Death to roots..how high is your clorine or chloramine PLEASE READ

Oldgrowerdude

Oldgrowerdude

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I killed 12 clones twice and ruined the sprouting of 14 seeds I had never heard of this chemical...but it kills hydro grows by killing all roots......shame the local grow shop didn't warn of this!:cuss::cuss::cuss::eyesmoke:
 
Oldgrowerdude

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No what I said the problem wasn't chlorine but a new chemical they are using in the place of chlorine because it's much cheaper so watch your water bill if they switch over you will need a filter system to remove the chloramine

this stuff kills roots fast like in 1 to 2 days the plants are dead.... So weather you believe or don't just wanted to leave a heads up this whole issue has cost me about $400 dollars when said and done..
 
unohu69

unohu69

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know it doesnt evaporate out of the water like chlorine will. never had a problem with tap tho. sometimes its all i have. if was lazy and dint prepare water.
 
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Long Dogg

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We drink that water.

If it is ok for us to drink, its ok for the plants. Your plants are dying for other reasons I think. Too many for me to say what it is.

I had a similar issue, I fixed the temps, better airflow, learning my medium (coco), killing the fucking fungus gnats and now everything is good
 
dbkick

dbkick

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I agree with most here, it wasn't the chloramine that killed your clones, I live in the denver area and have been using water straight out of the tap from day one. I've just recently hooked up the smallboy again(gonna do some organics or I'd just continue with straight tap). I tested a sample straight from the tap and it tested for a pretty good amount of chlorine ( I don't know if there's a test for chloramine but intend to find out), if they are using chloramine here it's showing as chlorine in a test, the sample run thru the smallboy tested no chlorine. True chloramine doesn't outgas as quickly as chlorine . I've read (other than filtering) the way to remove chloramine is to add chlorine to the water and then subject it to UV light(the sun for instance).
 
del66666

del66666

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Oldgrowerdude said:
No what I said the problem wasn't chlorine but a new chemical they are using in the place of chlorine because it's much cheaper so watch your water bill if they switch over you will need a filter system to remove the chloramine

this stuff kills roots fast like in 1 to 2 days the plants are dead.... So weather you believe or don't just wanted to leave a heads up this whole issue has cost me about $400 dollars when said and done..
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i think we have it in our water already..have for years....
 
del66666

del66666

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dbkick said:
I agree with most here, it wasn't the chloramine that killed your clones, I live in the denver area and have been using water straight out of the tap from day one. I've just recently hooked up the smallboy again(gonna do some oraganics or I'd just continue with straight tap). I tested a sample straight from the tap and it tested for a pretty good amount of chlorine ( I don't know if there's a test for chloramine but intend to find out), if they are using chloramine here it's showing as chlorine in a test, the sample run thru the smallboy tested no chlorine. True chloramine doesn't outgas as quickly as chlorine . I've read (other than filtering) the way to remove chloramine is to add chlorine to the water and then subject it to UV light(the sun for instance).
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or go buy some stuff they use to remove both chemicals for fish keeping..............
 
dbkick

dbkick

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del66666 said:
or go buy some stuff they use to remove both chemicals for fish keeping..............
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eh? I've never looked into that but think the filter I use is fine, I may replace the cartridges but the sample I tested came out nice and clean.
 
del66666

del66666

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dbkick said:
eh? I've never looked into that but think the filter I use is fine, I may replace the cartridges but the sample I tested came out nice and clean.
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ive never filtered or removed the chemicals...........my plants dont seem to care...
 
dbkick

dbkick

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I dunno how new this chloramine thing is but its nothing more than chlorine with ammonia , I can see how the addition of ammonia may cause problems but I don't know. levels would have to be pretty high I'd think.
 
del66666

del66666

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dbkick said:
I dunno how new this chloramine thing is but its nothing more than chlorine with ammonia , I can see how the addition of ammonia may cause problems but I don't know. levels would have to be pretty high I'd think.
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like someone said if its good enough to drink.......
 
dbkick

dbkick

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well, yeah that's the way I feel about it but there's others who say chloramine is causing health problems.
 
Oldgrowerdude

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I have grown for over 35 years in several states and different water supplies. I never had a problem with chlorine in the water, until I moved to Denver where they use Chloramene in the water. Being I grow hydroponically only, this was an issue. I researched the chemical chloramene thoroughly, it is not the chlorine, it is the amonia that is a by-product of chloramene that causes major root damage to any plant that you treat, especially hydro-pot. The amonia kills roots in two to three days and causes seeds not to sprout. The amonia by product does not evaporate, it has to be filtered out with a chlorine filter such as charcoal or reverse osmosis. I know this from working in a chemical analysis lab for three years. Believe me, I considered the issues you stated, but they were not the logical cause for the issues I was having. My emphasis in this matter is to make people aware of this issue and to give thought about what is in the water you are using to grow plants. It may be safe for human consumption but death for plant roots.
 
Oldgrowerdude

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I agree with most here, it wasn't the chloramine that killed your clones, I live in the denver area and have been using water straight out of the tap from day one. I've just recently hooked up the smallboy again(gonna do some organics or I'd just continue with straight tap). I tested a sample straight from the tap and it tested for a pretty good amount of chlorine ( I don't know if there's a test for chloramine but intend to find out), if they are using chloramine here it's showing as chlorine in a test, the sample run thru the smallboy tested no chlorine. True chloramine doesn't outgas as quickly as chlorine . I've read (other than filtering) the way to remove chloramine is to add chlorine to the water and then subject it to UV light(the sun for instance).​
QUOTE....Hope these clears the issue...






I did check with a local testing lab and they said it wasen't the chloramene in the water but the by product of the chemical that killed the roots, to the gentlleman from Denver , it wasen't the chemical but AMONIA buy product....besides im not on denver water supply I live in Englewood with a different source than I have. Bleieve me I checked it out thourly...luckly it can be filtered out as I am doing and what a DIFFERENCE it made with the clones.lush and green now


THIS WILL BE THE LAST POST I DO ON THIS SUBJECT AS SO MANY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.the fact of the matter is a lot of citys are starting to us it

1) it's cheaper and easier to apply no gas...so as citys trim cost, this is one of the easy budget cuts or soon will...

This is a serious problem to hydro grows there dosent seem to bother soil ... but hydro it KILLS, Just a warrning to serious hydro growers
 
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