Dave's 3rd Grow: Pineapple Chunk in DWC w/fogger

[lordjin]

Growing good, growing fast. I love hydro.

 

[daveroller]

Growing good, growing fast. I love hydro.

I just noticed that you've achieved Mr. Ganja status, Jin. Very impressive. Hail to the chief!

I love that photo in your signature! Is that Cali or a different model? Nice bod!

 

[lordjin]

I just noticed that you've achieved Mr. Ganja status, Jin. Very impressive. Hail to the chief!

I love that photo in your signature! Is that Cali or a different model? Nice bod!

That "Mr. Ganja" appeared quite some time ago, but thanks for noticing!

It's Cali. You have a good eye.

 

[daveroller]

I'm taking a pain management class now, starting today. They told me that I need to cut out the reefer smoking for the duration, which is about 4 weeks including a week off for xmas. Are they fucking kidding me??? I know that I won't be able to sleep tonight and have to be back at the clinic at 7:30 am. I'll try, but don't know how long I'll be able to last without my most important pain/sleep medicine = pot.

 

[Mineralz]

Coming along nicely Dave Nice work dropping that seedling farther into the netpot. I can tell she's enjoying her environment. Nice perky leaves and she is pretty wide already for being a couple weeks old...hopefully she'll do you justice Sub'd

 

[daveroller]

Coming along nicely Dave Nice work dropping that seedling farther into the netpot. I can tell she's enjoying her environment. Nice perky leaves and she is pretty wide already for being a couple weeks old...hopefully she'll do you justice Sub'd

Welcome Mineralz! Good to know that some people are watching out there. I'll try not to disappoint you.

 

[lordjin]

I'm taking a pain management class now, starting today. They told me that I need to cut out the reefer smoking for the duration, which is about 4 weeks including a week off for xmas. Are they fucking kidding me??? I know that I won't be able to sleep tonight and have to be back at the clinic at 7:30 am. I'll try, but don't know how long I'll be able to last without my most important pain/sleep medicine = pot.

What? Why would a pain management class instruct you to stop taking your medication? I certainly hope it's not because they regard cannabis as having no medicinal value.

 

[daveroller]

What? Why would a pain management class instruct you to stop taking your medication? I certainly hope it's not because they regard cannabis as having no medicinal value.

I know, it's stupid, stupid, stupid. This is conservative Minnesota... Half the doctors/nurses who I told how pot has helped me seemed to be accepting, although they couldn't say so. That's the impression I got. The other half talked like it's a bad, bad illegal drug like crack or meth. Obviously they never tried it. Kind of like virgins telling people how evil sex is. There's so much misinformation from the government that doctors believe. They need to walk a mile in my shoes. A friend of mine told me that they even piss test the patients, although I haven't heard that from the people giving the class yet.

So far I laid off the smoke last night and only got about 3 hours of sleep. Now my back pain is flaring up, so I just took some Percosets. How stupid is that??? That shit's a lot more addictive and harmful than pot is. But I want to do everything they tell me because I'm desperate to get some benefit from this class. I waited for almost a year to get into it. If it works, I might not have to take the Percosets or Tramadols anymore. Then I'll smoke to my heart's content after the last day of class. I guess I put up with more shit than some people would. Might have to smoke a little tonight, though, if the prescription stuff doesn't work. Fuck 'em if the pain gets unbearable.

 

[daveroller]

Already day 15 of veg. Hard to believe how fast the time has flown. Last night I put an airstone in the water, since the roots are dangling below the surface now. Then I set up 2 computer fans on top of the res lid to give my plant a gentle breeze to make it develop a strong main stem over time. Also put a cover over the top of the net pot to help keep the fog from leaking out the top and to help keep light out of the res.

Unfortunately, I kinked one of the main branches last night while putting the cover on. After gently pulling on the branch it looked like it was straightened back out, but it was still a little droopy after that.

I'm really impressed with the stability of the pH in the res. All the credit goes to Advanced Nutrients. Last night it was 5.6, even though I hadn't adjusted the pH since last Friday.

I'll check it again tonight when I get a chance and maybe post a few photos.

 

[daveroller]

I know, it's stupid, stupid, stupid. This is conservative Minnesota... Half the doctors/nurses who I told how pot has helped me seemed to be accepting, although they couldn't say so. That's the impression I got. The other half talked like it's a bad, bad illegal drug like crack or meth. Obviously they never tried it. Kind of like virgins telling people how evil sex is. There's so much misinformation from the government that doctors believe. They need to walk a mile in my shoes. A friend of mine told me that they even piss test the patients, although I haven't heard that from the people giving the class yet.

