Goodbye Bill of Rights, Obama Signs NDAA

PeyoteReligion

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You're the exact kind of person who would let the holocaust happen under their nose and do nothing. Congrats, you're a winner.
Why are you insulting everyone that doesnt agree with you? Carne is native American, with what happend to his people I dont think he is the type of person to "let the holocaust happen under his nose". Don't be so ignorant.
 

Carne Seca

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Why are you insulting everyone that doesnt agree with you? Carne is native American, with what happend to his people I dont think he is the type of person to "let the holocaust happen under his nose". Don't be so ignorant.
I think he needs to read Ether 8:23-26 to understand what my responsibilities are as a Mormon. The best cure for ignorance is knowledge. As for being 1/4 Native American I would die to stop something like that from happening again. No matter who the victims are.

Why are you insulting everyone that doesnt agree with you? Carne is native American, with what happend to his people I dont think he is the type of person to "let the holocaust happen under his nose". Don't be so ignorant.
I think he needs to read Ether 8:23-26 to understand what my responsibilities are as a Mormon. The best cure for ignorance is knowledge. As for being 1/4 Native American I would die to stop something like that from happening again. No matter who the victims are.

As for my fellow LDS members I would like them to read these passages. Look at what's going on in this nation and then think of these verses:

18 And it came to pass that they formed a secret combination, even as they of old; which combination is most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God;

19 For the Lord worketh not in secret combinations, neither doth he will that man should shed blood, but in all things hath forbidden it, from the beginning of man.

20 And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites.

21 And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.

22 And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.

23 Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain—and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.

24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Why are you insulting everyone that doesnt agree with you? Carne is native American, with what happend to his people I dont think he is the type of person to "let the holocaust happen under his nose". Don't be so ignorant.
And yet here he is, saying the Enabling Act (aka: NDAA), doesn't do exactly what it explicity says it does and what the people who wrote it say it does because he's so deeply in denial. The Enabling Act is what allowed Hitler to do many of the things he did. I imagine an identical thing happened to many people in Germany in terms of denial. I know lots of folks who aren't willing to excuse such behavior from the Germans, I am one of them. I also don't excuse it from American's either. He may find it insulting, but it's the god damn truth and if you don't wake up soon it's all over. And that's just the reality. I deal in facts, he deals in fantasy and calls me and others who see the writing plainly on the wall crazy (which apparently you don't think is an insult, gg double standards, maybe you're another good little German?? Er American?).

I don't see what his being native American has to do with anything at all unless you think Native American's are so different from the rest of us. There are many people who prefer to live in denial as long as they have food in their bellies and a roof over their head. All great Tyrants have counted on this fact. Folks like him and UB (who apparently, also isn't insulting in your opinion? He made a thread entitled Ron Paul: Turtle Fucker or not?) are poison to those trying to fight against tyranny. And maybe he's insulted, but I don't give a shit. I call em like I see em and I don't take insults lying down.
 

Dan Kone

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looks like i better quit my side gig of substantially supporting terrorist networks.

darn :cuss:

oh, and also, we're all going to die (or insert hyperbole and paranoid delusion of your choice here).
This isn't paranoia. This is for real.

This law allows US citizens to be thrown in prison for life without charges, a trial, or even evidence if the president declares them a terrorist. There is no set qualification for what a terrorist is beyond the president calling them a terrorist. This is one of those laws that could lead to the end of democracy as we know it. This is a very real threat.
 

Coals

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And yet here he is, saying the Enabling Act (aka: NDAA), doesn't do exactly what it explicity says it does and what the people who wrote it say it does because he's so deeply in denial. The Enabling Act is what allowed Hitler to do many of the things he did. I imagine an identical thing happened to many people in Germany in terms of denial. I know lots of folks who aren't willing to excuse such behavior from the Germans, I am one of them. I also don't excuse it from American's either. He may find it insulting, but it's the god damn truth and if you don't wake up soon it's all over. And that's just the reality. I deal in facts, he deals in fantasy and calls me and others who see the writing plainly on the wall crazy (which apparently you don't think is an insult, gg double standards, maybe you're another good little German?? Er American?).

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I don't see what his being native American has to do with anything at all unless you think Native American's are so different from the rest of us. There are many people who prefer to live in denial as long as they have food in their bellies and a roof over their head. All great Tyrants have counted on this fact. Folks like him and UB (who apparently, also isn't insulting in your opinion? He made a thread entitled Ron Paul: Turtle Fucker or not?) are poison to those trying to fight against tyranny. And maybe he's insulted, but I don't give a shit. I call em like I see em and I don't take insults lying down.
Please shutup. Your asshole attitude isn't going to get you anywhere here.

The Turtle Fucking is a joke for crying out loud.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Please shutup. Your asshole attitude isn't going to get you anywhere here.

The Turtle Fucking is a joke for crying out loud.
Oh, I see. He's joking when he calls us Ron Paul supporters crazy too then? Secretly he supports Ron Paul? No, I actually find the thread insulting, maybe you should tell UB to shut the fuck up?

I'm tired of idiots. Very sick and tired. I've for over a decade been warning people that seriously bad shit is happening or is going to happen, and I've been ridiculed for a long time for it. And yet here we are today, you are about to live in a completely lawless society where the Executive has absolute authority and they aren't even denying it and I'm still the crazy one? I don't fuckin think so.
 

