co2 sealed room

berrykid

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when the lights go off can i have an exhoust for when the lights go off and when the go bck on have it shut off co2 doesnt run at night so it shouldnt be a bad thing right :confused:
 

Clonex

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Because your room is sealed you will need to yeah , normally a passive intake would suffice.
 

donutpunched

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If you have a sealed room.. it is just that a sealed room... You may want to exhaust the lights.. Fresh air in through the lights then out... But you are not exchanging the air in a sealed room.... Use a Co2 Monitor.. when lights go out it cuts the Co2 out and then kicks on when the lights come on....
 

Clonex

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If you have a sealed room.. it is just that a sealed room... You may want to exhaust the lights.. Fresh air in through the lights then out... But you are not exchanging the air in a sealed room.... Use a Co2 Monitor.. when lights go out it cuts the Co2 out and then kicks on when the lights come on....
A sealed room still needs the air exchanged ??????
A sealed room does not mean nothing in or out,
it just means you have full control over what comes in and out.
 

berrykid

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yea but wnt that be a danger for me if i dnt exhoust some of the air in the room i mean all that co2 wnt be good for me at all times i mean i would like to exhoust a few times while lights are off what u guys think no need to argue
If you have a sealed room.. it is just that a sealed room... You may want to exhaust the lights.. Fresh air in through the lights then out... But you are not exchanging the air in a sealed room.... Use a Co2 Monitor.. when lights go out it cuts the Co2 out and then kicks on when the lights come on....
 

gladstoned

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My thoughts. I am doing this myself right now. Vent the lights through the room separate. (Have an intake bringing in outside air through your lights cooling them and then exhausting out of the room. While your lights are on you want to 'dump' your air every hour hour five mintues. So you need a good timer that can be programmed for that shit. Then when your lights are out you don't run the co2 and you can exhaust your room a few times for good measure. I'm thinking maybe a type of damper for an intake, so the fresh air will vacuum in when the exhaust is on. I am pondering bringing in cold ass air into a room and letting it warm up before it goes in my room cuz it is sposed to be atleast 60, and if it's -20 up here, that could cause some shit. lol. They have ice boxes too, that hook up to a water chiller and they hook up to your light and it works like an air conditioner to cool the lights and the room. That may be the way to go also. I will definitely watch this one.
 

donutpunched

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so if we are doing air exchanges and such... it is not like any sealed rooms i have...the outside air only gets in when i open the door to come in... co2 allows the plants to grow..in a sealed room you are using a burner or tank.. not outside air...outside air is to cool the lights... air goes through the room only in ducting... and if you are doing hydro..the air is pumped from the outsid through a sealed hole to your diffussers.... you should not be able to smell your grow outside of the room unless you open the door... so air exchangers require filters....
 

LaudanumRx

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When I've run CO2 it's been in a room that lets no air out. Having said that, I guess it's worth noting that so long as you weren't letting air out while the CO2 was running, then no big deal. I'm sure your garden would love the fresh air. However, one of the main advantages to a sealed room is that no air leaves and therefore no smell leaves. If you can keep your lights-on temps around 85 and your CO2 around 1500, you're all good. If you're in a shed or something that gets hot during the day while your lights are off, then you would ideally use an AC but exhausting would do the trick too.

One of the best days of my life though was when I cut the duct lines in my air cooling intake and stopped running CO2. All just fresh air. I have to use several scrubbers to keep smell under control but not having to pick up new tanks every week is soooooooooo nice.

That was a long way of saying, "Yeah, you're all good."
 

berrykid

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ok all i wnna do is exhaust some a while the lights are off its still a sealed room cuz there is nuttin comeing in im not trying to argue im just trying to ask if i do exhaust the room while the lights are off would it be a problem i see no problem with it all my lights got there own inline pulling all the heat idk ill just give it a try it wouldnt hurt i dnt want anything building up in my roon mold bacteria and shit and for my health also its the only reason i wnna exhaust while lights are off thnx for the advice by the we all is appreciated brothers
so if we are doing air exchanges and such... it is not like any sealed rooms i have...the outside air only gets in when i open the door to come in... co2 allows the plants to grow..in a sealed room you are using a burner or tank.. not outside air...outside air is to cool the lights... air goes through the room only in ducting... and if you are doing hydro..the air is pumped from the outsid through a sealed hole to your diffussers.... you should not be able to smell your grow outside of the room unless you open the door... so air exchangers require filters....
 

berrykid

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koo thnx bro did takeing out the co2 affect yield and if u dnt mine me asking why did u take it out mayb its a good reason for me to take it out
When I've run CO2 it's been in a room that lets no air out. Having said that, I guess it's worth noting that so long as you weren't letting air out while the CO2 was running, then no big deal. I'm sure your garden would love the fresh air. However, one of the main advantages to a sealed room is that no air leaves and therefore no smell leaves. If you can keep your lights-on temps around 85 and your CO2 around 1500, you're all good. If you're in a shed or something that gets hot during the day while your lights are off, then you would ideally use an AC but exhausting would do the trick too.

