Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

[lordjin]

Well done! They sure look ready to me for the sativa effect. Couch lock, which is my preference would be best 60 to 70 days. I would chop now to 55 days for a up soaring high man. That shit makes me paranoid, so I prefer the mellow effects heh. I let mine go 67 days. Do what you please and your preference after all it is your plant. Yes, I agree they will swell and yeild more after 60 days. You don't like the couch lock effects so you will be better off choping a bit early. Again well done!!! I am going to try your hydro method after my Hempy vs air pots comparsion. I will start a Journal on that in a few weeks.

Much love. Yeah, as I mentioned before, I loathe couchlock. I really like the option of getting up and moving around. Lol. Besides, after a good long cure, a heavy narcotic effect always settles in.

Hands up, I am NUTS!!!!!! lol.

Your approval means the world to me.

Edit:
Oh, it wasn't an approval! Ha ha!

 

[DST]

I am kind of more with inhaleindica on the effect. Only reason I say I am nuts and would leave it longer, the DOG that I took down slightly earlier is great, but I miss the added narc effect it usually gives, not saying it's not there, just not in the same bountiful amounts. I know a lot of people base efforts on trichs but having seen plants mature and some produce more amber trichs than others even when finished, I think each strain has a unique finishing "look" to it. In your pics I still see some shiney reflections in some of the bulbous heads which to me means they are still clear. This may change over the coming days anyway so it's just an anal observation more than anything. Anyway, it's a stellar grow for sure and I agree, it's hard to find anything that beats a good OG in the morish effect, taste, and general hard nugginess (made up word) of the strain. I would like to have seen the canopy with lights out?? And some more bud shots with lights out? just a wee request eh....

 

[jigfresh]

I would like to have seen the canopy with lights out?? And some more bud shots with lights out? just a wee request eh....

I would love to see the same thing. The plants really do have a finished look when they are 'ready'. With buds as nice as yours I don't really think you can go too wrong. Either way, I'm with you in the effect preference. I'd rather be more on the sativa side where I can actually do shit, rather than take naps.

Good work as always chief.

 

[DST]

Green leaves till I die....(well apart from all the damaged ones due to sloppycuntyness below)

DOG kush on same amount of 12iness as Jins Tahoe. Vegged for 1 week after cloning and repotted, training mainly done in flower stretch, you will notice the difference naturally in the scrog, (haha). This scrog the apical dominance is spread around the buds delivering an even amount of auxins across flower sites. Auxins for those who are unaware are the important hormones that determine plant development, this is a learning thread so I should really say something intelligent from time to time. The flowers themselves do not grow new branches like Jigs due to no veg time and the stretch being taken up to train), so they just grow fat and even. Grown in a 11litre (2 and a bit galon) pot.
As you can see, I am a sloppy git, I underestimated what was left in the pot from the previous run* and overfed a tad in the begin, and spilled shit everywhere, they also get a bit of run off from the plants upstairs, lol fukkin neighbours eh! always crappin on ya from above, thats why I bought a Penthouse Apartment!

My friend who owns the Grey Area (best coffeeshop in Amsterdam, only American owned one, I too give credit where's credits due!) he told me someone came in the other day to his shop and asked him, "you guys have something to do with that Snoop DOG kush", lmfao, as was he. It's Divit OG (DOG) buddy, get it right! Geezo!

EDIT: *I meant to add, I am running things a bit different, I have got a few plants that I have potted into pots that have been recently harvested, with just the top plant being snipped of, the top roots removed and the plant plonked into the space and topped off with some more compost/coco. (i.e not touching the existing root system below and bio system that is set up with mycorrhizae.) TThese bio systems I am told remain active for a small while and if a new plant is potted they will rush to the new root system and start to create that great symbiotic relationship again, pumping your new plant with power!

