Samwell Seed Well
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http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TI-20-Thermal-Imager/dp/B002JINUW6
well this hand held unit is only 5k, but without being sensational we can get the point lol
Maybe Drone's monitoring us, tazing us, and shooting at us is not such a good idea?
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well this hand held unit is only 5k, but without being sensational we can get the point lol
BTW if you read the article, you will find that "toy" cost them $300,000. Which is about $299,900 More than what you think it costs.Just so everyone is clear.
This is a predator drone:
This is a toy helicopter:
Do we all understand the difference?
massah
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Jesus fuck...I need to start building toy helicopters with cameras on them and sell them to police departments lol
these "Toys" can be weaponized with 40mm grenade launchers, TASERS and other offensive weapons. Also the heli is controlled by waypoints. not some dude with a transmitter sitting out in a field within eye sight. http://www.policeone.com/police-products/tactical/tactical-video/articles/2835617-IACP-2010-Airborne-support-for-law-enforcement-that-wont-break-the-bank/
The weaponized versions cost about half a Million, which again, is way more than $100. These are not "toys" you buy at the Mall. These are Drones that can track and fly fully automated, R/C helis require a pilot to be nearby and with full visual to control the heli. Drones do not require a pilot to control every movement, toys do.
The weaponized versions cost about half a Million, which again, is way more than $100. These are not "toys" you buy at the Mall. These are Drones that can track and fly fully automated, R/C helis require a pilot to be nearby and with full visual to control the heli. Drones do not require a pilot to control every movement, toys do.
My Helis cost a fraction of that, my most expensive one only cost about $1800, I can put a small camera on board but it isn't autonomous.Jesus fuck...I need to start building toy helicopters with cameras on them and sell them to police departments lol
massah
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Need better software
Jack Harer
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Like Massah says, It could be very easily.
Exerpt from the Police One article:
What Was That You Said About Free?
Sure, the ShadowHawk can cost upwards of a half million dollars not counting the ground school, the insurance, the maintenance, and the upkeep for an agency. But Buscher and his team have been successful in helping at least one agency secure a federal grant that paid every last dime of those costs.
The company is preparing to deliver the system to Montgomery County (Texas) Sheriffs Department, which is among the largest departments in the United States. Vanguard was able to work with the agency to develop a winning grant proposal that allowed the entire cost of acquisition, training, insurance, and maintenance for a period two years to be absorbed in an Urban Areas Security Initiative (UASI) grant. They now have a model for success to follow on the grants front, and surely the folks at PoliceGrantsHelp can provide additional assistance.
I wonder what the general population would say if they knew this? I wonder how much SS and medicare has to get cut so we can afford a small fleet of these? And I suppose this falls under Federal Spending Cuts. Whats a few million when you're 100 trillion in debt anyway?
BTW, anyone else bothered by the Urban Areas Security Initiative? I thought we were securing our borders, not the inner cities. What are we securing the cities from? US?
Exerpt from the Police One article:
What Was That You Said About Free?
Sure, the ShadowHawk can cost upwards of a half million dollars not counting the ground school, the insurance, the maintenance, and the upkeep for an agency. But Buscher and his team have been successful in helping at least one agency secure a federal grant that paid every last dime of those costs.
The company is preparing to deliver the system to Montgomery County (Texas) Sheriffs Department, which is among the largest departments in the United States. Vanguard was able to work with the agency to develop a winning grant proposal that allowed the entire cost of acquisition, training, insurance, and maintenance for a period two years to be absorbed in an Urban Areas Security Initiative (UASI) grant. They now have a model for success to follow on the grants front, and surely the folks at PoliceGrantsHelp can provide additional assistance.
I wonder what the general population would say if they knew this? I wonder how much SS and medicare has to get cut so we can afford a small fleet of these? And I suppose this falls under Federal Spending Cuts. Whats a few million when you're 100 trillion in debt anyway?
BTW, anyone else bothered by the Urban Areas Security Initiative? I thought we were securing our borders, not the inner cities. What are we securing the cities from? US?
dukeanthony
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Breaking Down the Urban Area Security Initiative
David Muhlhausen
August 23, 2011 at 1:45 pm
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http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/23/breaking-down-the-urban-area-security-initiative/#http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/23/breaking-down-the-urban-area-security-initiative/#
A recent report by the National Urban Area Initiative Association attempts to demonstrate that the Urban Area Security Initiative (UASI) grant program, created in 2003, is an effective homeland security program. Administered by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the UASI program allocates grant funding to help high-risk, high-density urban areas develop the capacity “to prevent, protect against, respond to, and recover from acts of terrorism.” While the National UASI Association report attempts to demonstrate the effectiveness of UASI grants, the report’s findings must be interpreted with caution. First, the report’s methodology has significant shortcomings. Second, the report cannot be viewed as an independent, objective assessment of the grant program’s effectiveness
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/23/breaking-down-the-urban-area-security-initiative/
David Muhlhausen
August 23, 2011 at 1:45 pm
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http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/23/breaking-down-the-urban-area-security-initiative/#http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/23/breaking-down-the-urban-area-security-initiative/#
A recent report by the National Urban Area Initiative Association attempts to demonstrate that the Urban Area Security Initiative (UASI) grant program, created in 2003, is an effective homeland security program. Administered by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the UASI program allocates grant funding to help high-risk, high-density urban areas develop the capacity “to prevent, protect against, respond to, and recover from acts of terrorism.” While the National UASI Association report attempts to demonstrate the effectiveness of UASI grants, the report’s findings must be interpreted with caution. First, the report’s methodology has significant shortcomings. Second, the report cannot be viewed as an independent, objective assessment of the grant program’s effectiveness
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/23/breaking-down-the-urban-area-security-initiative/
Dan Kone
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False as far as I'm aware. This seems to be nothing more than a cop with an over active imagination who bought himself a toy helicopter and painted it.
Dan Kone
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IMO they bought the toy helicopter for $100, another $6k for the camera, then the cops took the other $293,900 to Vegas where they spent it on coke and whores.
I'm sorry but this is NOT some top sekret drone. I saw the EXACT model for sale at the mall for $100. It's not similar, it's exactly the same. The only difference is the paint job. Is that a $290k paint job?
Dan Kone
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ummmm, no. Sorry but I don't believe you. Just look at the damn thing. It's two feet long and weighs less than 20 pounds. You can't attach a freaking grenade launcher to it.
The laws of physics apply to everyone, even the police.
doc111
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They have 40mm grenade launchers that weigh about 2 pounds now. It may not be QUITE feasible yet to put grenade launchers on drones (and grenades aren't very accurate, especially for policing civilians) but the technology is VERY close. This is how things start. They don't seem too extreme in the beginning and slowly our rights get taken away and before long we COULD be living in a police state. I mean a TRUE police state, not this bullshit that protesters are calling a "police state" because the police are kicking over their tents. lol!
dukeanthony
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Sorry you cannot Put a 40mm grenade launcher on that
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dukeanthony
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Same issues with a 12g
Dan Kone
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Can you imagine what the kick back from a 12g would do to a toy helicopter in the air? lol
dukeanthony
New Member
Even if it had gyro stabilizers (besides the Blades)
How you going to aim it?
Predators work because they fire Hellfire Missles which have Very little Recoil ( they drop before ignition) and Can self guide themselves once they aquire a target
You guys know very little. I mean at least you could have clicked the link, would have saved you from looking like 5 year olds arguing about things they have no clue about.
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/tactical/tactical-video/articles/2835617-IACP-2010-Airborne-support-for-law-enforcement-that-wont-break-the-bank/
Toy helicopters don't have real turbine engines.