How much does it cost you to prouce per ounce?

bob harris

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Do you use your light's the same way all the time. I have 3 400's 3 600's 3 1000s (one of those is a growzilla with dual light and I go 600hps and 400 mh blue). I am switching shit up all the time, building walls. Fuck dude. I bought the 3 400's with a tent set-up (mortgage lifter fucking $2500 on ebay) I just plan on using them for veg. Do you use any as supplemental lighting for sides or just veg.

Started in a 4x4 tent with one 600...now ive built an actual grow room and run 2 600 watt hps with 6, 100 watt leds for "supplemental lighting" over a 4 x 6 flowering area.. Plus 2, 4 ft 4 bulb t5 fixtures in the veg room. But it's probably taken 2 years of ":growing pains" to get what I needed to grow consistently good crops.
 

st0wandgrow

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Simple question...I figure it costs me about 60 per oz in total expenses....that's a one person, 6 in flower 6 in veg rotation running tons of lights, co2 a/c dehumidifier and all the goodies. Just wondering what others feel it costs to produce...

That should be produce in the title..won't let me edit...


$10 bucks tops.
 

Buddy Ganga

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Do you use your light's the same way all the time. I have 3 400's 3 600's 3 1000s (one of those is a growzilla with dual light and I go 600hps and 400 mh blue). I am switching shit up all the time, building walls. Fuck dude. I bought the 3 400's with a tent set-up (mortgage lifter fucking $2500 on ebay) I just plan on using them for veg. Do you use any as supplemental lighting for sides or just veg.
1 veg tent, a 4x4x6'3 laying on it's side we have 3 400 watt 2 hoods and 1 reflector.
Giving us a floor space of 4x6'3.
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Then we send them into the pre flower, a 4x4x6'3 with two 400 watt reflectors.

Then it's into one of 2 4x8x6'3 flower tents. They start under 600's (first 4 weeks) and finish under 1000's.
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We also use a 5x5x5'6 tent with a 1000 raptor for when we flower mothers or larger freak plants.
We also throw in a 4x4 flower here and there for specific strains under a 600.
 

Buddy Ganga

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16 to 18 inch's for the 600's and 20 to 24 for the 1000's.
Ushio's run a little hotter then a lot of other bulbs.
 

Cory and trevor

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Oh bob. Thanks for the question, refigured it up for the last month and WITHOUT labor I'm coming in around 17/zip down from 25/zip a year ago. Again, without labor
 

roosba

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I'm at about 17. not including labor. It's not really labor if you enjoy what you are doing!
 

Jack Harer

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I'm at about 17. not including labor. It's not really labor if you enjoy what you are doing!
If you sell in any manner, legal or no, labor has to factor in there somewhere. So at $40/hr, over a 60 day period (if I do a 60 day strain) an oz costs me $128 and change in labor alone. Before I get blasted for being a financial rapist, I came up with that $40/hr figure as that is $20 less than I bill my time out at the shop. In this economy, it's a wage that will allow you to live decently. How many of you want to live in bare subsistence? So......to make a PROFIT, you at least double your costs (Many retailers triple costs), which will put the rock bottom price of an ounce of my bud at $280.

This concludes MJ economics 101. Thank you for attending!! LOL!
 

boneheadbob

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I use 3 1K lights over my 4x8 table, and 4 400w lights for veg.
Wow thats a lot of light!! I will assume you feel it makes a huge increase in your yields? And thats the main reason you do?
I have one 1K and I am thinking of adding another. I grow in a spare bedroom so there is plenty of room but I dont think I get much bigger then 4x8. (12 plant limit)

Common sense says adding another 1k would increase my yield, but would it be worth it?
 

Sunbiz1

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If you sell in any manner, legal or no, labor has to factor in there somewhere. So at $40/hr, over a 60 day period (if I do a 60 day strain) an oz costs me $128 and change in labor alone. Before I get blasted for being a financial rapist, I came up with that $40/hr figure as that is $20 less than I bill my time out at the shop. In this economy, it's a wage that will allow you to live decently. How many of you want to live in bare subsistence? So......to make a PROFIT, you at least double your costs (Many retailers triple costs), which will put the rock bottom price of an ounce of my bud at $280.

This concludes MJ economics 101. Thank you for attending!! LOL!
If I were to ever decide and make this a business, I already settled on $300/oz b/c that's what the market dictates in this area. People around here are doubling their $$ re-selling commercial hermaphrodites without even knowing what they are. So I would feel no shame in charging top dollar for my hard work. If this were ever to become a medical state(which it almost did earlier in the year), that would probably change if I could sell direct legally to patients. If I was limited to supplying dispensaries, then I would visit them all and sell to the highest bidder. Speaking of which, I just read a proposed dispensary bill in the state of Indiana. Only it says nothing about how these dispensaries are to be supplied. Who sets their prices?, and should growers not be getting together to control the market?.

It costs me about 20 maybe 30 an oz in actual materials, much more in labor and particularly gasoline in the Summer.
 

Jack Harer

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If I were to ever decide and make this a business, I already settled on $300/oz b/c that's what the market dictates in this area. People around here are doubling their $$ re-selling commercial hermaphrodites without even knowing what they are. So I would feel no shame in charging top dollar for my hard work. If this were ever to become a medical state(which it almost did earlier in the year), that would probably change if I could sell direct legally to patients. If I was limited to supplying dispensaries, then I would visit them all and sell to the highest bidder. Speaking of which, I just read a proposed dispensary bill in the state of Indiana. Only it says nothing about how these dispensaries are to be supplied. Who sets their prices?, and should growers not be getting together to control the market?.