 

[lordjin]

I am kind of more with inhaleindica on the effect. Only reason I say I am nuts and would leave it longer, the DOG that I took down slightly earlier is great, but I miss the added narc effect it usually gives, not saying it's not there, just not in the same bountiful amounts. I know a lot of people base efforts on trichs but having seen plants mature and some produce more amber trichs than others even when finished, I think each strain has a unique finishing "look" to it. In your pics I still see some shiney reflections in some of the bulbous heads which to me means they are still clear. This may change over the coming days anyway so it's just an anal observation more than anything. Anyway, it's a stellar grow for sure and I agree, it's hard to find anything that beats a good OG in the morish effect, taste, and general hard nugginess (made up word) of the strain. I would like to have seen the canopy with lights out?? And some more bud shots with lights out? just a wee request eh....

I would love to see the same thing. The plants really do have a finished look when they are 'ready'. With buds as nice as yours I don't really think you can go too wrong. Either way, I'm with you in the effect preference. I'd rather be more on the sativa side where I can actually do shit, rather than take naps.

Good work as always chief.

Alright, Toys and Girls... Twist my arm, why dontcha? You say 50 too short, I say 60 too long. Let's split the difference and call it at day 55. I'll wait until the start of my Xmas break to harvest like Cheezemuscle suggested. Geeeeez. Lol.

 

[lordjin]

Green leaves till I die....(well apart from all the damaged ones due to sloppycuntyness below)

DOG kush on same amount of 12iness as Jins Tahoe. Vegged for 1 week after cloning and repotted, training mainly done in flower stretch, you will notice the difference naturally in the scrog, (haha). This scrog the apical dominance is spread around the buds delivering an even amount of auxins across flower sites. Auxins for those who are unaware are the important hormones that determine plant development, this is a learning thread so I should really say something intelligent from time to time. The flowers themselves do not grow new branches like Jigs due to no veg time and the stretch being taken up to train), so they just grow fat and even. Grown in a 11litre (2 and a bit galon) pot.
As you can see, I am a sloppy git, I underestimated what was left in the pot from the previous run* and overfed a tad in the begin, and spilled shit everywhere, they also get a bit of run off from the plants upstairs, lol fukkin neighbours eh! always crappin on ya from above, thats why I bought a Penthouse Apartment!

My friend who owns the Grey Area (best coffeeshop in Amsterdam, only American owned one, I too give credit where's credits due!) he told me someone came in the other day to his shop and asked him, "you guys have something to do with that Snoop DOG kush", lmfao, as was he. It's Divit OG (DOG) buddy, get it right! Geezo!

EDIT: *I meant to add, I am running things a bit different, I have got a few plants that I have potted into pots that have been recently harvested, with just the top plant being snipped of, the top roots removed and the plant plonked into the space and topped off with some more compost/coco. (i.e not touching the existing root system below and bio system that is set up with mycorrhizae.) TThese bio systems I am told remain active for a small while and if a new plant is potted they will rush to the new root system and start to create that great symbiotic relationship again, pumping your new plant with power!

Dude, your shit does well at the clubs because that's legit OG. That would be in demand right here in LA too.

That's a beautiful little scrog. I'm beginning to appreciate more and more the 'micro-tree' concept as shown by many skilled 12/12 from start lollipoppers and such. The small, compact trained grow is something a little different I think. I've been making my rounds recently in yet another soil vs. hydro thread, and I can't remember what exactly I said there, but it was a lot of hot wind I'm sure (lol). But lookie here, that there little soil scrog is bomb weed in slightly different ways than a hydro beast like mine. I would love to sample that somehow... For a swap of LA's finest of course.

great job. Thanks for sharing as always, DST.

Edit:
I'll try to get some 'normal light' shots, but my lights out is 4am, so I'm gonna have to pull an all nighter. Not promising anything.

Edit 2:
That actually looks even a little more done than mine.

 

[323cheezy]

Job well done lordjin...
I think you inspire me in many ways...
Never have i grown such monsters of such proportions ... after all these years ...
And i have to give u a thumbs up...

That being said ..
Since the year has begun .... ive tooken on over 20 different clones ...
Out of the 20 about 9 were eventualy infected by pm...among other problems...

