Who Else Knows That Ron Paul will NEVER be President?

[Parker]

Really sad to see people agreeing with segregation ....

People are not agreeing with segregation. Only a fool would see that.

The whole point of the Civil rights era was to stop discrimination ...

Government made Jim Crow laws, Government also did very little to reverse them. It was the people through demonstrations that made the change. Government came along after the fact.

I guess some will never understand unless it happens to them on an everyday bases...

that's because you're stupid enough to believe it. That's no ones fault but yours.

I'm glad that this country has made changes that makes everyone able to be treated fairly ( in most cases, but still has some ways to go) ... The Civil Rights Act repealed the notorious Jim Crow laws; forced schools, bathrooms and buses to desegregate; and banned employment discrimination. Now if you feel that it was wrong to do this then I guess that says a lot about your person.

The ones who believe in it believe in the foundation of our country. We believe in freedom and not to use force unless in self defense. YOU on the other hand are a piece of shit who uses force to get what you want.

When the House of Representatives took up a resolution "recognizing and honoring the 40th anniversary of congressional passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964." Ron Paul was the only member who voted "no." So to him I also say NO .. and Nodrama you comparing the Civil Rights Act to child molestation was very weak, but when you are on the wrong side of the fence trying to defend your stance, you will always tend to come off that way...

Because you don't believe in freedom and liberty except when you want to. You're nothing but a pathetic control freak who wants to run others lives for them because you think you know better. Get your own country and crown yourself king.

 

[Parker]

are you seriously trying to argue that segregation and denial of service did not cause harm?

because it is not my opinion that it caused harm, it is historical fact.

that dog won't hunt.

You made that up. Show proof it did. Because I wont give you an apple that somehow harms you princess?

 

[UncleBuck]

Government made Jim Crow laws, Government also did very little to reverse them. It was the people through demonstrations that made the change. Government came along after the fact.

clarification: it was state governments who implemented and desperately held onto jim crow laws (ron paul likes state governments).

federal government put an end to jim crow laws when petitioned by the people for a redress of grievances. (ron paul is not so hot on federal governments).

most of the rest of what you write is hogwash and insults that i won't bother with.

 

[UncleBuck]

You made that up. Show proof it did. Because I wont give you an apple that somehow harms you princess?

that discriminatory practices caused harm is something i "made up"?

FUCK YOU.

go read a history book.

 

[londonfog]

You don't know what rights are and you cannot redefine what they are, so why comment? You do not have a right to anothers property. That is called theft. You do not have the right to enter someone house. That is called trespassing. You can be granted the privilege to do so by the property owner. Learn the difference between rights and privileges.

Excuse me but I think you are confuse as to what public and private property is... If you want to open a private club to do business then fine ..DO IT...but if you are doing public business dealing with interstate commerce then you will abide by the laws of this nation ( which is to treat everyone fairly )... if you don't like it ...MOVE .....really sad to see people argue on treating humans fairly

 

[Parker]

since when are we talking about trespassing? stop being silly. this is ridiculous.

because you're too stupid to know any better. My property means no one can go on it unless I give my permission. My work is my property. get it now?

it is YOU who does not know what a right is. being able to hang a "no negroes served" sign at your restaurant is not a "right",

yes it is a right you fool. You don't get to redefine what rights are in order to fit your bullshit agenda.

as it causes harm to others. your right to do anything ends when it causes harm to others.

It does not cause harm to others. I am not using force. because you're a crybaby and dont get what you want that doesn't mean I'm harming you. Mommy wont give me cookies, she's harming me. Another one stuck in the entitlement trap.

fucking theft and trespassing? weak, weak shit.

The only thing weak is your inability to understand the truth. YOU dont get to redeine words. Come back when you understand what a right is. Otherwise keep playing with your turtles and other make believe friends.

 

[beardo]

Aren't gated communites and low income housing just modern forms of seggragation?

 

[UncleBuck]

Excuse me but I think you are confuse as to what public and private property is... If you want to open a private club to do business then fine ..DO IT...but if you are doing public business dealing with interstate commerce then you will abide by the laws of this nation ( which is to treat everyone fairly )... if you don't like it ...MOVE .....really sad to see people argue on treating humans fairly

good to see you back, you were gone for a while. hope all is well.

it's also sad to see some seemingly intelligent members deny that treating people unfairly caused them harm. it is not some wild theory, it is documented history.

