New And Need Help

pharlow

pharlow

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HEllo everyone this is my first grow operation i am using organic soil with no nutes so far the plants are one bubba kush 2 sour diesl started from seed paper towel germination all about 2 weeks from sprout and i think i have miracle grow for soil ????(bad?) one 150 watt hps and circulation threw the top using two fans temps stay 70 - 82 im using a 18/6 light schedule although i keep a low watt flourecent on 24 hours pleeeeaaasseee help would like to know when to start using what nutes and where i might find them


everything i say on i here is posted threw google images and strictly to look cool im not actually doing this ...... loL
 
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faralos

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in the third, there is way too much stem stretch, bury it in dirt up to the first set of leaves, keep your lights as close as possible, make sure you have a fan on them to strengthen the stems, MG is fine as long as it's NOT the 'added' ferts' stuff. as for what nutes you need, that depends on where you live. In BC you can walk into a local 'dro' store and just purchase the neat stuff. Here in the states, i use 'Schultz liquid plant food plus' at 10-15-10 for vegging, and MG plant food booster at 24-8-16 for flowering.
For you, no nutes or ferts for the first 3 weeks, then start at 1/4 strentgh for next two waterings, then increase it to 1/2 strength for next two, and so on
Water every 3-4 days, DO NOT OVERWATER, an all too common mistake
 
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kilik2007

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Wow man...you have your shit together way better than most first-time growers. +rep for that. Amazing job so far!

Advice:
1) Miracle grow soil is fine (especially if you have the 'Organic' version), but avoid it next time. If you transplant, try to use something better (Fox Farms Ocean Forest would be amazing, but there are many other cheaper soils that are great too).
2) The lighting/air circulation/temps sounds great. One important exception: Keep it all 18/6 or all 24/0, but make up your damn mind! The way you have it now (with the HPS 18/6 but the other on 24/0) will confuse your plants! I would keep them all on 18/6.
3) Once week 4 rolls around, you'll want to invest in some nutes. If you have a hydroponics store around, that's your best bet. If not, try a garden center (a dedicated nursery/garden center is better than Home Depot's garden section, etc.). You're looking for 20-10-10 NPK ratio for veg (the ratio doesn't have to be that exactly, but you want higher Nitrogen levels). And then later you'll want 10-20-10 for flowering (again- not exact ratios, but just higher Phosphorus levels). At week 4, start using the veg nute at QUARTER STRENGTH OF WHAT THEY RECOMMEND. That's VERY important. Do NOT use at full strength!

But you are doing a great job so far. Keep up the good work!
 
pharlow

pharlow

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faralos said:
in the third, there is way too much stem stretch, bury it in dirt up to the first set of leaves, keep your lights as close as possible, make sure you have a fan on them to strengthen the stems, MG is fine as long as it's NOT the 'added' ferts' stuff. as for what nutes you need, that depends on where you live. In BC you can walk into a local 'dro' store and just purchase the neat stuff. Here in the states, i use 'Schultz liquid plant food plus' at 10-15-10 for vegging, and MG plant food booster at 24-8-16 for flowering.
For you, no nutes or ferts for the first 3 weeks, then start at 1/4 strentgh for next two waterings, then increase it to 1/2 strength for next two, and so on
Water every 3-4 days, DO NOT OVERWATER, an all too common mistake
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how much water would u suggest bc i def could be over waterin i live in so call and have a dro store i will def be visiting soon i have a fan blowing air while the light is on but not directly focused on the plants it runs around the bottom im scared it could be too strong for them but i will deff bury it up as close as possible asap
 
pharlow

pharlow

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kilik2007 said:
Wow man...you have your shit together way better than most first-time growers. +rep for that. Amazing job so far!

Advice:
1) Miracle grow soil is fine (especially if you have the 'Organic' version), but avoid it next time. If you transplant, try to use something better (Fox Farms Ocean Forest would be amazing, but there are many other cheaper soils that are great too).
2) The lighting/air circulation/temps sounds great. One important exception: Keep it all 18/6 or all 24/0, but make up your damn mind! The way you have it now (with the HPS 18/6 but the other on 24/0) will confuse your plants! I would keep them all on 18/6.
3) Once week 4 rolls around, you'll want to invest in some nutes. If you have a hydroponics store around, that's your best bet. If not, try a garden center (a dedicated nursery/garden center is better than Home Depot's garden section, etc.). You're looking for 20-10-10 NPK ratio for veg (the ratio doesn't have to be that exactly, but you want higher Nitrogen levels). And then later you'll want 10-20-10 for flowering (again- not exact ratios, but just higher Phosphorus levels). At week 4, start using the veg nute at QUARTER STRENGTH OF WHAT THEY RECOMMEND. That's VERY important. Do NOT use at full strength!

But you are doing a great job so far. Keep up the good work!
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will do thanks for the nute help i will head to the shop asap to start next week and will definately just keep all lights on for 18/6
 
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kilik2007

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Umm what do you think is wrong with it...? The leaves are light green, yea, but from the picture (granted the picture is a bit fuzzy) they certainly don't look grey and it's fine overall. The leaves are a tiny bit droopy, but certainly not enough to worry. How often are you watering? I'd bet money on overwatering, mostly 'cause everybody does it. Remember: every 3-4 days, and only when the soil is dry (you want the soil to dry out in between waterings so air can reach the roots).
 
pharlow

pharlow

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start of week three what do you think that seedling i didnt think it would grow and havent relocated it yet got the nutes mixed and will intrtoduces them tomorrow 1/4 suggested of course first grow going decent i guess i just need to find a way to induce a comma to speed it up last pic is something to help pass the time
 

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Ownzord

Ownzord

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Are all the plant 3 weeks old? They look a lil small, but idk shit about indoor. Still lookn healthy. Good luck!
 
pharlow

pharlow

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Ownzord said:
Are all the plant 3 weeks old? They look a lil small, but idk shit about indoor. Still lookn healthy. Good luck!
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the smallest had root dammage the second size i believe is just the strand just added nutrients for the fist time today
 
Ownzord

Ownzord

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Im sure theyll be fine. shit I just had to transplant some lil ones because the spot I was using wasnt too safe.
 
pharlow

pharlow

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tiny amounts of yellow on some leaves but all looks good w the new nutes and ii will be postin pics shortly and new leaves are curling up a lil not bothersome yet but odd
 
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