Once i see pm i deem my grow as a complete failure..
But thats me ...my setup just isnt that ideal for fall and winter seasons..

even if i do get some spotfree nugs from it...
you saw my bubba ....(but it was a pm hore kinda....with a great pm trim job)

Its easy to keep pm dormant throughout veg ... and even if u think the pm is compleately gone...
One surviving mold spore will be able to multiply eventually through the mid and late phazes of flowering..

Never once have i seen a plant that showed one spot of pm during the late peaks of veg and early flowering period ... Compleatly be free of pm throughout the remander of its life ...
Meaning no mater what spray of technique you use to destroy it ...it can survive at below 30relative humidity .... prevention is key (am i preaching to the quire?)
Itll just hide and survive without multipling until it conditions are fit again... it justs keeps coming ....
It can sneek bye and usually chosses to start developing at about 3 weeks in flower ...
And will tend to move under buds and spot unreached by sprays very late in flower.....
under your eyes...

Ive had two pm free grows this years ..but theses last two were doomed... especialy my current one...
when i look at pics on a good cam especially in dark light.. my eyes tend to look past the beautiful trichs and just focus on the mold spots... ive really hate pm more than anything else..

All in all jinny ... you did great ...id say 9 out 10 ... since you did such a great job keeping your pm at bay ...
It almost pains me to say anything negative about your grow...but hey u know i always like to give u shit...especially about your diablos....

dont hate me ....

 

[lordjin]

I don't agree when you say first sign of PM is a failed grow. OG Kush just comes with PM. There's nothing we can really do about it but control it. I see it as normal. And yes! Look how clean they were in veg. I wasn't fooled, though. As soon as those buds started ripping out, I knew I'd see that white fuzz we all hate so much.

I would say the Serenade has kept the PM 95% out of the picture. Probably more like 97% if I feel like being generous. It wasn't easy, though. Every so often, I would have to slap on the latex gloves and dive in head first. You really have to bend the branches down and pry open those densely packed bud leaves to spray in between and under those tightly clustered little leaves. The PM, as you know, loves to form on those little crystal covered bud leaves, making it really hard to spot sometimes. Again, you gotta put on rubber glovers and pry those buds open with your fingers and spray them point blank with serenade. EVERY SINGLE BUD. So can you imagine the work I put in my grow? Examining and srpraying every fucking bud? Yeah, that's love.

Serenade is awesome. The bottle recommends waiting seven days between heavy, full soak treatments, but you can do smaller touch up treatments as you spot little areas of mildew pop up. It doesn't hurt your buds. I would advise any grower to use it instead of an oil based product. One shouldn't group Serenade in with Neem. You can spray it on your buds and under your lights... Unlike Neem which behaves like the blood from the Alien movies under your lights.

Yeah, the PM is under control... even in the lower buds where it's normally worst. I periodically spot check them between sprayings. It looked pretty good last night, but if I let them go five more days, I need to get more Serenade. I used the whole bottle already. So that should give you an idea of the battle that's been going on behind the scenes. See everyone? I have to work for it. Just like you.

Edit:
I also saw this Youtube video a of guy giving a tutorial on an H202 post-harvest wash for PM infested bud. He just had a bin of a couple of gallons of fresh water, threw in a butload of regular 3%, and soaked the entire PM covered branch. The shit just comes right off and floats to the top of the solution. But you have to immediately fan dry the moisture from this bath before hanging in your dry area.

In my worst cases, I simply blow the small traces of PM off the bud leaves and it flies right off. But remember also that my plants have greater resilience due to my robust environment.

 

[323cheezy]

Ya man no doubt ...id smoke all that shit....
Just this week i tell u... i probly sprayed every dam leaf on myplants daily ... sometimes more than once a day..
Its a hectic schedule..and i know its effecting my leaves health kinda...
I use neem, then sns, then peroxide, then copper soap.. and after all that i wash them off with water...
So i know exactly how it is... i dont use them all the same day ...its like one one day and then another the next ..
But your palnts are twise as good as mine at the moment....
dont get me wrong bro....



