Scrog Material

Withthebiscuit · Jan 1, 2012

I was reading more about the Scrog method but I'm wondering any good websites with stores to purchase items like Chicken wire and etc

DSB65 · Jan 1, 2012

Any home improvement store should have wire...or just make one like this...its easy

Withthebiscuit · Jan 1, 2012

DSB65 said:
Any home improvement store should have wire...or just make one like this...its easy

yea i'm trying to make one exactly like that actually need help on supplies I would need to purchase.

maineyankee · Jan 1, 2012

I take it Home TeaPot (Depot) is not yet in Jamaica :-(

I am wondering about "Grainger". I know that they service some of the Caribbean. Best of Luck
The MaineYankee :-)

Withthebiscuit · Jan 1, 2012

maineyankee said:
I take it Home TeaPot (Depot) is not yet in Jamaica I am wondering about "Grainger". I know that they service some of the Caribbean. Best of Luck
The MaineYankee

appreciate it found what i was looking for
now I need to get some wood and get crafty!

DSB65 · Jan 1, 2012

I just split a 2 by 4 down the middle ..used nylon string and wood screws...

Purplestickeypunch · Jan 1, 2012

I'm using a plastic alternative to the metal stuff. PVC frame and some zipties. And when the grow is done I will be able to cut the screen easily if needed.

maineyankee · Jan 2, 2012

Purplestickeypunch said:
I'm using a plastic alternative to the metal stuff. PVC frame and some zipties. And when the grow is done I will be able to cut the screen easily if needed.

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Can you be a little bit more specific as to the name of that plastic? Looks awesome, and a little bit better than what I am currently using, which is Chicken wire ( 1 inch hex). This is too small, and a little too sharp when I have to be oh so gentle in getting the leaves through such a small opening.
MaineYankee :-)

Purplestickeypunch · Jan 2, 2012

maineyankee said:
Can you be a little bit more specific as to the name of that plastic? Looks awesome, and a little bit better than what I am currently using, which is Chicken wire ( 1 inch hex). This is too small, and a little too sharp when I have to be oh so gentle in getting the leaves through such a small opening.
MaineYankee

Look for barrier fencing. It is in the fencing section of a Home Depot / Lowes. (Comes in a 4' x 50' roll.) The holes are too small to use as is, so I cut the pattern in the pic. The scale of the pic can be a bit misleading; the door it is leaning up against is not a standard width door.

This is pretty much the same stuff. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&q=barrier+fencing+green&gs_upl=5461l7004l1l7276l6l6l0l0l0l0l479l1037l1.4.4-1l6l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1111&bih=564&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=13628499931331859504&sa=X&ei=7M4BT4uEMoja0QGD27WkAg&ved=0CJYBEPMCMAk

Tip: If you go with this stuff, or something else that you have to cut to make the holes larger; go ahead and cut the "fingers" from inside the hole. I found out the hard way that they will shred leaves if you aren't careful.

Edit: I noticed you said Grainger is a better option for you. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/CORTINA-Barrier-Fence-1EKU8?Pid=search

BluBerry · Jan 2, 2012

I don't recommend using chicken wire but some do use it. Nylon rope seems to do fine and is cheap to use and IMO is better than wire. Wire can tear up your stems and plants easier than rope. A scrog screen can be made easily from about anything tho. Me personally I like my holes 2-2.5 inches in diameter. Anything smaller is a pain and anything bigger just seems like a waste to me.

Endur0xX · Jan 2, 2012

I prefer chicken wire to plastic though, just seems like the plastic always touching the plant would leach chemical ,, well more than chicken wire would! I like the chicken wire I used, if I have only one recommendation is to make 1 screen per plant so you can move things around... I dont think I will do what I did again because once they get to a certain size, you cannot move anything, I am having the hardest time watering my BM in the corner of my scrog, only got 3 plants! anyway, good luck

u can do it like half of a half pipe shape per plant if u wanna keep the U shape.. that is what I am planning on doing next

atb · Jan 2, 2012

use hemp string to make the scrog

NewGrower2011 · Jan 2, 2012

I was going to make mine height-adjustable using a PVC frame. For the grid I planned
on buying a bulk roll of bungee cord.... make each run by simply drilling a hole in the pvc
and passing the bungee cord through it... place a washer on the bungee cord and tie a good knot.

Make your grid pattern that way... and if you need to push/pull/tug things around you'll have a little
wiggle room... depending on how taunt you pull things when making your runs...

Anyone tried a variation of that?

NewGrower2011 · Jan 2, 2012

A quick Google for "bulk bungee cord" has tons of results... First one I glanced at I found this...

http://www.bungeeco.com/subcategory.php?subCatId=33

Which evens specifies for 'marine' use... Not UV resistant, so it'll fade - but so what? As long
as it doesn't deteriorate/weaken from UV and something classified for marine use damn well
better tolerate a little of the ol' sunlight...

So it seems like even if you can't find it locally, there's good options to be found...

