WOS - Chronic Haze and SS - Power Africa ( Ebb & Flow )

firsttimeARE

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Can you break them out of them and put them straight into growstones? I wanna use h2o2 and if they're organic(they sound it) I don't want it destroying the cube and breaking away into my pump.

How long should I be using a humidome? I felt I used it for too long last time(couple weeks) so this time I took it off as soon as they emerged up and had the cotyledons exposed.
 

Someguy15

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Can you break them out of them and put them straight into growstones? I wanna use h2o2 and if they're organic(they sound it) I don't want it destroying the cube and breaking away into my pump.

How long should I be using a humidome? I felt I used it for too long last time(couple weeks) so this time I took it off as soon as they emerged up and had the cotyledons exposed.
They are about the only organic component I use in my system. Once transplant to a container the cube should be just slightly above flood level in the medium. Same as RW basically, but they are wayyyy more forgiving in my experiences. Anyways after I transplant them into the pots, the roots are still at the top (above flood level) so I just pour some of the table soultion on top a couple times a day for about a week. Then I stop top watering completely and force them to seek it out, usually by 1 week after potting the roots are more then established in the bottom of the pot.

Don't worry about the cubes breaking up, they are actually really solid, only time they come apart for me is if I tear them myself.

I would use a dome on seeds maybe the first week of life. Completely closed vents when they start to emerge (high humidity makes it easier for them to shed the seed casing) and then after the leaves start emerging, a slight crack in the vent. Over the next week slowly open the vents a bit more each day (or whatever) to 'harden them off' as it's called to the new, drier enviroment. Use a similar technique with clones, but the whole first week the vents stay closed, then I follow this same method week 2.
 

firsttimeARE

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2 gone out of the 4 chronic haze and another looks like its on its way. I took the dome off too early (after 2 days) and the water in them evaporated so quickly. They kept getting too dried and died as a result. Wicked peeved. I cannot get in the room that often to water them. I'm moving the clones and seedlings to my house so I can monitor them better. I really don't like the idea of transporting a bunch of clones, but what the fuck other choice do I got? Over water them they get root rot and die. Underwater them their leaves turn yellow and die. I cannot win. Even with the dome(put it back on a few days ago) they're getting too dry within 22 hours. I closed the vents in the dome. So sad to waste 100 dollars worth of seeds. FML. I'm sure taking the plastic off the grodan only helped the evaporation better. I try and do things differently, and I achieve, only in negative ways also. DUMB DUMB DUMB. It'd be easier if I had someone else to blame.

Do root riots hold water longer?

On a happier note, my new seeds came in. 5 pack of barneys farm violator kush and a 3 pack of world of seeds afghan kush special. And 3 freebies. But they aren't touching media until I get my technique down.

I feel very doubtful of myself ever growing anything bigger than 6 inches. Biggest plants ive had so far, and that was my first attempt in soil. I've just gone downhill since. Granted its hydro, but still. The people who teach hydro here all make it sound so easy and have so much confidence in the readers of their material that it makes me feel like a huge failure when I cannot succeed.
 

hornedfrog2000

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2 gone out of the 4 chronic haze and another looks like its on its way. I took the dome off too early (after 2 days) and the water in them evaporated so quickly. They kept getting too dried and died as a result. Wicked peeved. I cannot get in the room that often to water them. I'm moving the clones and seedlings to my house so I can monitor them better. I really don't like the idea of transporting a bunch of clones, but what the fuck other choice do I got? Over water them they get root rot and die. Underwater them their leaves turn yellow and die. I cannot win. Even with the dome(put it back on a few days ago) they're getting too dry within 22 hours. I closed the vents in the dome. So sad to waste 100 dollars worth of seeds. FML. I'm sure taking the plastic off the grodan only helped the evaporation better. I try and do things differently, and I achieve, only in negative ways also. DUMB DUMB DUMB. It'd be easier if I had someone else to blame.