 

[londonfog]

Have you ever tried to apply for a scolarship from the united negro collage fund?
Let me tell you their some racist bastards

Nope but I have made contributions to them.

 

[londonfog]

good to see you back, you were gone for a while. hope all is well.

it's also sad to see some seemingly intelligent members deny that treating people unfairly caused them harm. it is not some wild theory, it is documented history.

All is great... Sometimes its just good to unplug for a bit ... Got a lot accomplished... Funny how you can go away for a spell and still come back to the same old conversations..

 

[UncleBuck]

because you're too stupid to know any better. My property means no one can go on it unless I give my permission. My work is my property. get it now?

the only way i could be trespassing at a public gas station or hotel or diner is if i were blocked from the premises for some sort of crime or behavior, not simply for the color of my skin.

remember, we are not talking about private country clubs, we are talking about supposedly public accommodations.

yes it is a right you fool. You don't get to redefine what rights are in order to fit your bullshit agenda.

i have a right to swing my fist. so if you just so happen to walk into my swinging fist, that is your fault and you cannot call it assault. make sense?

It does not cause harm to others. I am not using force. because you're a crybaby and dont get what you want that doesn't mean I'm harming you. Mommy wont give me cookies, she's harming me. Another one stuck in the entitlement trap.

wanting to not be discriminated against and to not be treated unfairly is not some sort of entitlement attitude, now you are sounding like a bigot.

and stop trying to rewrite history, EVERYONE KNOWS that discrimination and unfair treatment caused harm.

The only thing weak is your inability to understand the truth. YOU dont get to redeine words. Come back when you understand what a right is. Otherwise keep playing with your turtles and other make believe friends.

keep throwing the insults. it lets me know that you have nothing substantive to say.

 

[Parker]

Excuse me but I think you are confuse as to what public and private property is... If you want to open a private club to do business then fine ..DO IT...but if you are doing public business dealing with interstate commerce then you will abide by the laws of this nation ( which is to treat everyone fairly )... if you don't like it ...MOVE .....really sad to see people argue on treating humans fairly

I have no problem and neither did Ron Paul with public property being part of the Civil Rights Act. The rub is when government uses force on private property owners.
No one is arguing about treating people fairly. Only a fool would think government treats people fairly. Were they treating people fairly with Jim Crow laws? Did they treat the Japanese descendants fairly when they imprisoned them during WW2 and took their property?
Does government treat pot smokers fairly when they throw them in prison for doing nothing except smoking a plant while not intruding on the rights of others? Use your head for something other than inhaling.
Like I said you only want to use freedom and liberty when it suits you. You're nothing but a control freak. No different than the ones who denied interracial marriages. It is the role of society not the role of government to deal with bigotry and racism. That is why businesses who serve only a small segment of society cut their own throat. the free market tells us this. Why fish in a small pond and think you'll succeed when others are fishing from a bigger pond?

 

[UncleBuck]

All is great... Sometimes its just good to unplug for a bit ... Got a lot accomplished... Funny how you can go away for a spell and still come back to the same old conversations..

this one seems to have just resurfaced now that ron paul did not win iowa as all of his worshippers thought. now they are freaking out....

 

[londonfog]

this one seems to have just resurfaced now that ron paul did not win iowa as all of his worshippers thought. Now they are freaking out....

rofl ........

 

[Parker]

the only way i could be trespassing at a public gas station or hotel or diner is if i were blocked from the premises for some sort of crime or behavior, not simply for the color of my skin.
remember, we are not talking about private country clubs, we are talking about supposedly public accommodations.

Government can makes rules concerning public property that is paid for by the people. Private property is different.

i have a right to swing my fist. so if you just so happen to walk into my swinging fist, that is your fault and you cannot call it assault. make sense?

LMAO No it doesn't make sense. I am property, You are physically causing harm to me. You cannot physically cause harm to someone by denying them a job

wanting to not be discriminated against and to not be treated unfairly is not some sort of entitlement attitude, now you are sounding like a bigot.

