Random necrosis on my white widow, Very sick

0calli

0calli

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try a half or 1/3 strength feed for a lil nutes etc while she dries a bit from the flush but any time i did i waited a few days for the soil to dry a bit then fed but thats just my method
 
0calli

0calli

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i wudnt do cal mag unless your sure it cal mag deff like i said i had same and mine was ph lock in the soil and nute burn from salt buildup and i got the deff from the lock out so i fixed the soil ph by flushing with ph'd water and my problems stoped end of story
 
0calli

0calli

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i really dont think it is i think you caused with hard water thats ph was to high and ppms to high fix those then your clear
 
Roflicer

Roflicer

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Well I am saying that after I flush there will be nothing in the soil anymore so I should feed right after? Or should I just flush then let dry out?
 
lokie

lokie

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1 step at a time. I would just flush. Then at the ext watering then start 1/4 to 1/2 nutes.
 
bkbbudz

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IMHO you should prob let the roots suck some fresh water and dry for at least a day prolly more. I would let them get pretty dry again and feed the next watering. In soil they can go alot longer without being fed then in most other mediums. If you let the roots breath but still remain moist again IMHO that is prime time to re-introduce nutes.
 
Roflicer

Roflicer

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Alot of great and fantastic advice apreciate it. I flushed with 6 gallons of RO water and put it back in her tent. Hope that pans out!
 
0calli

0calli

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Dont let it dry out just wait a few days like bkk and other dude that said 1 step at a time
roflicer said:
well i am saying that after i flush there will be nothing in the soil anymore so i should feed right after? Or should i just flush then let dry out?
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cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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Roflicer said:
I watered multiple times with full strength cal-mag :( My well waters calcium hardness is 340 ppm but the thing I thought about was after I flushed with the 7.2 ph water, I immediately watered like a hour later with nutrient solution so that would have lowered the ph of the soil me thinks! Also i added a mild cal-mag solution in a foliar spray I did and the leafs look a little healthier! So should I water with cal mag or do the epsom salt thing? Im getting the soil ph tested this after noon so we are going to track down this culprit and obliterate it! :D and guise chill you're both obviously very experienced it just seems you both have stood on different sides of the same problem! Always more than 1 way to skin a rabbit amirite?
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Drop the CalMag completely. Your well water as I suspected contains enough calcium. And by adding CalMag yes you are adding Magnesium, but your also adding more calcium you do not need. Just add 1/2-3/4 tsp of epsoms salts in place of the CalMag. This will help get the two(Mg/Ca)back in proportion. See even before you mentioned you are using well water and its hardness I already pretty much figured out you issue. But then again what do I know.........And your mediums pH is what it is. Simply pouring pH watered through will not alter it. Dont worry about your mediums pH as I bet it fine.....
 
0calli

0calli

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dude shut up really your giving bad advice ok youve just jumped all over the place with this
cowboylogic said:
Drop the CalMag completely. Your well water as I suspected contains enough calcium. And by adding CalMag yes you are adding Magnesium, but your also adding more calcium you do not need. Just add 1/2-3/4 tsp of epsoms salts in place of the CalMag. This will help get the two(Mg/Ca)back in proportion. See even before you mentioned you are using well water and its hardness I already pretty much figured out you issue. But then again what do I know.........And your mediums pH is what it is. Simply pouring pH watered through will not alter it. Dont worry about your mediums pH as I bet it fine.....
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cowboylogic

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cowboylogic said:
Occurred before the flush and still deficient. You can flush again if you like but its not going to help. You should be treating a basic Magnesium deficiency...
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And 99% of deficiencies are just that, basic deficiency. If pH were an issue then most likely it would showing more symptoms than just a Mg problem. Salt build up is blamed for many. Little secret for you. Salt build has a tendency to precipitate to the TOP of the medium, showing as little crystals forming on the surface. That plants shows one issue and one issue only, a Mg def. OPs water is 7.2 which is just fine and probably just contains a bit to much calcium and/or carbonates that is throwing the balance between Ca and Mg off. The addition of epsoms salts too his diet would do them right. I have been growing container plants for decades, what would I know.......

Somewhere along the line new growers have confused the need to pH solutions such as in hydro has bled into soil growing.
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cowboylogic said:
Looks like a slight Magnesium deficiency too me. View attachment 1988001

I doubt you have lockout or lockup, the plant looks ok otherwise. Bet your pH is just fine. Cannabis does fine in soil with a pH of 6-8, near neutral being optimal.
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Magnesium (Mg) deficiency.
Magnesium deficiency will exhibit a yellowing (which may turn brown) and interveinal chlorosis beginning in the older leaves. The older leaves will be the first to develop interveinal chlorosis. Starting at leaf margin or tip and progressing inward between the veins. Notice how the veins remain somewhat green. The tips may also twist.
This can be quickly resolved by watering with 1 tablespoon Epsom salts/gallon of water. Try foliar feeding. That way the plants get all the nitrogen and Mg they need. The plants can be foliar feed at ½ teaspoon/quart of Epsom salts (first powdered and dissolved in some hot water). When mixing up soil, use 2 teaspoon dolomite lime per gallon of soil.
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All over the place? Been on the same path from the start. Sorry you cannot face the facts, you dont know near as much as you think.
 
0calli

0calli

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trust me dude more than just me saying this about you read iot about you seen you being a farce in other threads when you were proved wrong on many ocassion

but imma stop because i dont need to validate myself with you or

take this thread of course from what its here for and being a hijacking troll

so if ya wana go at me then do it else when beside someone elses thread
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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0calli said:
trust me dude more than just me saying this about you read iot about you seen you being a farce in other threads when you were proved wrong on many ocassion

but imma stop because i dont need to validate myself with you or

take this thread of course from what its here for and being a hijacking troll

so if ya wana go at me then do it else when beside someone elses thread
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I have only posted my opinions, nothing more or less, never a name or bash. Seems you have that corner covered though, thanks man......
 
jojo2002

jojo2002

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I had similar issues Jack gives a good explanation on soil pH.. https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/500937-soil-ph-problem-not-2.html#post6930098 I also came to the conclusion on my side that I was feeding too much Ca leading to lock out of Mg... Not sure what the pH of Roots 707 might be... I would def flush with RO water and same time test pH of soil.. Test soil pH by getting a some soil in a small container with pour some water swirl let it sit for 15-20min than test the pH..Domolite lime is nice addition to your soil if you don't have any helps stabilize pH... Good luck
 
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