Cloning from Fan Leaves

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Hubert

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Woomeister said:
There are many varieties that have developed ways of regenerating without pollination and seeds, begonias and geraniums for instance. Its a plants defence mechanism for times when pollination and seed reproduction isn't available due to extenuating circumstances.
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I'm not saying cloning doesn't work, I just don't think you're method will work...how could it? Why has no one done it before? Find me some evidence!
 
Woomeister

Woomeister

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just before I go to bed..Why are people so unwilling to believe a quite normal natural occurence on the basis that they havent heard of it? Apparently people believed the world was flat you know!!
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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im interested. a picture (or a few) is worth a thousand words. could be usefull if possible with cannabis. i know some plants can drop a leaf and then put out roots ive seen succulent plants do this
 
STANDOX

STANDOX

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Woomeister said:
I'm new to the site, but an old hand at growing -hydro and soil and I would just be interested to know if anybody other than me clones from fan leaves?
From what I can see everyone has theories on how old the plant should be, how many nodes up the plant etc etc. As a degree holder in botany I would just like to say forget all the hype use fan leaves and get great stocky clones with roots after 1 week!!!
When I get a camera sorted I will post pictures.
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even if this did work there is no way in hell after one week a leaf would go from a leaf to a "stalk rooted plant"
unless you are the son of mothernature i highly doubt this theroy.
 
primeralives

primeralives

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how about everyone stops shiting on the new guy and give him a chance to teach all of us something. RIU could use another botanist
 
Revolution101

Revolution101

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I'm skeptical about this one too, but I'm down to subscribe and watch it just in case something exciting does happen. Good luck with this, if nothing else.
 
doinaight69

doinaight69

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I remember reading seeing in a thread about a month ago, this guy had cloned a leaf and it rooted and stayed alive said it did for quite a while but he eventually killed because it didn't grow into anything, it stayed a leaf.
 
BigBudBalls

BigBudBalls

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Woomeister said:
I'm new to the site, but an old hand at growing -hydro and soil and I would just be interested to know if anybody other than me clones from fan leaves?
From what I can see everyone has theories on how old the plant should be, how many nodes up the plant etc etc. As a degree holder in botany I would just like to say forget all the hype use fan leaves and get great stocky clones with roots after 1 week!!!
When I get a camera sorted I will post pictures.
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Read a thread or 2 about it. From what I read, yup Can get a fan leave to root. You will get a well rooted fan leaf. Not much more.


(I'm thinking a possible graft to stimulate the growth. But question arises, Is it from the fan leaf clone or the 'quality' cutting graffed into the rooted fan leaf?
 
STANDOX

STANDOX

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primeralives said:
half of you probally havent ever grown anything, just because you havent heard of it dosnet make it impossible
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lol i think many of us have grown which is why we are skeptical about this method but you are right man it doesnt make it impossible yet i would be more worried if every one got excited and praised this thread cause then i would doubt the experience of people knowing the know procedures for cloning
i actually started a new cloning thread but got yelled at by someone cause i was quote "beating a dead horse" if this one proves to be something well what do you know the endless possiblities of new information win again...
 
Woomeister

Woomeister

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I will post picture of my latest fan leaf clones as soon as they form multiple shoots ( as they always do) which should take a week or so.
Just to explain the science ,as many dont understand how growth can take place without any nodes or branches-Once the healthy Fan leaf is placed into its growing medium the blade continues to produce IAA(auxin) which is sent down the petiole as usual where it accumulates and forms a callus tissue;a mixture of merismatic and parenchyma cells.These cells have no determined fate and as such can differentiate in all directions. The IAA continues to accumulate in the callus until such a concentration is reached that roots are formed. The roots produce cytokinins(CK) a hormone that is transported upwards and accumulates in the callus. As the concentration increases the stimuli causes multiple shoot formation and you have a plant with between 1 and 5 stems.
 
rbahadosingh

rbahadosingh

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Woomeister said:
I will post picture of my latest fan leaf clones as soon as they form multiple shoots ( as they always do) which should take a week or so.
Just to explain the science ,as many dont understand how growth can take place without any nodes or branches-Once the healthy Fan leaf is placed into its growing medium the blade continues to produce IAA(auxin) which is sent down the petiole as usual where it accumulates and forms a callus tissue;a mixture of merismatic and parenchyma cells.These cells have no determined fate and as such can differentiate in all directions. The IAA continues to accumulate in the callus until such a concentration is reached that roots are formed. The roots produce cytokinins(CK) a hormone that is transported upwards and accumulates in the callus. As the concentration increases the stimuli causes multiple shoot formation and you have a plant with between 1 and 5 stems.
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Huh?:confused:
 
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