So far I laid off the smoke last night and only got about 3 hours of sleep. Now my back pain is flaring up, so I just took some Percosets. How stupid is that??? That shit's a lot more addictive and harmful than pot is. But I want to do everything they tell me because I'm desperate to get some benefit from this class. I waited for almost a year to get into it. If it works, I might not have to take the Percosets or Tramadols anymore. Then I'll smoke to my heart's content after the last day of class. I guess I put up with more shit than some people would. Might have to smoke a little tonight, though, if the prescription stuff doesn't work. Fuck 'em if the pain gets unbearable.

Hey Jin, you won't believe this, but I was put into a substance abuse class this morning at the pain clinic. All because I told the doctors how I self-medicate with pot. Morons! Everyone else there was either a recovering alcoholic or former meth addict, etc. I did NOT relate to their sad stories at all! They all had at one time used drugs as an emotional crutch to deal with their fucked up, dysfunctional lives. I told my case manager that I did not fit in with that group, I wouldn't be able to contribute nor could I get anything out of it. Fuckin' eh! Attitudes about pot are ludicrous here. Wish I lived in California.

 

[lordjin]

I know, it's stupid, stupid, stupid. This is conservative Minnesota... Half the doctors/nurses who I told how pot has helped me seemed to be accepting, although they couldn't say so. That's the impression I got. The other half talked like it's a bad, bad illegal drug like crack or meth. Obviously they never tried it. Kind of like virgins telling people how evil sex is. There's so much misinformation from the government that doctors believe. They need to walk a mile in my shoes. A friend of mine told me that they even piss test the patients, although I haven't heard that from the people giving the class yet.

So far I laid off the smoke last night and only got about 3 hours of sleep. Now my back pain is flaring up, so I just took some Percosets. How stupid is that??? That shit's a lot more addictive and harmful than pot is. But I want to do everything they tell me because I'm desperate to get some benefit from this class. I waited for almost a year to get into it. If it works, I might not have to take the Percosets or Tramadols anymore. Then I'll smoke to my heart's content after the last day of class. I guess I put up with more shit than some people would. Might have to smoke a little tonight, though, if the prescription stuff doesn't work. Fuck 'em if the pain gets unbearable.

Well alright. If you think it might benefit you somehow in the long run, then do what you gotta do. It pains me to hear that you had a sleepless night without ganja, tho.

Hm. That's an interesting snapshot of what it's like in a more conservative state. Amazing. It's like we live on different planets. Here in California, if you mention to someone you just met that you're a licensed cannabis patient/grower, their eyes usually light up as they tell you they're patients too. Instant friend made. It's been happening to me regualarly lately. I talk a lot of shit about LA, but it's only because I love it so much.

 

[lordjin]

Hey Jin, you won't believe this, but I was put into a substance abuse class this morning at the pain clinic. All because I told the doctors how I self-medicate with pot. Morons! Everyone else there was either a recovering alcoholic or former meth addict, etc. I did NOT relate to their sad stories at all! They all had at one time used drugs as an emotional crutch to deal with their fucked up, dysfunctional lives. I told my case manager that I did not fit in with that group, I wouldn't be able to contribute nor could I get anything out of it. Fuckin' eh! Attitudes about pot are ludicrous here. Wish I lived in California.

What? What? I mean, really... WHAT?

Leave that pain clinic immediately. You're better off medicating yourself.

 

[daveroller]

What? What? I mean, really... WHAT?

Leave that pain clinic immediately. You're better off medicating yourself.

I am a little pissed about it and offended. I'd like to think that it was the decision of one doctor who had a stick up his ass and not the whole team of medical workers. My case manager immediately took me out of the substance abuse class after I complained, so it wasn't hard to correct the situation at least. My wife thinks it was a mistake for me to tell them about my pot smoking at all, but I was shocked that educated medical professionals would have such an ignorant view of it. My opinion of them has gone way down and I have much less respect for their advice now. You're probably right that I'd be better off medicating myself. I'll see how the class goes over the next few days. BTW, this is the MAYO FUCKING CLINIC! You know, the place where kings and presidents go for treatment... I'm starting to think this class is just a money-making scam for the clinic, though. After this, I am going to smoke if I need to, but part of me wants to prove to them that pot is not addictive.

 

[daveroller]

She seems to have recovered from that kink that I accidentally made in her right branch. Good girl. Also, the pH was still almost exactly the same as yesterday, 5.6.

I don't see that white shit on the right leaf anymore. She's growing faster now that the roots are in the water, too.

