dukeanthony
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Please Give examples mr radical
Big Government
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Why do you feel the need to paste derogatory slurs on those you disagree with?
That has nothing to do with the debate & makes you appear petty at best.
MuyLocoNC
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Really? I don't really need to C&P a bunch of recent news articles from Europe, do I? Cuba ring a bell...Eastern Europe perhaps, how about the USSR. You're a big boy, and we KNOW you can use google...I have neither the interest nor the inclination to C&P the failed history of facism, socialism and communism, which if course are the inevitable conclusions of ever growing government. When the fuck did pot smoking hippies start calling for more power to be bestowed on the government anyways? The world is upside, fucking down. You guys rail on and on about the power and jackbooted thuggery of cops, then in the same breath want to give more power to their masters, it's criminally hypocritical.
UncleBuck
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wanting the government to not be in bed with the people they are supposedly regulating is not asking for a police state on the people, that is your false assumption.
it is as simple minded as boneheadbob's silly little false trichotomy.
if you'd notice, the BP oil spill would have been prevented if the regulations that were already in place had simply been enforced, it requires no growing of government whatsoever.
but do go on with your tired old "fear the big government" mantra. fox news worshippers really seem to know nothing else.
dukeanthony
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Which has what to do with Big GOverment?
dukeanthony
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The Goverment is Bad
VOTE RON PAUL
its why he spent 33 years in it
Sucking as Much Tax payer money as He could for his district
But spending is Unconstitutional
VOTE RON PAUL
its why he spent 33 years in it
Sucking as Much Tax payer money as He could for his district
But spending is Unconstitutional
MuyLocoNC
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And MSNBC viewers have their heads up their asses and cheer and support policies that will result our mutual destruction. Isn't it fun to categorize people with inane comments and observations backed by nothing other than our opposing views, because we think their are more people on RIU that support our views than our opponents? Stupidity sure is fun.
To the one semi-lucid point you made, if the BP oil spill was due to existing laws and regulations not being enforced, and the problem wasn't related to the size, too big or too small, of the government and since I didn't mention the BP oil spill, didn't reference it in my post, and it doesn't invalidate my argument... why bring it up?
MuyLocoNC
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dukeanthony
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UncleBuck
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then why go on a sheepish rant about "fear the big bad government"?
you might check the OP for an answer there
If government oversight is the solution to all problems why not have a government camera in every house and a government agent to follow every civilian around for life just to make sure nothing bad happens? Since the Government regulates forest fires, how come we have them? Can't the government outlaw lightning? They Can!! But they can't stop the lightning from starting a forest on fire. Just like the government makes it illegal to spill oil, but shit happens anyway.
Perhaps if we had a PRIVATE agency that inspected things we would not have had that problem, perhaps if a PRIVATE agency had investigated Enron, perhaps if a PRIVATE agency followed up on the greatest theft ever perpetrated in the history of the world you might actually see someone other than Bernie Madoff pay for it.
Since we have Government on the watch you can rest assured this shit will just continue to happen, no matter how many laws are made or how hard they try. Government is 99% incompetent. A well known fact that the bottom 25% of college grads work for government, yet you want to trust them to do the right thing even though the record is littered with failure at every turn.
Perhaps if we had a PRIVATE agency that inspected things we would not have had that problem, perhaps if a PRIVATE agency had investigated Enron, perhaps if a PRIVATE agency followed up on the greatest theft ever perpetrated in the history of the world you might actually see someone other than Bernie Madoff pay for it.
Since we have Government on the watch you can rest assured this shit will just continue to happen, no matter how many laws are made or how hard they try. Government is 99% incompetent. A well known fact that the bottom 25% of college grads work for government, yet you want to trust them to do the right thing even though the record is littered with failure at every turn.
MuyLocoNC
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Because I was responding to Dukes assertion of 3 types of companies. Then after his reply, I posted in response to that. We were on a bit of a tangent that was still within the parameters of the thread, but NOT specifically addressing it. That tends to happen on here a bit, yes? Of course anyone can feel free to interject, but you might want to actually follow along if you're going to comment.then why go on a sheepish rant about "fear the big bad government"?
you might check the OP for an answer there
MuyLocoNC
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No, I've been fairly clear all along. I'm for a restrained, very limited federal government. I tend to agree with that whole states rights thing.
And if you're asserting that those who want the USA to follow the intent of the Constitution, need to leave, brother we outnumber you 4-1, if anyone is leaving...it'll be you. There's already a paradise running just like what you want here, it's Europe. And it's doing remarkably well, you'd love it. I think we'll go ahead and keep our country as it was intended.
UncleBuck
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4 to 1? it should be a slamdunk for you guys then! maybe get out and vote more often?
LOL!
i think you are mistaking the intent of the constitution with the intent of the articles of confederation, by the way.
i am still laughing at your 4 to 1 assertion (completely unfounded).
dukeanthony
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We Did have a private agency investigate Enron. Its called an Auditor and the Company was Called Arthur Anderson. Ever Heard of it? They are out of Business. Thats how the Free market and Ron pauls Wet Dream works. Unfortunatly everyone that got screwed by Enron Didnt get shit
And that is also How Ron Pauls wet Utopian Dream works
Arthur Andersen LLP, based in Chicago, was once one of the "Big Five" accounting firms among PricewaterhouseCoopers, Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, Ernst & Young and KPMG, providing auditing, tax, and consulting services to large corporations. In 2002, the firm voluntarily surrendered its licenses to practice as Certified Public Accountants in the United States after being found guilty of criminal charges relating to the firm's handling of the auditing of Enron, an energy corporation based in Texas which had filed for bankruptcy in 2001 and later failed
Theres no money for Government. We must accpet this and react accordingly or have the realities of this forced upon us against our will. We have given away all of our money, plus an extra 15 trillion dollars. We have to do a controled demo and complete rebuild. Its the only way I am afraid.
MuyLocoNC
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I can point you to so many polls, it boggles the mind that you don't know the number by heart. People/Voters that identify themselves as "liberal" is ALWAYS in the 20-25% range. And its these hardcore "liberals" that want massive government expansion and intrusion with the ultimate goal being European-style socialism, which they openly admit.
The Libs on here can't gush enough about how much better everything is over there, about how much better we would be if we adopted their policies, I've heard it countless times by all of you. Duke and the ilk like him are lucky if they can claim 20% of the American population supports the bullshit he calls for in here. That was my point and I'm correct.
MuyLocoNC
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Dead on Coals, no question we have to completely end this farce.
Ahh, how wonderful it would be if it was only $15 trillion. We have over $115 trillion in unfunded liabilities at this time, a number so large and so ominous that very few of our leaders will even mention it. But the Lib gang in here has it all figured out, we don't need to make massive changes to our entitlements, everything is fine. Of course, until they start coming due, then what? Is China gonna lend us $60 trillion? Can we actually just print money in $30 trillion chunks instead of the $1-3 trillion we've been doing? We're on a collision course with catastrophe, it's not a matter of if, it's just a matter of when.
dukeanthony
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Doom gloom governments bad Ron Paul
Most of america think you and Ron Paul are nuts
Face reality
Most of america think you and Ron Paul are nuts
Face reality
MuyLocoNC
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$115 trillion IS REALITY, it isn't a myth or a delusion, it's fact. But, like most liberals when faced with facts, you try to marginalize your opponent rather than addressing the argument.