Can anyone tell me a reson to NOT use this material for the screen?

BluBerry · Jan 2, 2012

Why do you want an adjustable screen. A Scrog is supposed to have a fixed screen. If you need to move around that much then you should have a screen that is fully accessible or go without a screen.

maineyankee · Jan 3, 2012

Endur0xX said:
I prefer chicken wire to plastic though, just seems like the plastic always touching the plant would leach chemical ,, well more than chicken wire would! I like the chicken wire I used, if I have only one recommendation is to make 1 screen per plant so you can move things around... I dont think I will do what I did again because once they get to a certain size, you cannot move anything, I am having the hardest time watering my BM in the corner of my scrog, only got 3 plants! anyway, good luck

u can do it like half of a half pipe shape per plant if u wanna keep the U shape.. that is what I am planning on doing next

I had a similar problem about reaching. My wife came up with the idea of tweaking a tomato cage for height, and then placing the chicken wire on top with tie-downs. Works great as now I can take out my (4) girls one at a time. The only thing that I would say is that you have to be very careful with the chicken wire so that it does not tear up the plants. It takes me a good 5 minutes at some times to get the girls through the wire without damage.
MaineYankee :-)

NewGrower2011 · Jan 6, 2012

BluBerry said:
Why do you want an adjustable screen. A Scrog is supposed to have a fixed screen. If you need to move around that much then you should have a screen that is fully accessible or go without a screen.

To access the plants... I have 2 x 2'x4' trays... I'm putting each on a 'dolly' essentially (4 wheels from Lowes/HD @ $4 each per dolly). Then all I have to do is make the screen
component attached so the whole deal can be moved around (i.e. getting to plants in the back corners if needed)... I do things once and try to do them well. Therefore since I
haven't determined what exact height I want for ever future grow... a little forethought can go a long way. And to make something height adjustable is trivial in this case.

For instance... if using PVC.... make it use 2 couplers and the middle section of pipe between them isn't glued, but bolted through (simple nut/washer dealio)... then if you want to make it shorter
or taller, 4 new pieces of pipe and 8 little holes to drill - you're set. No rebuilding of your entire screen. Something similar in lumber or steel is just as easy...

I think my question is "why wouldn't you" - if you've got any handyman skills... just seems to me to be a "pro-active" strategy... (And yes, I'm in an engineering field of work - so of course I've got to over engineer it).

NewGrower2011 · Jan 6, 2012

As for leeching, what do you think of the use of bungee? Sticking with plain white and untreated
would hopefully limit the chemicals used in the manufacturing process and with no coloration
that would eliminate any dyes to leech...

Is leeching a real problem in the quantities we're talking about here?

woodsmantoker · Jan 6, 2012

Adjustable Scrogs are fantastic. We use adjustable legs as well as uprights that hold a secondary canopy screen. With the ability to raise and lower the entire screen, we can have the whole unit attached to the inside of a tray that also hosts our containers or res. When its time to add a plant or remove a plant, the screen dismantles from the frame, and the plant can be lifted out. Then when replacing it,(perpetual cycle) the next plant is placed in the center of the tray, a new screen is attached to the frame, and the frame and screen are then lowered to the appropriate height for the new plant. For the final step, the tray sits on a platform that can be raised or lowered in order to maintain an even canopy throughout the garden at near to equal distance from the lights. Once colas have reached towering heights, and support is needed to keep them upright or evenly spaced, the secondary support screen can be lowered using its adjustable feature in the same manner as the legs.

As a commercial fisherman, I learned a thing or two about web, net, and tying knots. If you really want to have the ideal material for scrog use, learn net tying and knots, and make your own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMxTGqy0Mzk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unc2m4s_6Z8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNm265HolHo

I can make any size I want and have several sizes around for use when deciding what mesh I need for the given strain. I often preach "knowing your strain" in my scrog seminars. If I know my plant before entering the scrog, I can appropriately select a mesh size that suits the size of leafs, node spacing, elongation or "stretch", etc. I use materials that are resistant to chemical, light in color, and have little to no ability to retain moisture.

maineyankee · Jan 6, 2012

woodsmantoker said:
Adjustable Scrogs are fantastic. We use adjustable legs as well as uprights that hold a secondary canopy screen. With the ability to raise and lower the entire screen, we can have the whole unit attached to the inside of a tray that also hosts our containers or res. When its time to add a plant or remove a plant, the screen dismantles from the frame, and the plant can be lifted out. Then when replacing it,(perpetual cycle) the next plant is placed in the center of the tray, a new screen is attached to the frame, and the frame and screen are then lowered to the appropriate height for the new plant. For the final step, the tray sits on a platform that can be raised or lowered in order to maintain an even canopy throughout the garden at near to equal distance from the lights.

As the saying goes ... A picture is worth a thousand words. Can you post a pic? I am very interested in this concept, but sometime I need to see exactly what I am dealing with. Thanks so very much in advance :-)

The MaineYankee :-)

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