Hey there, shorty. Probably not much sativa in her genes.

Here's the wire that I'm planning to use as a SCROG screen:

It's about the same spacing as tomato cage wire, but it's just a little lighter gauge maybe, and plastic coated. Luckily, we had this lying around in the garage, but I also saw a small roll at Menard's for $11.

 

[lordjin]

That's exactly the material I'm using. You're lucky. I had to buy a huge 50 dollar roll.

I should donate the remainder of my roll to another grower here. I have quite a bit. Probably enough for two or three small growers.

 

[Mineralz]

She's lookin great Dave! She should have a fat ass by the time she's done I also used that same green wire last round lulz. Popular shtuff and worked well for me...I dig the green plastic coating around the wire...plants seem to just slide right under it most of the time if they're trained far enough already so should work well for ya. Glad to hear your PH is stable as well. Once her roots hit the rez it's game-over for nonvisual growth and the usual 1-2" growth spurts a day should take over shortly after Sorry to hear bout your clinic troubles! Some peepz just dont understand good medicine when they see it I guess :/ Keep on truckin mane!

 

[daveroller]

Had a much better experience at the pain class today, so I'm happy with it now. Great speakers and group interaction. Learned a lot. There's a meditation/relaxation technique that sounds intriguing to me. They said that a study showed that it reduced pain by 40%, while morphine only reduced it by 25% on average. That's amazing. I've been practicing other relaxation methods and although I still have a lot of pain today, I felt very happy and exhilarated by the time I came home. I guess that's half the battle.

They're still wrong about pot, though. Still going cold turkey, so I'm feeling a little jittery today. Kind of like a heavy coffee drinker stopping caffeine suddenly. That's all, not too big a deal. I just don't think I should quit.

 

[daveroller]

I noticed the heat was pretty high in my cabinet tonight, 79°. But when I opened the doors the temp went down to 74 within 5 minutes. Ventilation system seems to be working ok. I put a sheet of paper up to the intake of the exhaust fan and it almost got sucked in before I caught it. And there's light coming out of the air intake to the cabinet, so it isn't blocked.

Anyone know if T5 fluorescent lights get hotter as they age?

I heard that one bad thing about T5's is that they need to be replaced periodically, because they lose their brightness. I had 2-3 full months worth of use from these veg lights. I wonder if that would cause them to also get hotter. They're a little over a year old.

I know that the res water is way warmer than I'd like it, up around 80° too. That's the downside of using a fogger. I need to buy some bottled water so I can freeze em and put some in the res now and then. That will be my manual water chiller.

Roots are getting longer and more numerous now. More root growth than leaf growth since the last photos were taken.

pH:___5.7
ppm:__520

Need to change the water (for the first time) this weekend!!!

 

[lordjin]

I am a little pissed about it and offended. I'd like to think that it was the decision of one doctor who had a stick up his ass and not the whole team of medical workers. My case manager immediately took me out of the substance abuse class after I complained, so it wasn't hard to correct the situation at least. My wife thinks it was a mistake for me to tell them about my pot smoking at all, but I was shocked that educated medical professionals would have such an ignorant view of it. My opinion of them has gone way down and I have much less respect for their advice now. You're probably right that I'd be better off medicating myself. I'll see how the class goes over the next few days. BTW, this is the MAYO FUCKING CLINIC! You know, the place where kings and presidents go for treatment... I'm starting to think this class is just a money-making scam for the clinic, though. After this, I am going to smoke if I need to, but part of me wants to prove to them that pot is not addictive.

A classic example of the medical establishment rejecting alternative, holistic, EFFECTIVE medication. Drug companies pay research grants, they get nothing from the cannabis industry. I say walk away.

 

[lordjin]

Had a much better experience at the pain class today, so I'm happy with it now. Great speakers and group interaction. Learned a lot. There's a meditation/relaxation technique that sounds intriguing to me. They said that a study showed that it reduced pain by 40%, while morphine only reduced it by 25% on average. That's amazing. I've been practicing other relaxation methods and although I still have a lot of pain today, I felt very happy and exhilarated by the time I came home. I guess that's half the battle.

They're still wrong about pot, though. Still going cold turkey, so I'm feeling a little jittery today. Kind of like a heavy coffee drinker stopping caffeine suddenly. That's all, not too big a deal. I just don't think I should quit.

Marijuana has been used as a meditative, spiritual sacrament for ages.

Alright, man. But you know if you report that they've displeased you I'm just gonna say quit. And when you say it's not so bad, then I'm just gonna say you're the best judge. So there you have it.