Do root riots hold water longer?

On a happier note, my new seeds came in. 5 pack of barneys farm violator kush and a 3 pack of world of seeds afghan kush special. And 3 freebies. But they aren't touching media until I get my technique down.

I feel very doubtful of myself ever growing anything bigger than 6 inches. Biggest plants ive had so far, and that was my first attempt in soil. I've just gone downhill since. Granted its hydro, but still. The people who teach hydro here all make it sound so easy and have so much confidence in the readers of their material that it makes me feel like a huge failure when I cannot succeed.
I've been attempting to grow for years and still have problems man. It is really hard until it becomes easy it seems. I didn't have issues cloning before, but now I can't do it to save my life.
 

firsttimeARE

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Thanks horned...I'm hanging in there for the long ride fo sho. Spent far too much money to give up. Sadly right now that's my only motivation to keep learning and growing. I guess I also keep going because I don't like failing. I will keep trying. Just getting discouraged by lack of results.

Finished al b faqt thread today. All 181 pages of it. Onto clones in rockwool thread. Only like 18 pages hopefully I can bang that outon my day off tommorow. Going to nyc Sunday and Monday and getting some christmas shopping done. And getting myself a new bong they're so cheap in chinatown.
 

firsttimeARE

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Finished clones in RW thread. Good information in there. Learned that the more passes you take the wider the stems are and that if some are too tiny to take to snip them so they grow back thicker the next passing. Most of the other stuff I absorbed through Al B Faqt thread, which is supposedly a run down of topics discussed in both harvest every 2 weeks and clones in RW.

Day 4 since planted the freebies in RW and I see roots out the bottom on 6 out of 7. I'm going to wait until I get a good spray of roots until I transport unlike last time where I put them in the day I saw root tips.

Kept moisture levels perfect during this time and rootzone about 29C and air temps from 22-25C. I watered when 50-60% of their water weight had evaporated. I was pleased with how quickly it took, hopefully I can keep it up. I wanna fill the whole tray with bag seed so I can get a feel for how it'll be once I move to SOG. But figures the only time the commerical shit I buy has about 1 seed per quarter and its premie.
 

firsttimeARE

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Its been 8 days since planting them and 3 have a lot of roots sticking out the bottomand the other 4 have a decent amount. Some of the ends have a brownish white tip. I haven't been using h2o2 in my feedings but I didgive them 250ppm worth of nutes the past couple nights since I've been seeing some leafs turning whitish on the tips and in some portions like a spot or two. Dunno what it is ill post some pics soon. They're about 2 to 3 inches tall now and making great progress. Best out of all my previous RW attempts
 

Someguy15

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Not revegging them, but I will be just going with Chronic from now on. The blue cheese doesn't yield enough. I might grab some TH seeds sage too.
If your interested in the sage u might wanna check out the sage n sour. Sage blended with sour D... very good smoke the few times I've seen it around.
 

Mrgivemethatblunt

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Man sorry to hear bout ur mishaps but u live and u learn... Had my run ins with RW I eventually completely stoped using it even my E&f tables just went from clone I stoped usingtables for mothers their height becomes a problem with diff. strains which I like to do. For mothers i started using Dwc for ease but it kinda got harder but grow better i think..but sure alot more work but im tryin hempies for ease to we'll see how tht works out...but wish u the best in the future.
 

firsttimeARE

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Hell yeah, all about learning. Though I ran out of material to source. I might check out its a faqt world. Kind of looking for another persons experiences and opinions and growing style and advice, though. Or maybe i'll just reread al b faqt i'm sure i've missed some things or didn't quite understand at the time.

In about a week or so i'm going to put the seedlings in the table and keep their food at about 250ppm. Though one looks like its showing a deficiency. Pale spots between the veins on the leaf. I don't think its over watering this time as the leaves are perky and straight out if not a little pointed up. Last time growth was so slow compared to this try and the leaves were always tilted down. Temps are perfect in the dome 71 lows 77 highs overnight into today. Rootzone is about 80-85. I do notice some parts of the roots on a couple are brownish white. But I heard this is a normal part of an aging root and to worry if its slimey or smelly?

