Cinderella 88 goes Commercial ?????

[Guile]

Flo Grow:

I know my post count is low but I have had my growing fundamentals down since the mid 90's and experiment in advanced techniques few people even consider. I'm currently a "Medical Marijuana Care Provider" in Southern Maine and consistently sell off entire harvests before I even have a chance to cut it down (though I'm sure at-least half the reason is that I'm not looking to rape the people that need the kind of medicine I provide)

I am currently on the hunt for the "perfect" C99 pheno and have dozens of seeds from about a half dozen breeders/resources..
This spring I intend to erect a greenhouse exclusively dedicated to this pursuit and would be glad to reciprocate if you are willing to make a donation to the cause. Obviously it may take me years to isolate and stabilize a couple promising variants for breeding/seeding however would be glad to return seeds from each (well documented) cross/back cross along the way as well as any new hybrids I develop (Currently considering an Amnesia Haze hybrid).

I'm not looking to make money off anything you might be willing to offer me, I'm essentially nonprofit (I do it for the love of it) though I would like to name anything I develop if it does go commercial. (Obviously not "Guile" but something nice like "Utopia" or "Carma")

 

[Dizzle Frost]

@ Uncle Ben

Ive personaly always had a small prob with the JH story to....but i do know when JH is bred to F2s they will throw out a huge variety of phenotypes including fast flowering plants. Nobody will ever really know the true parentage of Princess, Genuis or Ginger Ale....but if you really think about it its plausible. Ive been workign with Cinderella 99 for almost 2 years now and i can tell you theres alot more to her than described. Ive found phenotypes thru breeding that i didnt know exsisted.

No matter how you put it, its a crazy strain...she shows some JH in her smoke and taste in certain phenos...so who knows. I cant agree with Soul jus renaming dutch strains and peddling them tho....if you can find me another strain out there asides from Apollo that resembles C99 in any way shape or form id love to know what it is lol. Shes a pretty unique plant.

Also he didnt jus disapear..he went to make Dutch Flowers...then disaperead LOL....you cant deny the man made some wild strains...some of my fav smokes are from Bros Grimm and Dutch Flowers

 

[Uncle Ben]

C99 was stabilized thru cubing. That was their main goal, was to produce a stabilized plant that was ready in 7 weeks of flowering. If your C99 is showing different phenotypes, you don't have the original beans or genetics. I had one male that had extraordinary long internodes, but all the others were like clones and so were the ones my forums friends grew. Here's a photo of a few C99 females, all BG originals.

 

[Flo Grow]

Nice pics UB !
I am sure whoever grew those now know Cindy does best topped with 3 - 4 nodes.
She doesnt give her all as a "tree".
Now my question is UB, are you a fan of Cindy or not ?
Seems to me you feel some kind of way about Cindy and Bros Grimm.
Either way, enjoy the show.

 

[Flo Grow]

@Guile - I am afraid these C88's won't be leaving my hands anytime soon.
I will however keep you in mind as I do my thing with them.
We will converse more via pm.

 

[Dizzle Frost]

C99 was stabilized thru cubing. That was their main goal, was to produce a stabilized plant that was ready in 7 weeks of flowering. If your C99 is showing different phenotypes, you don't have the original beans or genetics. I had one male that had extraordinary long internodes, but all the others were like clones and so were the ones my forums friends grew. Here's a photo of a few C99 females, all BG originals.

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Mine are legit...i found phenos by breeding not in the orig pack. and the phenos i found are all very close in looks, but differ only in taste and slightly in highs. I know it was cubed back to Princess, i read alota Souls writings , its also never been stabilized like an IBL, if you bred em out yul see what i mean. I like em , i like Bros Grimm , they breed true for certain traits and all finish in 7wks. Yur plants look like mine do when i veg em out untopped. But same structure, same leafs.

Everyones gonn ahave a diff take on diff strains and breeders i guess ..thats what makes the community so diverse and good IMO

those plants are nice btw

 

[Uncle Ben]

Nice pics UB !
I am sure whoever grew those now know Cindy does best topped with 3 - 4 nodes.
She doesnt give her all as a "tree".
Now my question is UB, are you a fan of Cindy or not ?
Seems to me you feel some kind of way about Cindy and Bros Grimm.
Either way, enjoy the show.

Cindy is fine but it's not the Holy Grail as the Bros hawked it to be, neither is Haze. The names are legends now, nothing more. Buying seeds is not like buying a Harley. You have no idea of what you're getting, the background, etc.

