Greatest Player in NFL History?

GreatwhiteNorth

GreatwhiteNorth

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The Zonk gets my nod.
A hellofa guy and good friend to boot.

Larry Csonka - Syracuse All-America, 1967 ... No. 1 draft pick, 1968 ... Powerhouse runner, excellent blocker, receiver ... Only 21 fumbles in 1,891 carries ... Surpassed 1000 yards rushing three seasons ... Four-time All-AFC, picked for five Pro Bowls ... All-Pro 1971, 1972, 1973 ... MVP in Super Bowl VIII ... Made great comeback with 1979 Dolphins ... Career stats: 8,081 yards rushing, 106 receptions, 68 touchdowns ... Born December 25, 1946, in Stow, OhioCsonka_Larry_Action_180-220.jpg
 
bud nugbong

bud nugbong

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Barry sanders, just because he had nobody around him. to be that amazing with a team like that is outrageous.
 
Sunbiz1

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cph said:
no not really, he played football on both sides of the ball and baseball from high school until he was in his 40s. Not outrunning people but running them over.
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I looked all over for Thorpe footage, could find none.
 
Sunbiz1

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
The Zonk gets my nod.
A hellofa guy and good friend to boot.

Larry Csonka - Syracuse All-America, 1967 ... No. 1 draft pick, 1968 ... Powerhouse runner, excellent blocker, receiver ... Only 21 fumbles in 1,891 carries ... Surpassed 1000 yards rushing three seasons ... Four-time All-AFC, picked for five Pro Bowls ... All-Pro 1971, 1972, 1973 ... MVP in Super Bowl VIII ... Made great comeback with 1979 Dolphins ... Career stats: 8,081 yards rushing, 106 receptions, 68 touchdowns ... Born December 25, 1946, in Stow, OhioView attachment 1936448
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No fair...when you know someone personally you lose objectivity.
 
Sunbiz1

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After further review, I came up with my own list. There are many honorable mentions not included. What amazes me is how the NFL seemed to have overlooked Baugh in their top 100 list 2 years ago. Michael Irvin put E. Smith in his top 5...gee I wonder why. I also added some cool footage, any thoughts on who or who should not have been included?.

1. Sammy Baugh
2. Jerry Rice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZZw7yKpenU&feature=related
3. Walter Payton
4. Jim Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cCXNBeVfc
5. Deacon Jones
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80748354/Top-Ten-Pass-Rushers-David-Deacon-Jones
6. Joe Montana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iNeuKQyRCY&feature=related
7. Reggie White
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeUKvFYM-iI&feature=related
8. Dick Butkus
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d811185e0/Top-Ten-Most-Feared-Tacklers-Dick-Butkus
9. LT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxppgTXECK4&feature=related
10. Anthony Munoz
I had to include an OT here b/c they never get any credit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWPUZNA8Eo
 
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boneheadbob

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
The Zonk gets my nod.
A hellofa guy and good friend to boot.

Larry Csonka - Syracuse All-America, 1967 ... No. 1 draft pick, 1968 ... Powerhouse runner, excellent blocker, receiver ... Only 21 fumbles in 1,891 carries ... Surpassed 1000 yards rushing three seasons ... Four-time All-AFC, picked for five Pro Bowls ... All-Pro 1971, 1972, 1973 ... MVP in Super Bowl VIII ... Made great comeback with 1979 Dolphins ... Career stats: 8,081 yards rushing, 106 receptions, 68 touchdowns ... Born December 25, 1946, in Stow, OhioView attachment 1936448
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I went to 5th grade - high school (67 -75) with Harry Kiick, Jims nephew
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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boneheadbob said:
I went to 5th grade - high school (67 -75) with Harry Kiick, Jims nephew
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Zonk's son Paul worked for me 1996/1997 and his nephew from 1997 to 2000.
Met him first time @ a benefit BB game here in Alaska in 96, and he still carry's a very imposing physical presence.
 
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boneheadbob

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I would take Brady for the big game over Manning
Heres my choice for the BIG GAME

Montana at QB
RB could be anyone of a dozen A quick, shifty runner like Barry Sanders or maybe OJ at his prime. I would pass on Slinging Sammy and maybe even Jim Brown.
They might not be heads and shoulders above all the others in todays game.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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boneheadbob said:
I would take Brady for the big game over Manning
Heres my choice for the BIG GAME

Montana at QB
RB could be anyone of a dozen A quick, shifty runner like Barry Sanders or maybe OJ at his prime. I would pass on Slinging Sammy and maybe even Jim Brown.
They might not be heads and shoulders above all the others in todays game.
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Would the Pats be winless had Brady gone down?.
 
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Sunbiz1 said:
I'd put Manning well ahead of Brady.
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Im on the edge with that lol.

My friend said some funny shit about peyton the other day......He said peyton should be crowned MVP this season for how much he means to that colts team.Look at there record without him.
 
Sunbiz1

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Im on the edge with that lol.

My friend said some funny shit about peyton the other day......He said peyton should be crowned MVP this season for how much he means to that colts team.Look at there record without him.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU6tvnkkBNI&feature=related

The Patriots would still be a respectable ball club w/o Brady, maybe even .500. But to not win a game b/c you lose one player is a testament to how good he was/is.
 
Brick Top

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To much emphasis is being put on offensive players, and in particular quarterbacks, running backs and wide receivers given the topic is the "Greatest Player In NFL History."

Those guys get the glory, but if not for a solid front line doing their jobs extremely well and a tight end or blocking back throwing a great down field block allowing a wide receiver or running back to break free, those glory position players would not get much glory. And almost every player who plays on the opposite side of the ball is being ignored and their contributions minimized.

As powerful of an offense as some winning teams have had very few will be truly great teams and win it all and be dominant in the league for some period of time without a dominating defense with at least one or two true game-changing standouts on it.

They keep the other teams offense on the bench much of the game giving their teams offense and glory players more and more opportunities to attempt to pull off big plays and rack up points. But without their heroic efforts it would be their teams offense on the sideline watching the game rather than their opponents offense on the sideline watching the game.
 
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