Grabed 5 clones, first gow just.. want some input :)

[kohd]

so, lijke the title says i just grab'd clones off my buddy, there doing prity well ive had them for a week now. now ive grown before but no success , like used insufficient light and such.. odviously no success with that >.<.. so over the last ear ive grab'd myself some equipment and trying my hand at some "proper" equipment.

im growing my babies in my closet under a 400W MH bulb with a regular hood, and have a 1000W HPS for buddinng, i grab'd some "Plant prod" from walmart :/, its 20-20-20 for veg tho , :/ was kinda wondering on that so i havnt used it yet, was wondering if anyones used it before, and if so how much do i feed? , i grabed flowering stuff too 15-30-15 they were like 20 bux , its not top grade but will it work?.. my dimentions are 32" wide X 39" long x7' tall.. my light is exactly 1 meter above my buckets (5 gallon *mushroom* buckets from the local pizza joint.. no worries there washed out )

i have taken the time to name them so if posible can u give a name if u have any advice? the one n the back left is "blaze", the tall one is "haily" the one in the back right is "jane", the one on the front right is "mary" *who looks like she was grown from seed to me ut idk how to tell >.<* and the little one u cant realy see is "grim".. she fell in transport and had some major stress isues, but seems to be recovering after i cut two leaves off and "half cut" 2 more, i have some browning tips on haily and blaze, thee is a picture of what they look like, should i cut these leaves? or leave them.. and is it chemical burn? i furtilized the dirt i had for them the night before i transplanted and havnt feed since ( 5 days ago)

i also have 3 point leaves on mary *pics attached* that are curling, should i cut these aswell or leave them?

 

[kohd]

P.S. i apologize for the quality of these pictures, i had to use my cell phone to take them :/. and the spelling lol, my keyboards batterys are dieing >.<

 

[roidrage152]

Best advice I can give is resist the excitement of the plants and don't be afraid to do too little. Water thoroughly when needed, then don't water again until the soil is almost completely dry. Go very easy on the nutes, since your friend is already growing this strain maybe he can give u advice on how much they like. Some strains can tolerate a lot more than others. It's way easier to add some nutes if u see a deficiency than it is to deal with over fertilized. Go easy on the trimming. I personally wouldn't cut off anything until you get to an airflow issue, which is weeks away. Leave the brown stuff, it gives you an idea of what kinda stuff is going wrong when it happens. For what's wrong with your babies I'm leaning toward burn almost forsure. Also maybe a little droopy from too much water. They are probably big enough now where too much light shouldn't be an issue, just watch the heat.

 

[kohd]

thanks alot the advice it helps .. i was thinking chem burn but wasnt sure, he was also using a different food to so im gonna flush them out and try feeding again, there on 16 hours of light for now but i was also wondering whens a good time to start droping the light ours, i was thinking maby 1.5 months veg then slowly drop down from 16 taking 30 mins off every 2 days till its at 12 but im not to sure on that step as ive never had success indoors

ps, whats a good temp? and ive tried to tak it down a lil,ive got light escaping my closet and my neighbors can see in if i dont have a blanket covering most of the gaping, any ideas? , ive got a little 20 dollar "canadian tire special" turbo fan on high blowing air out, i had it blowing in but it wasnt cooling down.. the 41 is up by the hood >.< forgot to mention that btw lol , the 31 is down on the floor beside the buckets, its avragely dry in my closet, 19-24%, should i invest in a humidifier?, so many questions lol all advice is great toho thanks guys

 

[kohd]

any advice out there?

 

[WattSaver]

If the reading on your thermometer is correct (44.7 C) that's way to hot. (112 F) you should never exceed 32 C (90 F)

 

[frettfreak]

and really, i wouldnt go to 90f unless you were supplementing with CO2. 75-80f and you should be good. Also, not a HUGE concern, but the general concensus is you want a little higher humidity in veg (close to 60-70 if you can get it there). 20 is a bit low in my opinion.

Other things that you may consider to assist in this would be a soil ph meter and a moisture meter, but really, they are just helpful tool and not absolutely necessary.

