just Europe.

Second, you admit, relocating people currently living in a land is wrong. So why do you insist this should be done to the Jews born is Israel today?

I do my part to fight racism every day of my Life.

Do you?

You have commented on 50+ threads using any of these four "jewy" words:
zionist
jew
jewish
israel

And yet you have made only 3 posts in any threads containing any of these 15 words:
kurds
kurdish
armenia
armenian
darfur
sudan
tibet
rwanda
bosnia
bosnian
kosovo
botswana
niger
uzbeks
uzbekistan

You're fighting the good fight alright. And clearly you've got a strong focus. Gotta keep that "Jew problem" in line, right?

Zionists are Racists

By that same logic:

The French are racist, because they want to have their own country.
The Swiss are racist, because they want to have their own country.
The British are racist, because they want to have their own country.
The Germans are racist, because they want to have their own country.
The Dutch are racist, because they want to have their own country.
The Chinese are racist, because they want to have their own country.
The Japanese are racist, because they want to have their own country.

Are all these ethnic groups racist because they have their own country?

Double standard.

Why do you refuse to acknowledge you're holding Israel to a different standard then the rest of the world?

 

[UncleBuck]

Please take your name calling and illogical rhetoric over to Stormfront's opposing views sub forum, you'll fit in fine over there.

ironic fail is ironic.