Pro Grow Induction Grow Coming

[sandtrx]

Hi everyone, I'm a new member here (been reading and lurking here like crazy for the last couple of months though) and am going to go out on a limb and risk some $ (I hate risking money). My girlfriend is the patient and i am her grower. we are newbs at this, but are becoming very book smart (the street smarts will come in abit).

Mike Peterson from pro grow has agreed to send us 2 of his 300 watt grow lights deeply discounted in exchange for a grow. The first grow is going to be a little lop sided, We have a blue dream and a jerry berry (I think and was told it was, so we will see) in the flower tent right now under a 1000 watt hps with an ultra sun bulb, the 2 have been in the flower tent for 12 days. When the lights come in on wednesday, the room will get partitioned off and the other blue dream and jerry berry will go under the induction light.

Mike is fully aware that his light will be going up against a 1000 hps and i made sure that he knew this (since these are not being donated and i am out bucks, I wanted to make sure that he was ok with this) and he enthusiastically told me that he was more than happy to go up against the hps (which made me feel a lot better)

More to come, we will start a journal in the appropriate place when this starts. I have very high hopes for these lights, but i'm not about to sugar coat anything with either light, things are black and white to me, and they either are or they are not.

 

[darkdestruction420]

i'd like more info on the light you are talking about please. a link would be fine. I hope you stick around and keep us updated, im sure quite a few others are interested in seeing what plasma can really do.

 

[sandtrx]

i'd like more info on the light you are talking about please. a link would be fine. I hope you stick around and keep us updated, im sure quite a few others are interested in seeing what plasma can really do.

I wasn't sure if i could post a link or not, but here it is to the 300watt light. http://www.progrowlights.com/Store/tabid/745/ProductID/15/Default.aspx (be patient, it takes a sec for it to load and apparently they are finalizing the website, so there are some spelling errors). I emailed mike from pro grow and told him to introduce himself and the company on here (not for advertising purposes, but to give his own account of his lights, I'm not sure of the rules here for vendors, that'll be something he'll have to take up with you guys)

I will stick around for the entire grow, I'm really stoked to see what these lights can do

 

[puffenuff]

Always interested in new lights, these look interesting! Good luck, I'll be along for the journey.

 

[unohu69]

sweet, always interested in new lighting tech., but these things take time to come to the market. HighTimes introduced me to plasma lighting years ago, and only just recently is it being sold. all tho way to expensive for the average grower.

These look like a viable alternative to hids tho.

 

[sandtrx]

Thanks guys, we hope to bring some good info about them, the good and hopefully no bad. It amazes me that the core technology for these was invented by Tesla and that we are just now getting around to expanding on it.

 

[darkdestruction420]

yeah, edison that bastard.....

 

[Nikolaj06]

I'm confused about the lights... The pictures are blue and red.. But the color temp. is 5,000k. And from what I know about induction lighting, it shouldn't be possible to have two different colors in one light.. So my guess would be that the color comes from a layer outside, and not from the gasses, which is just reducing the actual output?

 

[sandtrx]

I'm confused about the lights... The pictures are blue and red.. But the color temp. is 5,000k. And from what I know about induction lighting, it shouldn't be possible to have two different colors in one light.. So my guess would be that the color comes from a layer outside, and not from the gasses, which is just reducing the actual output?

the way that i understand it is that the phosphor coating on the inside of the glass determines the light output. Mike from pro grow should be along to explain further

 

[sandtrx]

the lights are on the way and should be here on wednesday.

 

[4petee]

Hi Matt - thanks for the intro and for your first order...we are certain that our new HFIND 300 watt lamps will exceed your expectations. That's because we have a proprietary color spectrum formula which offers uVa and uVb rays. Also we "energy spike" the red and blue spectrums which are so essential to the veg and flowering stages of plant growth. The key to using our lights is to place the light very closely to the plant so that the plant can absorb maximum light. Our lamps put off very little heat so there be no leaf burning or drying. Also no venting or AC moving will be needed. Good luck with your grow! We look forward to seeing the results which we know will be superior - Mike Petersen/ Pro Grow Lights Ltd. www.progrowlights.com

 

[TheGaussianMan]

Petee, I have a few questions about the light.
1) How good is your penetration?
2) What is the optimal foot print for flower?
3) How hot does it run and how big of a room does it need to be in without moving air?
4) When did you guys come out on the market?