I see progress, so thats always a motivator. All and all pretty good in there. Room is dialed in, time to dial in my technique and rebuild my savings haha.
 

firsttimeARE

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Got a reflector lent to me from the nice folks at my local hydro shop to test the MH. So far I tried to fire it twice and it fired each time. Sits straight into the reflector not crooked. Definitely think it was my reflector not working with my MH. HPS is still in the old reflector and fires every try, but it also sits straight.

Grow is going so-so. Best attempt in the RW so far, plants are just under 3 inches on day 16 with tons of roots coming out the bottom... Dunno if i'm getting that fucking root rot again or if giving too much or too little nutes.

https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/500395-brown-spotting-leaf-curling-yellowing.html If you kind folks care to see the progress on them.
 

firsttimeARE

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Using Ionic nutes now. Hopefully I have better luck. Going to start the table again tomorrow.

Put together a seed list:

3 - WoS Legends - Afghan Kush Special
3 - Seedsman - Power Africa
3 - WoS Legends - Chronic Haze
5 - Barneys - Violator Kush
6 - DNA - Cataract Kush
1 - Dinafem - OG Kush
1 - WoS Med - Northern Lights x Big Bud
1 - T H Seeds - MK Ultra
1 - Delicious Seeds - Fruity Chronic Juice
1 - Eva Seeds - Veneno(Poison)
1 - G13 Labs - Blueberry Gum
1 - Emerald Triangle - Bubba 76
1 - Kannabia Seeds - Auto Hobbit
1 - Dinafem - Cheese
 

Someguy15

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Using Ionic nutes now. Hopefully I have better luck. Going to start the table again tomorrow.

Put together a seed list:

3 - WoS Legends - Afghan Kush Special
3 - Seedsman - Power Africa
3 - WoS Legends - Chronic Haze
5 - Barneys - Violator Kush
6 - DNA - Cataract Kush
1 - Dinafem - OG Kush
1 - WoS Med - Northern Lights x Big Bud
1 - T H Seeds - MK Ultra
1 - Delicious Seeds - Fruity Chronic Juice
1 - Eva Seeds - Veneno(Poison)
1 - G13 Labs - Blueberry Gum
1 - Emerald Triangle - Bubba 76
1 - Kannabia Seeds - Auto Hobbit
1 - Dinafem - Cheese
Ionic worked great for me. still veg with the stuff, flower with canna... I run the veg at half strength max usually, with my tap water it comes out around 1.2EC... start at 1/4 for rooted clones or 1/8th for seedlings.
 

firsttimeARE

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Ionic worked great for me. still veg with the stuff, flower with canna... I run the veg at half strength max usually, with my tap water it comes out around 1.2EC... start at 1/4 for rooted clones or 1/8th for seedlings.
Yeah canna is a bit pricey for me right now. They also don't stock that at my local hydro, they stock house & garden which is similar though. I was originally going to get that but the guy there talked me into the ionic cause he knows im new and doesn't want me to spend a lot of money to learn.

Have you used the PK boost from Ionic when you were using it for flowering? The guy recommended it to me, he also told me to use veg nutes up until about 3 weeks into flower. Dunno how true that is. Dude definitely knows his stuff. Was showing me pictures of his undercurrent system, says he pulls like 8-10oz per plant with only a 2.5 week veg time. Nuts. Saw pictures and it looked nuts. If I ever stop being newb i'd be interested to run that setup for mums. Like a 6 site setup

What did you find that the ionic lacked during flowering that canna brings?

Thanks for the feeding guide. The guy there told me to use 200ppm at this stage and up it slowly each week until I get a feel for what my plants need. He seemed to not want to give me a blanket statement.
 
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