OGEvilgenius

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I laugh that it's my attitude that's the problem too. I go out of my way to not disrespect people unless they disrespect me. I'm pretty sure being called paranoid and crazy is disrespectful, but I guess to you Coal, that's ok and not a big deal and I'm the problem here.

Crazy is denying something is happening when the people who made it happen are saying it's happening... that's fuckin crazy. I am not crazy. Good day.
 

Coals

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Oh, I see. He's joking when he calls us Ron Paul supporters crazy too then? Secretly he supports Ron Paul? No, I actually find the thread insulting, maybe you should tell UB to shut the fuck up?


I'm tired of idiots. Very sick and tired. I've for over a decade been warning people that seriously bad shit is happening or is going to happen, and I've been ridiculed for a long time for it. And yet here we are today, you are about to live in a completely lawless society where the Executive has absolute authority and they aren't even denying it and I'm still the crazy one? I don't fuckin think so.
I and millions of people around the world agree with you but that still doesnt change the fact that your being an asshole. And according to you there are at least 6.9 billion idiots out there?

Your "message" isn't going to get to anyone that hasn't already received it if you continue to deliver it in this fashion.
 

Coals

Active Member
I laugh that it's my attitude that's the problem too. I go out of my way to not disrespect people unless they disrespect me. I'm pretty sure being called paranoid and crazy is disrespectful, but I guess to you Coal, that's ok and not a big deal and I'm the problem here.

Crazy is denying something is happening when the people who made it happen are saying it's happening... that's fuckin crazy. I am not crazy. Good day.
Look, if you go and say something to someone that sounds crazy to that person (i know its not but stay with me) and you also say it in a crazy -assholeish- angry sort of way, it makes you sound crazier.
 

OGEvilgenius

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I and millions of people around the world agree with you but that still doesnt change the fact that your being an asshole. And according to you there are at least 6.9 billion idiots out there?

Your "message" isn't going to get to anyone that hasn't already received it if you continue to deliver it in this fashion.
So what you're saying is: It's ok to be an ignorant asshole, but it's not cool to be an informed asshole? Rise above it?
 

Carne Seca

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Look, if you go and say something to someone that sounds crazy to that person (i know its not but stay with me) and you also say it in a crazy -assholeish- angry sort of way, it makes you sound crazier.
well it if walks like a duck.. quacks like duck.. I'm pretty sure it's a duck.
 

j.GrEeN.<,{'^'},>

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I stated several months ago that the fear mongering and propaganda was going to increase exponentially. Looks like I was right.
It is not very difficult to be clairvoyant, when your one of the very people perpetuating the things you predict.


Oh, I see. He's joking when he calls us Ron Paul supporters crazy too then? Secretly he supports Ron Paul? No, I actually find the thread insulting, maybe you should tell UB to shut the fuck up?

I'm tired of idiots. Very sick and tired. I've for over a decade been warning people that seriously bad shit is happening or is going to happen, and I've been ridiculed for a long time for it. And yet here we are today, you are about to live in a completely lawless society where the Executive has absolute authority and they aren't even denying it and I'm still the crazy one? I don't fuckin think so.
You can't talk any sense into these guys, because they are part of the same ilk. UncleFbuck has stated multiple times that he is being paid to manipulate, distort, and discredit peoples views on certain issues. As hard as it may be to believe, I think he's being honest saying this. Pay attention from now on, to the way they(UB,Carnesucka and a few others..) word there sentences, and repeat the same shite time and time again. IMO they are not trying to further any disscusion, only attempting to skew it in circles.(especially when it comes to RON PAUL and anything in defence of the government) The only truth they speak seems to be a front, to keep them in favor, of the few that follow. :peace::leaf:
 

tomahawk2406

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Oh, I see. He's joking when he calls us Ron Paul supporters crazy too then? Secretly he supports Ron Paul? No, I actually find the thread insulting, maybe you should tell UB to shut the fuck up?

I'm tired of idiots. Very sick and tired. I've for over a decade been warning people that seriously bad shit is happening or is going to happen, and I've been ridiculed for a long time for it. And yet here we are today, you are about to live in a completely lawless society where the Executive has absolute authority and they aren't even denying it and I'm still the crazy one? I don't fuckin think so.
Lol we'll see about that
 

UncleBuck

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Oh, I see. He's joking when he calls us Ron Paul supporters crazy too then? Secretly he supports Ron Paul? No, I actually find the thread insulting, maybe you should tell UB to shut the fuck up?

I'm tired of idiots. Very sick and tired. I've for over a decade been warning people that seriously bad shit is happening or is going to happen, and I've been ridiculed for a long time for it. And yet here we are today, you are about to live in a completely lawless society where the Executive has absolute authority and they aren't even denying it and I'm still the crazy one? I don't fuckin think so.
for the last 7 days, i predicted it would rain that day.

today it rained.

I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!
 

UncleBuck

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Folks like him and UB (who apparently, also isn't insulting in your opinion? He made a thread entitled Ron Paul: Turtle Fucker or not?) are poison to those trying to fight against tyranny. And maybe he's insulted, but I don't give a shit. I call em like I see em and I don't take insults lying down.
the poll clearly shows that a majority of people believe that ron paul fornicates with turtles.
 
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