 

[Nikolaj06]

Hey Petee Your lights look awesome! But a few suggestions to the website.. Could you add some pictures of the ballast? and of the lights when they aren't lit?.. Also the information is wrong on the 120 w, 150 w and 450 watt lights (the info is on the 300 w light) I suggest you might want to change that In addition to this you should add a FAQ page But I'm sure you're on this already
Also probs on the low shipping costs! 15$ for international shipping is awesome Although shouldn't the tax be removed when it's international?

 

[gobskiii]

i think if theres going to be a new light to break the hid market, it will be LED not induction...im all for trying new things, but those lights look ridiculous, and more like old school t12's...i hope im wrong, for your sake...but they dont look like they could grow a blade of grass...let alone MJ.

 

[Nikolaj06]

i think if theres going to be a new light to break the hid market, it will be LED not induction...im all for trying new things, but those lights look ridiculous, and more like old school t12's...i hope im wrong, for your sake...but they dont look like they could grow a blade of grass...let alone MJ.

Induction are usable to grow MJ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GkFPijbnCs&feature=related
What appeals to me is the lower heat compared to CFL and the extreme lifetime.. And these new lights look awesome

 

[sandtrx]

Mike is apparently extremely confident in his lights, and i have high hopes for them as well. I fully disclosed that his light would be on a public journal from flowering start to finish (the second journal will be clone to harvest) going up against a 1000 watt hps, I know that he believes in the lights, he didn't so much and wince when i told him what i had planned. It would be business suicide to let someone take a garbage product and start a journal with it on an open forum. The results of this will do one of 2 things, either help build his business or start tearing it down. If i was not 100% confident in a prduct, I certainly would not encourage what i am doing.

Inda gro's induction grow lights are having some pretty impressive results, and if these are spektrum tweaked more, along with uva and uvb, they should out perform them.
HPS has been the standard forever, just like a carburetor, but then along came injection, which pretty much tore down the carburetors house. (I know pro stock is carbureted, but they are basically big toilet bowls that are getting flushed). Unless you are racing (racing is becoming more dominated by injection all the time though), fuel inection is way more efficient at getting the same job done. Isn't that what we are after? The same or better job being done, production and effieciency wise.

I know the website has some issues and he told me that they are trying to wrap it up this week. I hope that he takes an active role on this site answering questions.

 

[sandtrx]

the lights didn't show up yesterday, damn post office any ways. Hopefully they are here tomorrow so we can get started.

 

[4petee]

Hi everyone. I'm kind of new here at the blogosphere. Let me see if I can quickly address everyone's comments here starting with the earliest..please send me an email at [email protected] if you want more info or to receive our product presentation.

@sandtrx - i think you received the lights by now!

@nikolaj06

1) don't confuse color temperature (kelvin) with color spectrum! please check wikipedia or other to understand or email me at [email protected]

2) yes we are still on version 1.0 of the website. We have quite a bit of website development, changes and explanation to do. should be done in next few days. it's an ongoing journey and not a destination!

@gobskii
LED and HID are 2 completely different technologies. pls. google it to understand. we are more concerned with how our lights grow things instead of how they look.

@guassionman
1) penetration at the leaf is quite good because you can place the lamp within 6" of the plant with no burning. this decreases the internodal gap and gives denser budding. more supporting data on our website soon.
2) optimal footprint for flower... this depends on many factors including install height, plant spacing on grow table, using a tent, etc. but optimal is one 300W lamp for 2 to 4 plants during flowers
3) our lamps dont' even require ventilation. i think that matt will confirm that soon.
4) we came out on the market just 4 months ago. we are an offshoot of an established LED and energy efficient lighting company. we sell tons of LED retrofit projects for commercial business. unfortunately LED is just not there yet for the majority of commercial grow applications. it's a matter of power/spectral energy/price.

we stand by our claims and will support them with more info and technical data on our website soon .

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Intrigued by these induction lights.......
gonna check this out...........good luck with your grow

 

[4petee]

@guassionman

1) penetration at the leaf is quite good because you can place the lamp within 6" of the plant with no burning. this decreases the internodal gap and gives denser budding. more supporting data on our website soon.

2) optimal footprint for flower... this depends on many factors including install height, plant spacing on grow table, using a tent, etc. but optimal is one 300W lamp for 2 to 4 plants during flowering

3) our lamps put off such low heat that they dont' even require ventilation. i think that matt will confirm that soon.

4) PGL is a new company just started 4 months ago. we are an offshoot of an established LED and energy efficient lighting company that's been in business for about 3 years. we separated the business out since it's a little different than our normal school and church lighting retrofits. we sell tons of LED retrofit projects for commercial business. unfortunately LED is just not there yet for the majority of commercial grow applications. it's a matter of power/spectral energy/price.