Main Stream media pulling out all stops to make sure Ron Paul Doesn't win

jamesmartin

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when he talks about letting the market "clear itself", he is sugar coating his message. basically, he is saying let it all hit rock bottom, the people be damned. the free market will fix it all. people can suffer in the meantime while the free market fairy rains benevolence upon all.

in simpler terms, he wants to destroy it in order to fix it. the "my lai" approach to governing.

fuck that jazz.
If you research what ron said this is the only way to actually prevent future recessions from happening .

What we are doing now is only a temporary fix
 

UncleBuck

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If you research what ron said this is the only way to actually prevent future recessions from happening .

What we are doing now is only a temporary fix
the point is that his message won't sell.

"elect me, i'll let it all crash and burn!"

that is not a good campaign slogan.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
the point is that his message won't sell.

"elect me, i'll let it all crash and burn!"

that is not a good campaign slogan.
So if it crashes and burns, but 12 months later it is all rebuilt, wouldn't that be better than 30 or 40 years of smoldering heat? The excesses of credit creation can only be defaulted or discharged, either way is going to hurt, the question is whether you want it to hurt for a long long time, or just for a little while. I assume you don't take a day or two slowly peeling a band-aid off but instead just let er rip.
 

deprave

New Member
What are you even talking about buck, could you be more specific instead of giving one liners that you cherry pick and then paraphrase?
 

jpill

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What people don't understand is there is about to be an "aftershock" if you will from this first recession and it is going to effect the dollar value and our government debt from (borrowing). If we continue to print money and (borrow) to band aid our economy which our federal reserve has chosen to do we are going to be in a GLOBAL crisis.
 

UncleBuck

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So if it crashes and burns, but 12 months later it is all rebuilt, wouldn't that be better than 30 or 40 years of smoldering heat? The excesses of credit creation can only be defaulted or discharged, either way is going to hurt, the question is whether you want it to hurt for a long long time, or just for a little while. I assume you don't take a day or two slowly peeling a band-aid off but instead just let er rip.
there is no evidence that "12 months later it is all rebuilt", and there is no precedent that i know of for this.

speculation without evidence is not convincing argument to me.

a global economy and a bandaid are two very different things, to use them in an analogy seems a bit strange and simplistic to me.

based on your other comments tonight, which are very witty, i would say you have some good weed on hand. or, like me, you might be doing a little drinking.
 

NoDrama

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there is no evidence that "12 months later it is all rebuilt", and there is no precedent that i know of for this.

speculation without evidence is not convincing argument to me.

a global economy and a bandaid are two very different things, to use them in an analogy seems a bit strange and simplistic to me.

based on your other comments tonight, which are very witty, i would say you have some good weed on hand. or, like me, you might be doing a little drinking.
Don't drink much. Lets go back to the year 1907, a major depression would have happened, but due to a non interventionist policy the system cleared quickly and before you knew it things were back to normal in less than a year.

Things taught during that time, but lost to history? We cannot keep consuming without being aware of the consequences of over indulgence. Another one of life's lessons.

Let the bankers continue to print money to pay off the debt and you will slowly be suffocated out of a living.
 

tomahawk2406

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So if it crashes and burns, but 12 months later it is all rebuilt, wouldn't that be better than 30 or 40 years of smoldering heat? The excesses of credit creation can only be defaulted or discharged, either way is going to hurt, the question is whether you want it to hurt for a long long time, or just for a little while. I assume you don't take a day or two slowly peeling a band-aid off but instead just let er rip.
LOL 12 months later it will all be better because ron paul is THAT FUCKING GENIUS
 

tomahawk2406

Well-Known Member
Don't drink much. Lets go back to the year 1907, a major depression would have happened, but due to a non interventionist policy the system cleared quickly and before you knew it things were back to normal in less than a year.

Things taught during that time, but lost to history? We cannot keep consuming without being aware of the consequences of over indulgence. Another one of life's lessons.


Let the bankers continue to print money to pay off the debt and you will slowly be suffocated out of a living.
please describe this non interventionist policy that occured.....
 

tomahawk2406

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The government provided no liquidity to the failing banks, only private money was used to fill the gaps.
so if it worked in 1907 it must work in today's economic structure. its not like anything's changed in 105 years...........jp morgan will just come back as a zombie and lend a hand
 

NoDrama

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so if it worked in 1907 it must work in today's economic structure. its not like anything's changed in 105 years...........jp morgan will just come back as a zombie and lend a hand
No one said that, but the current plan of print and bail certainly isn't making things better after more than three years now.
 

PetFlora

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Not talking about him is along the lines of out of sight, out of mind. MSM is just another form of mind control. Tell people to stop watching that drivel. It's time to wake up and stop letting others make decisions for you. Remind them if they don't vote for PR, it's a statement that they believe in the staus quo- where both parties take turns fucking us. The only difference is the dems use KY Jelly
 

tomahawk2406

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No one said that, but the current plan of print and bail certainly isn't making things better after more than three years now.

well i don't have a youtube video or a quote from some harvard grad but i can say i don't really think the economy is in shape to just fix itself anymore. I believe those days are gone.
 

deprave

New Member
TODAY: Cenk Appauled finally by how afraid they are of Ron Paul, Cenk talks about how comically ridiculous it is that they are afraid to death of Ron Paul and how obvious it is now.

[video=youtube;vV1b-ycZAwQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV1b-ycZAwQ[/video]
 

NoDrama

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well i don't have a youtube video or a quote from some harvard grad but i can say i don't really think the economy is in shape to just fix itself anymore. I believe those days are gone.
Fix itself? Of course it can fix itself, you don't really think that commerce is something that only a central bank can manage do you? The economy is not some scientific calculation made by Bernanke and friends that is easily managed by reductions or increases in the supply of US Dollars, No no no, the economy is made up of individual sellers and buyers. It is these individuals who make up the market and hence the economy. It is these individuals who can fix it all by refusing to purchase Treasuries and refusing to take out loans and stopping the money creation process in its tracks. There is so much bad debt that should be defaulted on that continuing to try and slowly pay it all off by rolling over the loans whenever they come due is akin to trying to put out a fire with gasoline. You aren't paying off the loan when you do this, you are only stretching out the interest payments. Know why it takes so long to pay credit cards off when you only make the minimum payment? because the min payment barely covers the interest. Now imagine your Visa has a balance of $15 Trillion, but your tax receipts can cover the minimum payment only due to super low interest rates on the 10 year bond.
 
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