2 for 2 on the hermie train...

curto

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2 for 2 on the hermie train... Never knew a hermie could look this good... Man that doesn't sound right. Well this was a feminized blackjack, I read recently they have a tendency to go hermie indoors... If the whole plant is seeded, I assume it is not do to pollen it must be from the plant itself... For the record I see no pollen sacks it is developing seeds in the calyx's though. The only real thing I did wrong was my lights went off for about 20-30 min in the middle of a lightning cycle, my power bar tripped.. For no damn reason. Other then that... Burning a bit of the leaves, and the uv-b light......... not to mention I'm using two 150 watt cfl's + a 15 watt uv-b once in a while (not sure how she likes me throwing more light then taking it away either) I am thinking burning leaves causes it to go hermie as well... Problem is... I am limited in space and if I don't want to burn it, I will only have light on one side of the plant, of course I'd turn it once in a while........ Not sure if she'd like that either. Anyway I'm either going to give it 2 more weeks.. or 3... I'm leaning towards 3 weeks before harvest, if I can make it. LOL, last night I had a dream by the time it was dry I had like a gram left.... More like a nightmare :D
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Dank Hands

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Yeah, prolly just the genetics. My bro who basically showed me the way of growing got some barneys farm sweettooth females and they hermied up like a MF on him during the end of flower, after showing no sacs the entire grow. He had never even seen a hermie before that from years of growing with regseeds and clones. Many people will scream and say that femseeds have no better chance of hermieing then regseeds, but Idk about that. I will never buy fems and I have a shtload of fem freebies that I have hesitated a long time to use. oh yea and btw, his hermied sweettooth was actually really dank smoke. I was amazed that a hermie could be so fucking good. I dont think the lights being off for 30 mins would stress them out much at all.
 

darkdestruction420

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If the whole plant is seeded, I assume it is not do to pollen it must be from the plant itself...
It most certainly is due to pollen my friend. A hermie plant makes male flowers that make pollen that can(and will if you let it) pollinate itself and other female plants. a seed cant just form, you need the pollen.
The only real thing I did wrong was my lights went off for about 20-30 min in the middle of a lightning cycle, my power bar tripped.. For no damn reason.
that could not cause this, its light during the dark cycle that is the problem as it messes with the amount of flowering hormone the plant builds up during the dark period as the flowering hormone is destroyed by light. if they are known for being genetic hermies i'd say thats what caused it. not something small like no light for 20 minutes one time.
do you have any more pics of your plant from different angles and of different spots? I would like to see more of your plant and how it looks overall.
 

curto

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I added a couple more pictures at the top.
It's a small one about 12 inches probably, I did force it into flowering before it showed its sex as well (about a month from seed)...

If I were to take a guess of where a pollen sack may have formed I would say the very bottom branches where very little light gets in.
Next time, whenever that is, I will cut the lower branches off a week or so before I throw it into flowering.

Thanks for the advice/condolences.
 

supersillybilly

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If the whole plant is seeded, I assume it is not do to pollen it must be from the plant itself...
It most certainly is due to pollen my friend. A hermie plant makes male flowers that make pollen that can(and will if you let it) pollinate itself and other female plants. a seed cant just form, you need the pollen.
The only real thing I did wrong was my lights went off for about 20-30 min in the middle of a lightning cycle, my power bar tripped.. For no damn reason.
that could not cause this, its light during the dark cycle that is the problem as it messes with the amount of flowering hormone the plant builds up during the dark period as the flowering hormone is destroyed by light. if they are known for being genetic hermies i'd say thats what caused it. not something small like no light for 20 minutes one time.
do you have any more pics of your plant from different angles and of different spots? I would like to see more of your plant and how it looks overall.

Seeds can form without pollen........
 

supersillybilly

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Have u never grown a plant right to near its death??? Sometimes true females fling out a few seeds right at the end of flowering. Life must go on and all that jazz
 

zo0t

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dats what happen when ya buy feminized seedz just get normal one and flower early liek in b4 2 weeks u get 90% femalez br0
 

curto

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I should have started with the feminized seed, at least I would know it was the problem for sure... I started with normal seeds the grow before this and I had a male and threw it out carefully.. But I have a feeling I have to decontaminate.. EVERYTHING if i want to prevent this in the future... Then of course I'll probably grow another male and repeat the F*ing cycle. F*ck my life, not literally, figuratively.

On second thought though, I don't think the whole plant would have been pollinated from the grow before.. I think its more likely it had a male flower of its own on a bottom branch.


What bugs me besides the taste of seeds is I heard once the plant is pollinated it starts putting all its energy into seed production....

