Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year

hammer6913

Well-Known Member
spidermites that eat spider mites?. any thoughts on this?


[HR][/HR]
Controlling Spider MitesAndy Crossland
Adams County Master Gardener
According to Greek mythology there was once a girl named Arachne, who had great talent as a spinner and weaver. But she was arrogant about her talent and challenged the gods to a contest. During the contest she proved to be better at the loom than the goddess Athena, who became jealous and angry. She attacked Arachne and destroyed her work. In humiliation, Arachne hung herself. The goddess took pity on her and used a magic potion to change her into a small creature with many legs. The rope with which she hung herself was turned into a silken thread. It was with this thread that she was permitted to continue her spinning and weaving. Thus the spider was created.
It is from Arachne’s name that we get the word arachnid. If you have six legs you’re an insect, but if you have eight legs you’re an arachnid. Spiders, scorpions and ticks all belong to the class Arachnid. So do mites.
There are many species of mites. The two-spotted spider mite Tetranychus urticate is the most pervasive of these little arachnids and has become a worldwide pest. It destroys crops and trees. It destroys houseplants, plants in greenhouses and ornamentals in the garden. Two-spotted spider mites are very small. You will need a magnifying glass to confirm their identity. Overwintering females are reddish orange but, typically, depending on the environment and what they are eating, males and females are dark to pale green or even a translucent yellow. The two spots are distinctive. There is one dark spot on either side of the abdomen. These aren’t really spots. You are actually looking into the creature and seeing its food being digested. The food is made of plant juices.
The first sign of plant damage caused by these mites is a stippling pattern on the leaves. Look for a series of small dots that are brown. This is where the mites have pierced the leaf to get at the juices. Leaves under severe attack will turn either a yellow or bronze color. They may also begin to curl as they dry out. Once the damage reaches a certain level, there will be no recovery. Photosynthesis is halted. Carbon dioxide can no longer be processed. The leaf will eventually drop off. If enough leaves are attacked, the plant will die. The two-spotted spider mite lays its eggs amid a mass of white webbing on the underside of the leaves. This webbing is made of silken threads that the mites also use to get about the plant. If left unchecked, they will eventually wrap the entire plant with these threads, making it look like a Halloween decoration.
The adult mites needs to get rid of excess moisture on a constant basis. This is done through evaporation. Mites are most active when temperatures are warm and humidity is low or moderate. Under these conditions mites eat more and reproduce more often. If it gets very humid and very hot, above 104 degrees, they suffer the lethargy that we all tend to feel under such conditions. They eat less and reproduce less because the rate of evaporation is diminished. A strong winter will bring their activities to a halt. In a mild winter they slow down but may still continue to eat and reproduce. And in the warm home or greenhouse, they won’t slow down at all.
The success of the two-spotted spider mite is due to several factors. First, reproductive rates are astonishing. One female can lay up to 200 hundred eggs over a ten-day period. In as little as five days, an egg can develop into a mature adult. With seven or more generations being produced during the summer months, the population can obviously get out of control very quickly. As a group, the two-spot is made extremely durable by its genetic make up. Females develop from fertilized eggs and have two sets of chromosomes. Even if they don’t mate, females still give rise to males, but only males. Females that do mate can produce both males and females. Males have only one set of chromosomes. This means they are highly susceptible to mutation. They adapt, and quickly, to changes in their environment. For instance, some of the chemicals that were once lethal to them are no longer effective. If we spray with these chemicals now, and they happen to kill enemies of the spider mite, then the mite population is free to expand. And expand it does. What is to be done?