I think the biggest advice i could give would be to make sure your PH is right with the nutrient solution going in and you will save yourself a lot of problems.

Good advice from roidrage too... dont be afraid to do too little!! Less is more. Its a lot easier to add a little more of something than it is to take it out once its in the soil already!

 

[potpimp]

My first thoughts were nute burn and heat stress. I didn't click on the temp but I can spot heat stress. If you can have the plants at around 70, they do best at that. Great advice from everyone posting.

 

[roidrage152]

Obviously you want to try to dial in as well as you can, but I wouldn't worry too much about spending extra money on micro managing this. Ideal temps will maximize your overall potential but for example, improving your temperature with a couple hundred bucks on an AC, plus the electric to run it is not going to increase your yield enough to offset the cost of using it in any kind of reasonable amount of time. Same idea with humidity, unless you have a humidifier collecting dust under the bathroom sink, I wouldnt worry about it. For temps, I think your babies will do fine in anything from 15-30C. Lower humidity can be offset with some misting with a spray bottle, just don't over do it, you want a light mist on the leaves, not a soggy mess weighing down branches. My best quick fix for light leaking out door cracks is same as what you are doing, blanket/tarp/curtain hung over the closed door. Veg until the plant is a size where you are comfortable with the size doubling. In regards to the light step down method, never tried it myself. Always just flipped from 24 hour light to 12/12.

 

[lime73]

I think the biggest advice i could give would be to make sure your PH is right with the nutrient solution going in and you will save yourself a lot of problems.

so true...

 

[PJ Diaz]

Like the others have said, you really need to get ahold of your temps. If you have temps that high with just a 400w light, they are gonna be off the charts with a 1000w, and everything will simply die. Also, one meter is way too far away from the plants with a 400w light. You should be between 8 and 16 inches away with a 400w.

 

[doggettsimpson]

nute burn was my concern also. standards ferts like a 20-20-20 are fine in general, but they are not all same and nutrient quality varies considerably. but you can be much more effective feeding your plant according to it stages of growth. mycorrhizae is a very effective soil additive that can effectively double your root mass and increase nutrient uptake, making your plant healthier throughout it's growth cycle. once your plant is stable, a fertilizer with a higher nitrogen N-P-K (20-5-10) with promote the plants vegetative growth. similarly, when the plant starts it's flowering stage, a higher phosphate N-P-K (10-30-10) will help promote bud growth. this is pretty basic knowledge, but finding these ferts with quality nutrients, the proper trace elements, as well as an appropriate amount of magnesium, which cannabis plants love, is more challenging. And, as always, allow sufficient time to flush your plants before cutting to ensure a quality smoke. Sound advice from other posters as well. Good luck and get growing.

 

[kohd]

hey, thanks for the advice guys , im trying to get a grip on my temp, but i cant seem to get it below 28 degrees, usualy runs at 32 and thats with a brease coming in the window, not much more i can do on that one :/ its just hot .. as for humidity ive been misting daily since day one , so they should be okay, the ladys have been around for about a week now and seem to be healthy, some like the heat more then others, and i cant bring the light much lower then that due to heat :/, the nutes i havnt used since i noticed chem burns so if i do decide to use them again it will be in VERY minute doses, anyways thanks for the tips guys will have pics up soon hopefully ;D

P.S. the 44 degree temp is right next to the light hood so i kno how hot the air up top my closet is, i usualy use it to judge how open my window should be aprox. for cooler temps when the lights on

 

[bud nugbong]

start a little notebook or calender journal type of thing. to keep track of when you feed and water. usually overfeeding happens because you cant remember the last time you fed or how much you fed. i find it alot easier to keep track and trouble shoot.

 

[kohd]

Thanks for the help guys, started 12/12 light today, 1000W hps, there a little small but they need to gt outa my house .. keeping a log book tho and it deffinently helped alot when thinking back, post pics soon

 

[kohd]

hey guys, idk if anyones kickin around on this thread any more but as promised i have more pictures , its not 3 weeks later and day 8 of budding, input? ;D.. i rotate my light every cupple days due to heat

 

[kohd]

anyone still reading this thead? ...

 

[kohd]

any input from anyone? all is good