 

[Guile]

Uncle Ben:

I'm interested in your opinion on the most ideal sativa strains for indoor cultivation (especially where space and flowering time are considerations). Something that will do nicely in SOG mature in 9 weeks (or less) and can be placed into flower shortly after rooting.

I was drawn to C99 because it seems to best suit this criteria (though Super Silver Haze seems appealing too).

 

[Dizzle Frost]

Cindy is fine but it's not the Holy Grail as the Bros hawked it to be, neither is Haze. The names are legends now, nothing more. Buying seeds is not like buying a Harley. You have no idea of what you're getting, the background, etc.

That i will agree hands down ! Its a good unique smoke...but deff not the holy grail lol.....id put Chocolate Thai against it all day...we all know who wins that fight lol

Harley reference was good

 

[Uncle Ben]

Uncle Ben:

I'm interested in your opinion on the most ideal sativa strains for indoor cultivation (especially where space and flowering time are considerations). Something that will do nicely in SOG mature in 9 weeks (or less) and can be placed into flower shortly after rooting.

I was drawn to C99 because it seems to best suit this criteria (though Super Silver Haze seems appealing too).

There is no such thing as a sativa that matures in less than 9 weeks.

 

[Monkeymonk840]

Nice why not it's a classic. And to think these all came from seeds found in a sample in the dam. Now to you and maybe accross the globe again.

 

[Brick Top]

There is no such thing as a sativa that matures in less than 9 weeks.

I've never grown one to find out, but I have heard of a few 100% sativas that are supposed to finish that fast. Here's the info on one of them. How reliable it is I cannot swear. But I have read of maybe 4 to 6 allegedly 100% sativa strains that will finish in about that time period or slightly less.


Bambata

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Variety developed from a strain from south-west Africa.

Strain: Bambata
Breeder: Tiki Seedbank
Location: indoor, outdoor
Type: sativa
Flowering: ~58 days
No feminized seeds.

Exclusively Sativa, it nevertheless shows a fast flowering time and a size adapted to indoor growing. As its name meaning "Enormous" says, it grows colas of an uncommon size for sativas.

Its heavy cristals and its development make it a beautiful and very fragrant plant, with an unmistakable spicy flavour. It does very well outdoor under our northen European latitudes.

100% Sativa / Indoor 55-60 days / Outdoor mid october. Height 100-120 cm.


Strain Lineage / Genealogy / Family Tree

• Bambata »»» Africa
• Africa »»» Sativa

 

[heyYousGuys]

These were a gift a while back from one of Bros Grimm original C88 and C99 testers. I have 3 that i just started in Rapid Rooter plugs and waiting for the 4th one to crack it's shell too before I plant it. I am curious as to if people would be interested in Cinderella 88 being available to the "public" ? It would take me 1 - 1.5 yrs to do it. Feel free to voice your opinion. Any trolls or trouble makers WILL get evicted from the thread, so let's act like the good weed-smoking/growing adults that we are !!

Damn dude. I don't know you, but holy shit, who or what decided you were one of the lucky few to possess such genuine genetics.
I got Cindy on the way from FemaleSeeds, but man, that does not compare to your source. Even if it was just a tester.
What are the chances of 88 going to the masses????????
That Princess is strong from what I read. Would love love LOVE to have it!

KUDOS TO YOU MAN. I AM SUPER FUCKING JEALOUS.

 

[Guile]

There is no such thing as a sativa that matures in less than 9 weeks.

Perhaps my wording was wrong... Otherwise I am laboring under some major misunderstandings...

From what I gather C99 (which granted is likely the bastard child of unknown linage) Has a strong dominantly sativa effect to its buzz/high.. Additionally I am under the impression that from the beginning of its flowering cycle (under 12hrs light/day) that it will reach full maturity (ripen) in under 9 weeks.. If I am mistaken in any aspect of this statement I am very interested in becoming better informed (as I have invested a bit of money in C99 seeds and plan to dump a bit more into growing them out/breeding them)

It is simply and exclusively these quality's that I was referring to when I asked "your opinion on the most ideal sativa strains for indoor cultivation (especially where space and flowering time are considerations). Something that will do nicely in SOG mature in 9 weeks (or less) and can be placed into flower shortly after rooting."