Mechanical Control
If you find spider mites are damaging your plants, isolate those plants. This should be done because of the numerous means of travel available to the mite. The air is never still. Variations in temperature cause it to move. The two-spot is so light that it uses these variations as a means of transport. They drop down from the leaves on strands of silken thread. They are then carried by the moving air to neighboring plants, much like Tarzan moves from tree to tree on vines. Just walking by a plant we cause the air to move and thus provide the mites with express transport. Also, they have eight legs, so walking is not a problem. They may just drop to the ground and walk to a new home site.
So, first: isolate.
One means of control is to use a stream of cold water from the hose to knock the mites from the plant. This can be effective. But be careful: if the stream of water is too powerful, you may damage the plant. And be sure to spray the underside of the leaves. Also move the plant away from its usual resting place before setting the hose on it. The water from the hose may kill a few through drowning, but it is mostly a means of removal. The mites will want to climb right back up onto the plant once the hose is put away. Spraying the plant with ice water every day for a week, again being sure to spray the entire plant, especially the undersides of the leaves, has been reported to eliminate infestation as they are inhibited by cool, damp conditions. Cold water or ice water creates an unfriendly environment, especially when applied on a regular basis. Actually, before pesticides were available, the cold-water treatment was the main means of control.
Biological Control
If you have mice in your house and you get a cat to take care of the problem, then you have just practiced what is known as ‘biological control.’ You have introduced a predator into the unwanted population. You have no mice anymore. But you do now have a cat. This is the danger of biological control. A new concern may arise from the species that has been introduced. It can exemplify the adage ‘the cure is worse than the disease.’ With regard to the two-spot there is a means of biological control that has proven effective and, surprisingly, the introduced predator, takes care of itself. It is called Phytoseiulus persimilis.
This is truly a case of mite versus mite. Phytoseiulus is a mite, but it doesn’t feed on plants. It eats mites. Once they have eaten all the two-spotted spider mites, they turn on themselves. They eat each other. Voila! The mice are gone. And so is the cat.
Chemical control
WiltPruf is a chemical available at most garden supply stores. It is designed to be used during times of drought. It slows evaporation of water through plant leaves by covering the leaves with a thin film. This is harmless to the plant when used as directed. Try spraying the mites with this product. The theory here is that since the two-spot is so dependent on evaporation for its survival, a coating of Wiltpruf prevents that evaporation and the mites die. It does not kill the eggs. Apply three times at five day intervals.
UltraFine is a highly refined petroleum oil spray that will kill both the mites and their eggs. Repeat the application in ten days or so in case you missed eggs or mites on the first application. Remember: get the underside of the leaves as well as the top sides and use caution on soft-leaved plants as foliage damage can occur.
Rose Defense Spray by Greenlight is a botanical oil from the seed of the neem tree that smothers the mites but is gentle on the plants.
Isopropyl alcohol and water at a 50% dilution with a few drops of dishwashing detergent to a quart is an effective mitecide. It’s best to spray it in early morning or late in the day when evaporation is slower. If possible repeating the application 15-20 minutes later will ensure complete control.
We’ve found no damage to foliage even with repeated treatment which can be done at a 4-5 day interval in case a few stray mites were missed. Avid is another well-known chemical that will kill the mites. Be careful. Follow the instructions on the label. If you can’t find any of these chemicals and you decide to try something else, just remember that these critters have eight legs. They are not insects. You are looking for a miticide.
If you are having problems with these mites, or have questions about other aspects of plant care, please call you local Master Gardener Office.
 