No fair bro ...u edited after a responce ...back to the future...lol

All im saying is ive had pm free og grows... and its not a a garuntee...
Its just looks way better with no sprays n stuff... even if u keep the mold off the buds....
Imagine how dank your tahoes would look with 0 pm....

im just saying sprays kill pm the surface brah... but your still gonna get good smoke ...
garunteed...

I know you will keep it 100 next round...

the number one killer n my garden is heat .... pm hates heat ...

 

[323cheezy]

Well i can say for sure you grew out tahoe way better than i did....
My first mistake was vegging it next to blue larry a blue dream haze dominant plant...
As we know tahoe grows slowly ... and takes time to veg ...and requires low stress training....
Should never be put next to a non og ....
But i let it flower after 20 days in veg without topping or scrogging...
I really shoulda just grew 3 tahoes side by side... maybe i will someday ..
I dont think my tahoes ever really triched up on my leaves much ... just the symptoms of a very samll amount of foilage and no stress traing ...

look how skinny it was ..

and i heat stressed the top leaves...

I think we all know who grows tahoe better...
jin of coarse..

 

[lordjin]

That still looks pretty frosty. Love how you got in so close that the trichs look like little light bulbs.

This Tahoe cut is a crystal bitch. I love a heavy trichome producer. It makes for a good show picture-wise too.

Well what are you doing for New Year's Eve? Even with my five day extension, they'll be somekable by then. Yeah, that's how I'm gonna ring in the New Year. Getting high on my grow.

But I'm not gonna let you get away without a head to head comparison between your Tahoe and mine. Despite all you said, I don't consider it a guaranteed victory.

 

[lordjin]

Looks like he burned his leaves a little getting them that fat.

 

[323cheezy]

no fair ...the other pic is at day 70....

Hey jin ill come over anyday man ...just tell me when ... but it has too be early i work at night...

not fair for you....
I think those leaves are just naturally dying.... i like seeing the leaves dye kinda....
Yours will look way better in a few days id imagine....

 

[lordjin]

no fair ...the other pic is at day 70....

Hey jin ill come over anyday man ...just tell me when ... but it has too be early i work at night...

No fair for him or for me? I'm only at day 48! That day 70 Tahoe looks awesome... But look at how his leaves look almost as bad as my Diablo leaves. That's muscle chicken. And way over-ripe. If you smoke that shit, you can kiss the rest of your day goodbye.

 

[SweetestCheeba]

No fair for him or for me? I'm only at day 48! That day 70 Tahoe looks awesome... But look at how his leaves look almost as bad as my Diablo leaves. That's muscle chicken. And way over-ripe. If you smoke that shit, you can kiss the rest of your day goodbye.

Thats the shit i need lol

 

[lordjin]

Thats the shit i need lol

Not me. I got things to do... worlds to conquer.

 

[lordjin]

Sac area peeps! Hurry!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/14/magnolia-wellness-center-orangevale_n_1148754.html?ref=marijuana
Oh, BTW. Femcult is coming.

 

[SweetestCheeba]

Man i sit behind a desk for 6 1/2 hrsand on saturday i work 12 hr shifts doin nothing but watchin monitors, i need some knock out

 

[lordjin]

Man i sit behind a desk for 6 1/2 hrsand on saturday i work 12 hr shifts doin nothing but watchin monitors, i need some knock out

I need the knockout at night when i put the jammies on. I've been using Herojuana for that lately. My daytime weed has been the Tahoe. It's working pretty well. It's best to find a good up/down OG combo. Uh... you're not an air traffic controller by any chance, are you? Lol.

 

[SweetestCheeba]

I need the knockout at night when i put the jammies on. I've been using Herojuana for that lately. My daytime weed has been the Tahoe. It's working pretty well. It's best to find a good up/down OG combo. Uh... you're not an air traffic controller by any chance, are you? Lol.

Naw im a security guard, but at one point in time i was really considering joing the FAA for a job