I personally have little care/though/concern for the linage of a plant as long as it suits my needs, if it bore grill cheese sandwiches and I was starving at the moment it would just the thing for me (regardless if it had ruderalis in it heritage)... Currently I'm looking for a sativa-esque high from a plant that suits my growing method..

 

[NoSwag]

In on dis ish.

Gotta see this.

 

[Dizzle Frost]

Perhaps my wording was wrong... Otherwise I am laboring under some major misunderstandings...

From what I gather C99 (which granted is likely the bastard child of unknown linage) Has a strong dominantly sativa effect to its buzz/high.. Additionally I am under the impression that from the beginning of its flowering cycle (under 12hrs light/day) that it will reach full maturity (ripen) in under 9 weeks.. If I am mistaken in any aspect of this statement I am very interested in becoming better informed (as I have invested a bit of money in C99 seeds and plan to dump a bit more into growing them out/breeding them)

It is simply and exclusively these quality's that I was referring to when I asked "your opinion on the most ideal sativa strains for indoor cultivation (especially where space and flowering time are considerations). Something that will do nicely in SOG mature in 9 weeks (or less) and can be placed into flower shortly after rooting."

I personally have little care/though/concern for the linage of a plant as long as it suits my needs, if it bore grill cheese sandwiches and I was starving at the moment it would just the thing for me (regardless if it had ruderalis in it heritage)... Currently I'm looking for a sativa-esque high from a plant that suits my growing method..

its not a pure sativa tho...it was a cut bred to shiva skunk and cubed back to the orig cut to get c99. So in reality its a sativa dom hybrid. Most pure sativas are gonna finish anywere from 13-16+ weeks, maybe a few in the 10-11 wk range as well.

checkkour Mr Nice, hes got some sativa hyrids that finish in a realistic time...i got some Mango Haze growin right now, and soem Nevilles Haze on the back burner

 

[Guile]

its not a pure sativa tho...it was a cut bred to shiva skunk and cubed back to the orig cut to get c99. So in reality its a sativa dom hybrid. Most pure sativas are gonna finish anywere from 13-16+ weeks, maybe a few in the 10-11 wk range as well.

checkkour Mr Nice, hes got some sativa hyrids that finish in a realistic time...i got some Mango Haze growin right now, and soem Nevilles Haze on the back burner

I fully appreciate what you guys are saying (there really is no reason to condensed towards me, I've been doing this for a little while). I'm just not in the habit of describing a particular quality (flowering time, stature, high, otherwise) in terms of "pure this/that", "heirloom", or "landrace" I am sure there are all kinds of sticklers out there looking to split any given hair for the sake of an argument (its all good and fun). Perhaps I just need to work on attaching quantifiers to every damn thing I write (because it clearly can't be assumed we are operating on a similar plane).

 

[forgetiwashere]

durban poison is an african landrace SATIVA that flowers in 8 to 9 weeks. true fact

 

[Dizzle Frost]

We all thought you meant a sativa..meaning a pure sativa

 

[Guile]

Nah, everything I do is the product of some sort of compromise... its just my goal to make the compromises where they don't blindingly glare through in the end..

I know there are alot of people out there that hang some kind of personal interest/investment on weather not something is "pure", "heirloom", or "landrace" (Pot Nazis.... "NO POT 4 YOU!!!"... lol) I just have too many reasonable concerns to waste much of my time getting caught up in that.

To be honest when I first got serious about growing (graduated from bag seeds) back in the mid 90's I was just a kid working at a night club. The owner useto go to Amsterdam a couple times a year and bring back seeds that he would give to his employes, so there were a few of us that were growing. We would bring in our stuff whenever we pulled a harvest to share (and brag) I useto talk alot of crap back then to everyone who grew hybrids (skunk/NL) because I was all about Afghani at the time. See the thing is, since then, I grew up. If I'm going to make a stink about something now it will be worth while like foreign trade policy's or the absolute lack of corporate responsibility..

Now I'm a "medical marijuana care provider" to a number of patents that are disabled and living on limited incomes.. There is no insurance out there that covers this treatment option so I do my best to cut them a break (I'm pretty passionate about it, and do right by these people that I consider friends) The only thing that matters to me (in regards to growing pot) is that these people get the medicine they need to have a decent quality of life. Most others would probably be surprised at the lengths I go to, I operate at a net loss (about 1k a month lately, even had to put off buying a new home I had been planing on for years and instead settled for an addition/dedicated grow room so I could help more people).

So for me its all about getting the effect you are after (not the linage that got it there)..