hic

Well-Known Member
hey kindone, that sounds like fun. unfortunately with my back injury i cant backpak.. lol.. have a good time man. always wanted to go to the islands.. if it had a road id bring my bike. lol.
.

You can go. The rest of us will throw your shit in our backpacks. I will haul your sleeping bag. I am down for a nature hike.

Morning boys.
 

hic

Well-Known Member
I think the story was great hammer. My thought is that YES the spider mites are at the bottom of some food chain. Perhaps growing a plant that eats bugs would work inside your growroom as well. Veenus flytraps would be an option. Black sticky mouse traps work as well.
 

hammer6913

Well-Known Member
this came to my journal via scarhole. they say if ya put it in the ground u dont have to do it again..


Try Bayer advanced with imidocloprid. (synthetic nicotine)
One treatment will do it. It's systemic an is absorbed into the plant threw the roots.
UncleBen called it the silver bullet aginst bugs.
Kills em at parts per BILLION an is safe to us.
It's usable on fruits an vegetables.

ima try this when i can get to town..
 

Sailor Jerry

Well-Known Member
Just got my butane and Turkey baster in the mail. Tomorrow im going to go help a caregiver use up some of his trim. I think I'm going to make some Pink Champagne crossed with Master Kush BHO.

I got 6 3oz cans of Colibri on amazon.com
 

Shwagbag

Well-Known Member
this came to my journal via scarhole. they say if ya put it in the ground u dont have to do it again..


Try Bayer advanced with imidocloprid. (synthetic nicotine)
One treatment will do it. It's systemic an is absorbed into the plant threw the roots.
UncleBen called it the silver bullet aginst bugs.
Kills em at parts per BILLION an is safe to us.
It's usable on fruits an vegetables.

ima try this when i can get to town..
Was Uncle Ben an organic gardener? Just wondering if it harms the colony at all. If not, it sounds like its worth a try.
 

Sailor Jerry

Well-Known Member
Ran the butane through the trim to receive quite a lovely sized nugget of BHO. This shit is killer. I smoked 2 bb sized dabs on my titanium skillet and I had to sit down. It tastes a lot better than the ISO hash I have left over from my summer harvest's trim. I think its a lot more potent as well. I'll try to post some pics once something pries me off of the recliner.
 

midwestmmj

Well-Known Member
After living in the shadows I'm finnally movin to michigan to get legal. Couldn't have gotten to where I a without everyone knowledge. Thanks guys :)
 

Shwagbag

Well-Known Member
Ran the butane through the trim to receive quite a lovely sized nugget of BHO. This shit is killer. I smoked 2 bb sized dabs on my titanium skillet and I had to sit down. It tastes a lot better than the ISO hash I have left over from my summer harvest's trim. I think its a lot more potent as well. I'll try to post some pics once something pries me off of the recliner.
Lol, that shit is wicked potent. I can't smoke that unless I don't have anything to do for 12 hours.
 

Sailor Jerry

Well-Known Member
Well, I ordered some Iranian auto flower from Dr green thumb for next summer's season. I'm going to clone it and breed one of the clones for feminized seeds. I have a friend who made me some colloidal silver for inducing male flowers to grow. I want to get some clones started in april so I can put them outdoors when they're like 2-3 feet tall in June.
 

hammer6913

Well-Known Member
Was Uncle Ben an organic gardener? Just wondering if it harms the colony at all. If not, it sounds like its worth a try.
hey schwag


i bought some of the bayer advanced ... the active ingredient is imidacloprid @ 0.23%.. also it says not to use on crops grown for sale or commercial use, outdoor use.. season long protection... ima try it. $14.77 32 fl oz. hope it helps ya
 

Shwagbag

Well-Known Member
hey schwag


i bought some of the bayer advanced ... the active ingredient is imidacloprid @ 0.23%.. also it says not to use on crops grown for sale or commercial use, outdoor use.. season long protection... ima try it. $14.77 32 fl oz. hope it helps ya
Thanks Hammer! The Blue Widow is coming along but I'm not impressed with my genetics. I'm going to start feeding aggressively and see if I can improve her potential. So far, not impressed with what I have. I hope she can start to come around b/c she's taking up a lot of space! Will try to get a pic for you soon.
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
Ran the butane through the trim to receive quite a lovely sized nugget of BHO. This shit is killer. I smoked 2 bb sized dabs on my titanium skillet and I had to sit down. It tastes a lot better than the ISO hash I have left over from my summer harvest's trim. I think its a lot more potent as well. I'll try to post some pics once something pries me off of the recliner.
You still on that chair? I wanna see pics:)
 
Top