I need BUD and lots of it... Cuz I like to smoke mj!

If there was any reason to want to be born 300+ years ago.. It is because marijuana was legal...

haha think about that the great, great, grandparents of the faggots arresting people for marijuana probably smoked and grew it themselves, there idiot offspring is just full of themselves though and think the world was created for them alone.

O well I always try to leave some room for Karma to come back around...
 

supersillybilly

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Its happened to me a few times and Im sure its happened to countless others, thats all the proof I need. Mother Nature finds a way. Honest my friend, try it. Grow your plant till its nearly dead and she will fling out a few seeds
 

Undercover Cop

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Its happened to me a few times and Im sure its happened to countless others, thats all the proof I need. Mother Nature finds a way. Honest my friend, try it. Grow your plant till its nearly dead and she will fling out a few seeds
Grow her till she's nearly dead and in an attempt to continue her genetics, she will switch and grow one or two hermie bananas right in the middle of her buds that will be too small to even see, especially when its sandwiched right in the middle of a cluster of resin packed swollen buds... it only takes one tiny banana in a bud to open, then most of that bud will produce seed. The plant spontaneously throwing off a seed is similar to immaculate conception, it wont happen (but thats a whole different argument for Talk n Toke if you need to) Hermaphodism is a genetic trait common in MJ, but is uncommon overall in the plant world because few plants have specificly gendered plants (Hops being another that does) All MJ plants have the capability to go Herm, its a self preservation tactic that kicks in when a plant is stressed, and its careful/selective breeding that reduces their inclination to switch. If you give a strain with good genetics good growing conditions it is unlikely to switch... stress it, like letting it go until nearly dead and yeah it will express the hermie trait. Just cuz you dont see the male flowers develop, they're tiny tiny tiny and hidden by the fat swollen buds, thats what caused the seeds, genetics not magic. Good genetics can withstand stress better and are less likely to switch, shitty genetics can be almost 100% hermie due to generations of plants being allowed to inbreed without discression. the strongest survives, and if a plant doesnt become polinated naturally and is able to polinate itself if needed, that plants lines will continue because it survived, where as the sinsimilla did not.

As a side note, I just germed 15 seeds in Sep... 14 were mexican brick bagseeds and one unknown kindbud bagseed... the kindbud is the most beautiful indica Ive ever seen... ALL 14 OTHERS WERE MALE/HERMIE.
 

Undercover Cop

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where is the proof on that page cannabis can make seeds without pollen involved. i googled that myself and looked through multiple pages and i didnt see it. if someone can tell me how a cannabis plant can make seeds without pollen involved i'm still game though. thanks

stress induced hermaphodism, its gonna die an old widow with no kids, so as a last ditch effort to continue her line, she produces a few male flowers and pollinates herself. Although they will be inbred and be more likely to be mutants or hermies themselves, they are still her babies and she can then die having completed her circle.
I unfortunately cannot tell you how to do it without pollen at all, try dipping a bud into robitussin about a week before harvest, I heard that will do it. Honest my friend, try it lol. (That prop would give you seeds! stress the shit outta her with some Robo and she prob will give you a stress 'nanner lol!)
 

darkdestruction420

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stress induced hermaphodism, its gonna die an old widow with no kids, so as a last ditch effort to continue her line, she produces a few male flowers and pollinates herself. Although they will be inbred and be more likely to be mutants or hermies themselves, they are still her babies and she can then die having completed her circle.
I unfortunately cannot tell you how to do it without pollen at all, try dipping a bud into robitussin about a week before harvest, I heard that will do it. Honest my friend, try it lol. (That prop would give you seeds! stress the shit outta her with some Robo and she prob will give you a stress 'nanner lol!)
I did not dispute that part. I know plants will do that late in flower and all that. The part i disputed was seeds being made with no pollen involved. thanks though.
 

zo0t

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br0

LIGHT-POISONING METHOD: During the first three weeks of flowering, turn the lights on for an hour during the middle of the dark period. That is, 12 hrs. on, 5.5 hrs. off, 1 hr. on, 5.5 hrs. off, and repeat for the first 3 weeks, after which you may return to the normal 12/12 light cycle. This causes a plant to go "hermie" and pollinate itself, as well as any other female in the room. You must use plants originating only from female seeds or clones to ensure that no male chromosomes are present. The resulting seeds will produce NO MALE PLANTS!


peece br0
 

Undercover Cop

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Copying and pasting some other Joes post does not qualify as proof. Thats not how feminized seeds are produced. Remember Mendel the monk, he was discussed in 8th grade science class. X's and Y's and all that.

and thats that, I wont converse with someone who cant spell.
 
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