Absurdity

Zaehet Strife

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In philosophy, "The Absurd" refers to the conflict between the human tendency to seek value and meaning in life and the human inability to find any. In this context absurd does not mean "logically impossible," but rather "humanly impossible." The universe and the human mind do not each separately cause the Absurd, but rather, the Absurd arises by the contradictory nature of the two existing simultaneously. Absurdism, therefore, is a philosophical school of thought stating that the efforts of humanity to find inherent meaning will ultimately fail (and hence are absurd) because the sheer amount of information, including the vast unknown, makes certainty impossible. As a philosophy, absurdism also explores the fundamental nature of the Absurd and how individuals, once becoming conscious of the Absurd, should react to it. The Absurd arises out of the fundamental disharmony between the individual's search for meaning and the apparent meaninglessness of the universe. As beings looking for meaning in a meaningless world, humans have three ways of resolving the dilemma.

1. Suicide (or, "escaping existence"): a solution in which a person simply ends one's own life. Both Kierkegaard and Camus dismiss the viability of this option. Camus states that it does not counter the Absurd, but only becomes more absurd, to end one's own existence. For Camus, suicide is a "confession" that life is not worth living; it is a choice implicitly declaring that life is "too much." Suicide offers the most basic "way out" of absurdity: the immediate termination of the self and its place in the universe.

2. The absurd encounter can also arouse a "leap of faith," a term derived from one of Kierkegaard's early pseudonyms (although the term was not used by Kierkegaard himself), where one believes that there is more than the rational life (aesthetic or ethical). To take a "leap of faith," one must act with the "virtue of the absurd" where a suspension of the ethical may need to exist. This faith has no expectations, but is a flexible power initiated by an ignoration of the absurd. (Although at some point, one recognizes or encounters the existence of the Absurd and, in response, actively ignores it.) Camus considers the leap of faith as "philosophical suicide," rejecting both this and physical suicide.

3. Lastly, a person can choose to embrace his or her own absurd condition. According to Camus, one's freedom – and the opportunity to give life meaning – lies in the recognition of absurdity. If the absurd experience is truly the realization that the universe is fundamentally devoid of absolutes, then we as individuals are truly free. "To live without appeal," as he puts it, is a philosophical move to define absolutes and universals subjectively, rather than objectively. The freedom of humans is thus established in a human's natural ability and opportunity to create his own meaning and purpose; to decide (or think) for him- or herself. The individual becomes the most precious unit of existence, as he or she represents a set of unique ideals which can be characterized as an entire universe in its own right. In acknowledging the absurdity of seeking any inherent meaning, but continuing this search regardless, one can be happy, gradually developing his or her own meaning from the search alone.


"Thus I draw from the absurd three consequences, which are my revolt, my freedom, and my passion. By the mere activity of consciousness I transform into a rule of life what was an invitation to death, and I refuse suicide." "Revolt" here refers to the refusal of suicide and search for meaning despite the revelation of the Absurd; "Freedom" refers to the lack of imprisonment by religious devotion or others' moral codes; "Passion" refers to the most wholehearted experiencing of life, since hope has been rejected, and so it is concluded that every moment be lived fully.
 

tyler.durden

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The freedom of humans is thus established in a human's natural ability and opportunity to create his own meaning and purpose; to decide (or think) for him- or herself. The individual becomes the most precious unit of existence, as he or she represents a set of unique ideals which can be characterized as an entire universe in its own right. In acknowledging the absurdity of seeking any inherent meaning, but continuing this search regardless, one can be happy, gradually developing his or her own meaning from the search alone...
I like this part a lot...
 

Indicator

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The freedom of humans is thus established in a human's natural ability and opportunity to create his own meaning and purpose; to decide (or think) for him- or herself. The individual becomes the most precious unit of existence, as he or she represents a set of unique ideals which can be characterized as an entire universe in its own right. In acknowledging the absurdity of seeking any inherent meaning, but continuing this search regardless, one can be happy, gradually developing his or her own meaning from the search alone.

I love this kind of shit. Takes my brain all over the place!; If I accept the absurdity of searching for meaning, why, as a rational thinker, would I continue this search? Perhaps this is why I am personally jaded? You can only touch a hot stove so many times before you realize you are going to get burned!
 

scroglodyte

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"3. Lastly, a person can choose to embrace his or her own absurd condition"...................Woody Allen totally agrees, and so do I
 

Zaehet Strife

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Basically the meaning of your life is to fucking find a reason to stay alive
pretty much!! lol and even if there isn't a reason, its still alright, i don't necessarily need one to continue to live... but learning, experiencing and curiosity in itself gives me enough encouragement to stay alive, never stop learning and never stop making up ideas, never stop asking questions and never stop trying to become a better part of myself in every situation. right on blunt!

(awesome stuff guys)
 

Zaehet Strife

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Hehe, agreed. I think life is what you make it. You can choose whether or not you feel as if you are suffering, whether or not you see yourself as a victim. I think its all a matter of perspective. Maybe i think it would be better to say that some kind of suffering in life is inevitable, from your favorite toy breaking, to stubbing your toe, to losing a loved one.
 

dtp5150

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suffering can also be something as basic as thirst or hunger, being hot or cold. It is the absurdity in finding a meaning that creates greed and jealousy ( my life can only be important if I do or have xxx, that persons life must be more meaningful because they have xxx therefore I must rob them ), or ( i must have all the food to feed only MY family, because only WE are important)
 

eye exaggerate

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isnt it the buddhist who say life is suffering? sounds pretty absurd :D

...they do say that. Further, they ask that we sit still in that suffering and do not try to escape it. Quite rational, as opposed to absurd, in my view.

'Puer Aeternus', when negatively constellated, equals escape. Think Icarus.
 

dtp5150

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...they ask that we sit still in that suffering and do not try to escape it. Quite rational, as opposed to absurd...
regarding the absurdity discussed in this thread, the desire to live in a rational way is absurd as well.

PS I LOVE THIS FORUM :D

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  • In acknowledging the absurdity of seeking any inherent meaning, but continuing this search regardless, one can be happy, gradually developing his or her own meaning from the search alone. "


 
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