I CAN'T BELEIVE MY EYES! MYSTERY"seedling popped up from near the roots of Goo plant

newwb

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Ok, so I am in my first grow...I have 15 mixed types under 2,000 MH...today as I was giving them their weekly hygrozyme dosing, I noticed what appeared to be a seedling popping up from under the canopy of my Goo plant!!!
I have googled this, I have heard roots left in plastic, dark closets can sprout thousands of new little plants, but this is CRAZY!
If this is somehow what hygrozyme does, woohoo.LOL.
I debated buying that stuff it was so pricey, but my roots in my wick buckets have literally EXPLODED in pretty white growth(as well as new plant growth following..) and first dose was only 1 week ago!
I carefully dug it up to see where it came from..there were copious amounts of beautiful roots at the base of where I slid the tiny new seedling from about 3 inches below the soils surface. (don't even know if I can call it a seedling!), So I moistened a jiffy pot with D-H2o and hygrozyme,PH adjusted to 6.4 it has about a 3/4 inch "stem, and a 1" single root...this was bagged, sterile organic soil..and my first "seed" order won't be here for a couple weeks, so this is a fluke!!Or does this occasionally happen???
I'm going to have to turn back on my T5 for this? It seemed to pop up under the shade of its mum under 2000 watt MH (just added the 2nd 2 days ago)
so I put the jiffy pot on a tiny plate, covered with a clear glass so I can watch it undisturbed...has a sl amount of h20/hygrozyme under jiffy pot to keep it moist under there...will add pics as this sprout grows, an "auto Gooey"!
Please anyone with info on this let me know and thank you in advance!
 

PeyoteReligion

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If you are using organic soil it is probably just a random plant growing from medium. As far as I know cannabis will not do what you are describing. I strongly believe you have a seedling of some random plant that went into the compost to make your organic soil.
 

tryin

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Yea I had the same thing happen to me. I gently pulled it & re potted it and started watering it thinking I had 2 plants now instead of one. I learned after a little bit that it was not what I thought it was.
 

Total Head

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i had this happen before, and it was most definitely cannabis. coty leaves, true leaves and all. it emerged from a crack in the soil. there is a thread or two around here on root cloning. not a lot of info on how to trigger it on purpose, unfortunately. i was so encouraged by the root clone thread that i did some screwing around with some bagseeds i had and the roots. i never got anywhere because i got discouraged, but it does happen.
 

PeyoteReligion

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i had this happen before, and it was most definitely cannabis. coty leaves, true leaves and all. it emerged from a crack in the soil. there is a thread or two around here on root cloning. not a lot of info on how to trigger it on purpose, unfortunately. i was so encouraged by the root clone thread that i did some screwing around with some bagseeds i had and the roots. i never got anywhere because i got discouraged, but it does happen.
So you grew out this "root clone" and it was for sure cannabis? Organic mediums have a tendancy to grow everything from tomatoe seedlings (which at seedling stage look almost exactly like cannabis, cotyledons and then spiky secondary leaves looking like pot) to mushrooms! I dare you to show me a "root clone" that is real cannabis.
 

forgetiwashere

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tomato seeds are very common in organic compost too especially worm castings or vermiculite that hasnt been properly treated
 

cannofbliss

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well... first off cotyledons will never form from a root or a cutting... as they can only form from a seed...

and secondly this sounds like a poor attempt at a viral marketing ad for hygrozyme... but then i could be mistaken ;)
 

Dizzle Frost

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it happens ot me sometimes, they look like afalfa sprouts or something....jus seeds that blew into the soil mix...deff not mj tho
 

newwb

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weeds 259.jpgweeds 271.jpgweeds 296.jpgI am def NOT hyping the hygrozyme, except for what I have witnessed in my own root growth (after 1 week, only 1 treatment I had scant roots at the openings where the wicks go into the 5 gal bucket...today, 3 of the 4 in wick buckets have bright white roots expanding down almost into the nutrient mix.
Here is the pic...
I am a hopeful realist without a botany degree, or for that matter, experience, this is my first medical grow.
I will keep an eye on it, who knows, perhaps a tomato for spring..but what I don't get, is the soil has been almost 2 months in the pot, and it just now grows?
Oh well...it gives me something to be excited about!
 

Total Head

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So you grew out this "root clone" and it was for sure cannabis? Organic mediums have a tendancy to grow everything from tomatoe seedlings (which at seedling stage look almost exactly like cannabis, cotyledons and then spiky secondary leaves looking like pot) to mushrooms! I dare you to show me a "root clone" that is real cannabis.
i let it grow for 2 weeks. it had spouted its first true leaves and there was a very obvious set of cannabis leaves on deck. i plucked it out because the main plant was almost a month into veg.

well... first off cotyledons will never form from a root or a cutting... as they can only form from a seed...

and secondly this sounds like a poor attempt at a viral marketing ad for hygrozyme... but then i could be mistaken ;)
this is just incorrect.

you may all be interested in this thread (which i had to locate via google and i only found it because i remembered who wrote it. admin please fix the search and links)

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/295710-root-clone-test-pictures.html

it goes down, i promise. the issue is learning how to trigger it on purpose. the thread is short on pics but chock full of information on how it actually works.
 