One of the best days of my life though was when I cut the duct lines in my air cooling intake and stopped running CO2. All just fresh air. I have to use several scrubbers to keep smell under control but not having to pick up new tanks every week is soooooooooo nice.

That was a long way of saying, "Yeah, you're all good."
 

Clonex

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so if we are doing air exchanges and such... it is not like any sealed rooms i have...the outside air only gets in when i open the door to come in... co2 allows the plants to grow..in a sealed room you are using a burner or tank.. not outside air...outside air is to cool the lights... air goes through the room only in ducting... and if you are doing hydro..the air is pumped from the outsid through a sealed hole to your diffussers.... you should not be able to smell your grow outside of the room unless you open the door... so air exchangers require filters....
Yeah that's completely true ,
he stated he was going to exhaust during lights off , i'm merely saying that if he does this(it does have advantages) he will also need to draw air in as nobody needs a positive vacum umbre.....
 

LaudanumRx

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koo thnx bro did takeing out the co2 affect yield and if u dnt mine me asking why did u take it out mayb its a good reason for me to take it out
To be perfectly honest I just didn't like several things such as:

1. running AC
2. exchanging tanks every week
3. i was always worried i'd run out of CO2 and then, in a sealed room, my plants would be starved of air

Here is my first run since taking out CO2: https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/398941-plush-berry-picture-thread-46.html#post6793379
 

FootClan

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to me sealed room means just that SEALED...... that means no air exchange in and out....... If you run this set up you MUST have a dehumidifier for when the lights are off....... If not then make and exhaust hole for getting the humid air out during LIGHTS OFF...... Ive seem some do this with no intank hole and ive seeon some do it with intake holes..... If you do an intake hole you would want some sort of eletric baffle that you can put on your light timer so when lights come on and Co2 starts the baffle will close and the room will now become a "SEALED" room when lights shut off baffle will open and exhaust fan will switch on turning it into a "open loop" room..... me id just make it a sealed room and get a dehumidifyer and Ac........good luck
 

gladstoned

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to me sealed room means just that SEALED...... that means no air exchange in and out....... If you run this set up you MUST have a dehumidifier for when the lights are off....... If not then make and exhaust hole for getting the humid air out during LIGHTS OFF...... Ive seem some do this with no intank hole and ive seeon some do it with intake holes..... If you do an intake hole you would want some sort of eletric baffle that you can put on your light timer so when lights come on and Co2 starts the baffle will close and the room will now become a "SEALED" room when lights shut off baffle will open and exhaust fan will switch on turning it into a "open loop" room..... me id just make it a sealed room and get a dehumidifyer and Ac........good luck
Don't you still need to 'dump' your air every hour during lights on?
 

FootClan

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Don't you still need to 'dump' your air every hour during lights on?
why do YOU need to dump your air?? theres only 3 reasons to have an intake and out take.....

One and most important is you need to replenish your Co2 levels and with out suppmental Co2 your only way of doing that is to exchange the air.... Job two is to cool your room by bring in air that is of lower ambient temp then the air inside your room.... and its 3rd job is to removes built up humidity in the air.....So thats 3 jobs its doing, now that you know why your doing it, it will be easyer to understand a sealed room system.......

Now In sealed room you wont need to bring in more Co2 becaue you will be supplementing it with a Tank or a burner..... and in a sealed room you wont need to bring in cooler air because you will have an A/C to take care of that and lastly you wont need to extract humid air out because you will have a Dehumidifer..... thats 3 things needed in a open system and thats 3 things youve solved by switching to a closed loop...... So to answer you question NO you do not NEED to have an inlet and an outlet aslong as you set your "sealed" room up RIGHT!!

This means you WILL NEED a A/C with 4k BTU per 1000w light(depending on ambient temps outside or course), You will need a Co2 tank or Burner and you WILL need a dehumidifer....... those are 3 MUST haves for a proper sealed room....... not only do you need all those extra things you will also need an EXTRA allowaince or Amps for your A/c and Dehumidifyer....... so just know that a "sealed" room cost not only more in equipment but more in PG&e ......

A sealed room is better suited for the experianced grower with some cycles under his belt and a healthy surpluss of cash ....... hope this helps.....
 

gladstoned

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My idea for changing out the room every hour was from the hydro store guy that sold me all the shit. lol. fuckers. You make more sense, it's easier and cheaper. Thank You.
 
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