You think that because you're an idiot who is trying to make it about me, nice try. It has nothing to do with bigotry and everything to do with freedom. Bigots DO have the right to be bigots. It doesn't mean they are correct it just means they should be allowed to do something as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others.

and stop trying to rewrite history, EVERYONE KNOWS that discrimination and unfair treatment caused harm.

no one is rewriting history. You are trying to rewrite the definition to fit your blinded, forceful agenda. Quit using force to get what you want. It doesn't matter if you think you are being noble. It doesn't matter if I agree with you on the subject that racism is repugnant either. You plainly cannot use force to get what you want. It's never worked before and it always violates property rights.

keep throwing the insults. it lets me know that you have nothing substantive to say.

Soon as you pull your head out and quit trying to rewrite the dictionary.

 

[UncleBuck]

I have no problem and neither did Ron Paul with public property being part of the Civil Rights Act. The rub is when government uses force on private property owners.
No one is arguing about treating people fairly. Only a fool would think government treats people fairly. Were they treating people fairly with Jim Crow laws? Did they treat the Japanese descendants fairly when they imprisoned them during WW2 and took their property?
Does government treat pot smokers fairly when they throw them in prison for doing nothing except smoking a plant while not intruding on the rights of others? Use your head for something other than inhaling.
Like I said you only want to use freedom and liberty when it suits you. You're nothing but a control freak. No different than the ones who denied interracial marriages. It is the role of society not the role of government to deal with bigotry and racism. That is why businesses who serve only a small segment of society cut their own throat. the free market tells us this. Why fish in a small pond and think you'll succeed when others are fishing from a bigger pond?

now you are straying away from discussing the civil rights act because you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[Parker]

this one seems to have just resurfaced now that ron paul did not win iowa as all of his worshippers thought. now they are freaking out....

That's the thing about you living in a dream world. You usually make things up to fit a blinded agenda. But you know better the reasons why people do things more so than the people themselves, right control freak?
People who believe in freedom and liberty always fight for it. Make up what you want, it's your pathetic dream world. That is your right to do so. Course it doesn't mean you are right.

 

[UncleBuck]

Government can makes rules concerning public property that is paid for by the people. Private property is different.

that private property is supposedly "open to the public".

LMAO No it doesn't make sense. I am property, You are physically causing harm to me. You cannot physically cause harm to someone by denying them a job

your definition of harm as being purely physical is naively narrow.

if i run a construction business and am denied service at the top shelf supply store because of the color of my skin and am thus forced to shop at the second hand supply store, than my business has been harmed.

You think that because you're an idiot. It has nothing to do with bigotry and everything to do with freedom. Bigots DO have the right to be bigots. It doesn't mean they are correct it just means they should be allowed to do something as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others.

more insults

bigots have the right to be bigots UNTIL it infringes on the rights of others, which empirical evidence shows us was the case.

notice how i articulated a rebuttal WITHOUT using insults? take a lesson.

no one is rewriting history. You are trying to rewrite the definition to fit your blinded, forceful agenda. Quit using force to get what you want. It doesn't matter if you think you are being noble. It doesn't matter if I agree with you on the subject that racism is repugnant either. You plainly cannot use force to get what you want. It's never worked before and it always violates property rights.

discrimination caused harm. outlawing it via civil rights WORKED. historical fact.

riddle me this: when did they stop publishing the green book for negro travelers?

Soon as you pull your head out and quit trying to rewrite the dictionary.

i am not rewriting anything. you are the one trying to define harm as purely physical. i am reminding you that harm need not be purely physical.

so stop insulting or i will simply delete your posts.

 

[Parker]

now you are straying away from discussing the civil rights act because you don't have a leg to stand on.

Everything I said pertains to the Civil Rights movement. It has to do with property rights. How wrong can you be in one thread?

 

[UncleBuck]

People who believe in freedom and liberty always fight for it.

that's what i am doing right now.

the thing you may not get is that freedom and liberty are yours to enjoy UNTIL they cause harm to others.

the freedom to bar people from supposedly public places of business caused harm. thus it is not a right.

this is recorded history. deal with it.