cannofbliss

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i let it grow for 2 weeks. it had spouted its first true leaves and there was a very obvious set of cannabis leaves on deck. i plucked it out because the main plant was almost a month into veg. this is just incorrect.
actually i was absolutely correct that cotyledons will never form from cuttings or just roots...(other than from seed) HOWEVER they would be called adventitious buds aka...SHOOT BUDS and are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM COTYLEDONS ;) buddy ;)
 

cannofbliss

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i let it grow for 2 weeks. it had spouted its first true leaves and there was a very obvious set of cannabis leaves on deck. i plucked it out because the main plant was almost a month into veg.



this is just incorrect.

you may all be interested in this thread (which i had to locate via google and i only found it because i remembered who wrote it. admin please fix the search and links)

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/295710-root-clone-test-pictures.html

it goes down, i promise. the issue is learning how to trigger it on purpose. the thread is short on pics but chock full of information on how it actually works.
and also the thread died on page 33 with no results obtained from anything...

so if even these "somatic embryo's" or root buds were formed they are clearly nowhere near the same as you would get from a zygotic embryo cotyledon that derived from a SEED ;)

even though the further development aka future growth kinda looks the same... as in AFTER the plant is past a maturation point...

both somatic and zygotic are completely two different things... where an embryo or plant that forms from a somatic cell or many other somatic cells... the process of growth is morphological cell division...

which is a completely different process than that of zygotic... where zygotic forms from two haploid cells which then form a diploid cell...

if i am ever wrong with something i'll definitely admit to it... just like the other day... i accidentally posted to someone who was askin why it was taking so long for his buds to mature and it was already 6 wks into flowering, and i noticed that it was a sativa or sativa dominant pheno... and i accidentally typed 9-14 MONTHS as opposed to 9-14 weeks... whoops ;) lol and thankfully lime73 caught the error... and i was glad for him having the eye to point that out to me cause i didnt notice it after typing it until i came back to the post several minutes later and laughed at myself for the mistake ;)

so please... next time read up on the difference between somatic embryogenesis and zygotic embryogenesis before you go spoutin off that i was incorrect... ;)
 

PeyoteReligion

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Nice looking girl dude. Also a tomatoe growin indoors is fucking amazing! I do tomatoes in my soiless mix and feed it the good nutes, and lovey results. Though I've never done it indoors, I would imagine it to be amazing. But it won't make it to spring, as tomatoes are not photo specific. Meaning that the plant will flower when it's mature not when the light period changes. But when if it flowers indoor it needs to be pollinated in order to produce acctual fruit. In nature bees will do it for you.

Just a little info of you wanted to grow it out if it is a tomatoe.
 

cannofbliss

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to the OP named Newwb... anyways... besides all of the other crap back there LOL ;)

its cool to see you found new growth out of your medium... and hope it turns out well for you :)

oh and if the hygrozyme has auxins or other hormones in it such as ingredients similar to rooting gel, powder, or liquid etc... such as indole 3 butyric acid then that could explain the active soil you have and simply a root or part of your roots had started to form a shoot out of it just as if you were to take a cutting and dip it into the rooting gel...

so... instead of forming roots... your plant decided to form another growth sprout from the root primordia to continue vegetative growth... rather than where it normally does at the meristem... ;)
 

Total Head

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and also the thread died on page 33 with no results obtained from anything...

so if even these "somatic embryo's" or root buds were formed they are clearly nowhere near the same as you would get from a zygotic embryo cotyledon that derived from a SEED ;)

even though the further development aka future growth kinda looks the same... as in AFTER the plant is past a maturation point...

both somatic and zygotic are completely two different things... where an embryo or plant that forms from a somatic cell or many other somatic cells... the process of growth is morphological cell division...

which is a completely different process than that of zygotic... where zygotic forms from two haploid cells which then form a diploid cell...

if i am ever wrong with something i'll definitely admit to it... just like the other day... i accidentally posted to someone who was askin why it was taking so long for his buds to mature and it was already 6 wks into flowering, and i noticed that it was a sativa or sativa dominant pheno... and i accidentally typed 9-14 MONTHS as opposed to 9-14 weeks... whoops ;) lol and thankfully lime73 caught the error... and i was glad for him having the eye to point that out to me cause i didnt notice it after typing it until i came back to the post several minutes later and laughed at myself for the mistake ;)

so please... next time read up on the difference between somatic embryogenesis and zygotic embryogenesis before you go spoutin off that i was incorrect... ;)
no one is saying that it's like growing from seed. all that is being explored here is whether or not the thing that sprouted in the op's pot is in fact cannabis. when i said you were incorrect i was referring to what you said about a root being UNABLE to sprout coty leaves. that is not correct. it's pretty widely accepted that adventitious roots can form on tissues that are derived from stems or leaves, and that plants (including cannabis) have totipotent cells that may react to stimuli in a number of ways.

i fail to see how somatic embryos are in any way "false". i'll admit that you seem to be a little more into the science of this, so i'm hoping you can clear this up.

are you saying that root cloning is a lie, or just that it will not produce coty leaves?
 

drunx

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I had the same shit happen to me it was in my dirt mix can from some seed that didnt pop. I had to reuse the dirt for my lemon mother and the seed poped on the side of a main mother .. But long sotry short it turned out to be a mango i lost and turned out to be fire but i ran it threw didnt get and cuts hah fk myself .. Might be good stuff :)
 
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