reasonable sense and logic left this thread a long time ago. yup, the minute the flamer crew responded to a toy drive post concerning azcs it seems that there are three factions in this thread, growers and patients who are upset with the lack of solidarity from azcs. Feel free to elaborate here because you make little or no sense. all they want is a backing from azcs to be against the 25 mile restriction, at the very least all they have to do to satisfy [ why again am I worried about "satisfying" YOU? The rest of Arizona seems quite happy with how we are doing things. us would be to come out publicly and denounce the restiction. this would not cost them any money or resources. This is where your true ignorance of how shit really works up the "hill" shows itself, cost us nothing huh? all we want is a "political" position on the issue.
then we have the club owners or operators like bill hayes and his partner. all they want is to promote their business [ blatant lie as we do NOT advertise anywhere, try again ] and avoid taking a stance against a law which will make their business more profitable in the long run by restricting the supply and allowing them to raise their prices and eliminate alternative means of getting medicine. [ I didn't write the law, and your comments show you know nothing about me personally or as a business man. I was the first one to speak up against the 25 mile rule publicly. As a potential dispensary operator/owner we moved in a manner that would help control the industry from the mom and pop side of the coin, NOT big money's. The 25 mile rule is what it is until that law is changed and you people whinning about AZCS not taking a stance simply means you have your heads to far into your comps to see us at P&Z meetings, City and Town Council Meetings. Are you there, have you ever attended one, or do you all sit behind your keyboards and talk shit about those that DO? Our facilities just happen to sit on the outskirts of the state, for a reason.
As Will Humble pointed out, "a dispensary located where there is very little population would be able to supply inner city dispensaries with their excess per the new law. So facilities in the metro area cramped for cultivation space could potentially be 'controlled' so to speak, by the larger cultivation facilities in the more rural areas of the state. These large cultivation facilities would set the pricing for the supply line to the inner city dispensaries. If a supplier was unhappy with a facility they could simply refuse them, thus self-regulating the mmj industry by the growers."
We are the largest Collective in the State, hands down, yet we have the least expensive prices in the State for smokeable meds, sometimes we are even HALF of the other "clubs" costs. HALF!! yet you half the nerve to come on a public forum and talk shit about how I am profiting?! We set the pricing standard here in Arizona that ALL other clubs are now being compared to and are being forced to lower their ridiculous pricing costs, and you question me, how dare you. What have you done?!
lastly we have a few nut suckers who cant seem to unmount from the huge azcs dick they have lodged up their ass. these people probaly work for azcs which would be understandable. or they are just devout followers or members of this collective and vehemently defend this shit club because they are brainwashed, ignorant, or just plain stupid.
this has created a huge divide here and no one seems to want to concede. all the growers [ yup, all the "growers" as if you few represent the masses in any way. We have done more for growers here in Arizona than anyone. We were the first group to have clones available, the first group to offer in home consulting and room design/construction, the first to become authorized to distribute seeds, and the first group in Arizona to have any type of program like "Tops for Tots" whihc is clearly geared towards growers, NOT our own collective members. If anyone is on a high horse around here I would say its you few that are "demanding" a "stance" from AZCS about a law that is already in the books. Regarding the "brainwashed, ignorant, or just stupid 1000+ Collective members we assist, I thinkn I speak for all of them when I see "eat shit"! We have volunteer staff that just happen to moonlight as major university professors here in Arizona, microbiologists, biological paleontologist, an instructor from the American Society of Plant Physiologists, biochemistry, biochemistry & molecular biology engineers. Some hail from the nations leading agricultural institutions and you call them ignorant or just plain stupid? What exactly do you do again to criticize them? ] are asking is an agreement from azcs that the 25 mile restriction is negative and should be changed. i have yet to read or hear anywhere that this is the case. Take a look around every now and then all i hear are excuses [only from you pesky RIU folks, we work with logic and factual resources that disprove every word you type, yet you continue.] with the argument that "they should not be responsible for this" can someone tell me again how we are responsible for it?? ] or "the 25 mile rule is not bad for patients." we have never said we agree with it, not once, and if you took the time to look or perhaps a few minutes with google you'd already know that, but you don't, cause your lazy, and ignorant, mostly by choice it would seem.
ALL WE WANT IS AZCS TO COME OUT PUBLICLY AND SAY THEY ARE AGAINST THE 25 MILE RESTRICTION AND THEY WILL STAND BEHIND ANY MEANS TO CHANGE IT. WE DONT NEED THEM TO DO ANYTHING ELSE JUST SUPPORT EFFORT TO CHANGE THE LAW. you don't NEED anything else from AZCS because you know what type of "pull" we do have regarding the legal system here in Arizona as well as anything regarding mmj here. Hence the reason we as well as our Collective membership gets a little crispy when people talk shit about us like you all have done, yet you say you only want our help, funny way of getting it if you ask me.
they dont have to pay for anything or work on any ballot initiative, or provide any lawyer help all this is being done. all we want is their support and a statement letting patients and growers know that they support a repeal of the restriction. if they cant do this then that shows their true motives and the fact that they only care about their patients money and continued cultivation rights. Oh yeah and these are sooooo important right now huh, cause we can sell all the excess to other dispensaries here in Arizona RIGHT?!?! S T U P I D A S S !! We don't even make patients assign us as their "legal" caregivers through DHS because I have a feeling those cards will be useless soon, so why would I instruct anyone to do something I myself would not do? We are a Collective or Cooperative cultivation organization. When and IF the dispensary ap's ever get released we will smoothly and flawlessly transition into a dispensary, because its the same business model we have now! We aren't the spot lookin to be Burger King of weed in Arizona, we just want to help sick people and we want to keep things FAIR here in AZ! That is exactly what we have done so far! this is not an outrageous demand and would not cost azcs anything. please tell us why this would be such a big deal for them.