It costs me about 20 maybe 30 an oz in actual materials, much more in labor and particularly gasoline in the Summer.
All those numbers I threw out there were on the low side. If I factor in the time and gas spent just on running around collecting Rabbit Poo (4 rabbit breeders in a 100 mi radius), making bio-char, collecting eggshell and coffee grounds from 2 restaurants, out-dated (brown) produce from the grocery store, L'il Wayne wouldn't pay my price!! Thats where my LOVE and passion for this come in. I don't mind to do that, as I feel it gives me a superior product and actually makes life easier in the garden. But since I am not in a legal state, I get what I can for an O, and I get twice what you get!! It took a while to cultivate that discriminating clientèle, but it's there now. People can either pay my price...or not. I could care less. It all goes, either way, and usually by the QP!
Market price here is $300 to $400 as well for really good commercial weed, but there is NO Kind Bud readily available in any kind of quantity. So those who want the best ORGANIC (key word here), well cured weed around they pay me for it, and they love me.
 

Sunbiz1

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All those numbers I threw out there were on the low side. If I factor in the time and gas spent just on running around collecting Rabbit Poo (4 rabbit breeders in a 100 mi radius), making bio-char, collecting eggshell and coffee grounds from 2 restaurants, out-dated (brown) produce from the grocery store, L'il Wayne wouldn't pay my price!! Thats where my LOVE and passion for this come in. I don't mind to do that, as I feel it gives me a superior product and actually makes life easier in the garden. But since I am not in a legal state, I get what I can for an O, and I get twice what you get!! It took a while to cultivate that discriminating clientèle, but it's there now. People can either pay my price...or not. I could care less. It all goes, either way, and usually by the QP!
Market price here is $300 to $400 as well for really good commercial weed, but there is NO Kind Bud readily available in any kind of quantity. So those who want the best ORGANIC (key word here), well cured weed around they pay me for it, and they love me.
Kind bud, I almost never hear that term anymore. My area is flooded with commercial, some good and some crap...almost all comes directly from Mexico. The going rate for quality commercial is half the price of your market. Hydro grown kush runs around 300, so yeah I could probably go up to 350 maybe even 400. It would depend on the strain. I've had re-sellers(lol)asking me for skunk b/c there is zero sativa on the market. Those are ones that are my age, and grew up on it. I'm growing it, for me only currently though. The younger generation here thinks herijuana is laced with narcotics, based upon simply hearing the word.

Coffee grounds?...ph adjustment or gnats??
 

kindfarms420

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Wow thats a lot of light!! I will assume you feel it makes a huge increase in your yields? And thats the main reason you do?
I have one 1K and I am thinking of adding another. I grow in a spare bedroom so there is plenty of room but I dont think I get much bigger then 4x8. (12 plant limit)

Common sense says adding another 1k would increase my yield, but would it be worth it?

it will definately be worth it i feel like that the more 1000watt bulbs you have the more you produce per bulb for ex. if you flowered 12 plants under 1 light say you get 1-1.5 possibly 2 lb depending on the strain if you have 2 your looking more 3-5 lb depending on the strain.. one run i ran 6 plants under 1 bulb and i yeilded 1.5lb. the next run i ran 6 plants under 2000 watt bulbs and pulled just over 5lb.
 

boneheadbob

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Dam I better learn to grow a pound under my 1k first before I shoot for 3 -5 under 2k.
I have only been growing a year in soil
 

Jack Harer

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Kind bud, I almost never hear that term anymore. My area is flooded with commercial, some good and some crap...almost all comes directly from Mexico. The going rate for quality commercial is half the price of your market. Hydro grown kush runs around 300, so yeah I could probably go up to 350 maybe even 400. It would depend on the strain. I've had re-sellers(lol)asking me for skunk b/c there is zero sativa on the market. Those are ones that are my age, and grew up on it. I'm growing it, for me only currently though. The younger generation here thinks herijuana is laced with narcotics, based upon simply hearing the word.

Coffee grounds?...ph adjustment or gnats??
Then Sats are what you grow if there is a market for it. Obviously yuou cant sell it for what Kush goes for due to the extended flowering times. That is ONE of the reasons I have the clientele, I have Sat dom hybrids. the most part, they don't like the couch-lock indicas. So I give em what they want.
 

bob harris

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Wow thats a lot of light!! I will assume you feel it makes a huge increase in your yields? And thats the main reason you do?
I have one 1K and I am thinking of adding another. I grow in a spare bedroom so there is plenty of room but I dont think I get much bigger then 4x8. (12 plant limit)

Common sense says adding another 1k would increase my yield, but would it be worth it?
More light equals more yield is pretty much a given. Whether it would be worth it to you, depends upon your personal goals.

I've never concentrated on yields, but on the best quality I can achieve using all organic methods. That said, my yields have increased dramatically as I've added light, co2, and all the environmental controls (a/c, humidifier, dehumidifier, day night temp control). Sativas in particular will handle pretty much all the light you can afford to keep cool...and benefit from it. 75 watts per sq ft is approaching the point of diminishing returns, but that's a ton of light.
 

Jack Harer

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Wow thats a lot of light!! I will assume you feel it makes a huge increase in your yields? And thats the main reason you do?
I have one 1K and I am thinking of adding another. I grow in a spare bedroom so there is plenty of room but I dont think I get much bigger then 4x8. (12 plant limit)

Common sense says adding another 1k would increase my yield, but would it be worth it?
I'm thinking that the extra 1K light is overkill, but I have a plethora of them, and it gives me a warm fuzzy. I doubt you'd see enough extra to warrant the extra light, but 2 sure do the job!! Next round I'm probably gonna try just 2 to see.

sometimes finding the right balance is hard, we all wanna get max product for lowest cost, but Id give up quantity for quality!
If I thought for a minute quality was suffering, I'd downsize in a heartbeat. Since this is a full time gig from now on, I believe I can add another table and 2 more lights.
 
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