The.ultimate.stealth.plant

300zxfairlady

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Saw this in another forums floating around, thought it would of good use to us ppl at rollitup.

This is suposedly a cross from Mark Emery called (ABC) american bastard cannabis x SUBT#1. very very stealthy plant, i think it would dramaticaly change the concept of outdoor growing. The plant is a stable mutated hybrid
 

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Dats

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Thats great. My front yard would look sweet with a bed of them planted. Imagine owning a landscaping company and planting them in all your customers yards as landscape plants. Them when you had to come back to clean up the tree leaves in the fall you could harvest and have lbs.
 

Maccabee

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More information, please. You can't just post something like that and clam up!

EDIT:

Found a couple other mentions...

Cannabis and Marijuana seeds :: HomeGrown420 - American Bastard Cannabis! cv. 'subterfuge#1'

Growing Down Under [calls it "Australian Bastard Cannabis"]

Aussie mutant update [ditto]

Apparently it needs to be hybridized with a higher potency plant as ABC is very hardy but not very stony. Hybridizing tends to lose the distinctive leaf shape and makes the plant look like pot again.

Has that problem been solved in ABCxSubt? (Subt = "subterfuge")
 

kochab

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and the creative geniuses of the world force cannibis to evolve(de-volve in this case????)

hmm would be pretty cool cept i cant tell what the hel is spossed to be bud and whats leaf by the pictures....lmao
but potent or not i know that if anyone here walked up on that mofo they wouldent be able to tell that it was weed without looking for trichromes(if that time of year)


it would be great for me to get some autoflowering strains and some of these too.
that way id have earlier smoke and some plants that no one could tell that they are plants for a mass harvest time
 

DesertSativa

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I read that and posted a thread a week ago and no one responded :( Oh well, yeah, apparently the seeds aren't available yet but the maker is supposedly working out a deal with Dr. Chronic.
 

Yahweh

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You dont see those colas?


and the creative geniuses of the world force cannibis to evolve(de-volve in this case????)

hmm would be pretty cool cept i cant tell what the hel is spossed to be bud and whats leaf by the pictures....lmao
but potent or not i know that if anyone here walked up on that mofo they wouldent be able to tell that it was weed without looking for trichromes(if that time of year)


it would be great for me to get some autoflowering strains and some of these too.
that way id have earlier smoke and some plants that no one could tell that they are plants for a mass harvest time
 

kochab

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I read that and posted a thread a week ago and no one responded :( Oh well, yeah, apparently the seeds aren't available yet but the maker is supposedly working out a deal with Dr. Chronic.
supposedly been that way for a long ass while bra. dount count on it.
and i read something about the breeder keeping addys to blackmail people or something if they cross it or some shit.
you can google abc, dizzy, and a few other things to pull uip the strains that are like it.
so far american bastard cannabis is the only one that ive heard of recently supposedly going to market soon but dizzy was supposed to too so dont hold ya breath

other than the thread were on this is the only one that ive been able to find on rollitup with anything remotely similar and that didnt get far https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/37266-australian-bastard-cannabis.html
 

Maccabee

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Aussie Bastard Cannabis Redux

Aussie Bastard Cannabis Redux - FC Forums
This thread reprints the above article, but also has pics from a guy growing "Ducksfoot" that has different-looking foliage.

Hawaiian Webbed indica is also mentioned.

Big_Bhuddha@FreeCannabis forums said:
I can pass on a bit more info on ABC/Dizzy now, there is a guy called Mongyman who I've had a few chats with online and he claims, (and he has pics to back it up and sounds very genuine) that ABC and Dizzy both descend from what he calsl Mongy, which is a mutation found in their yard by an old couple 30 years ago and has been preserved by mongyman ever since, over the years he gave out thousands of seeds and that is the source of all the mutant strains. He explained how ABC was simply Mongy seeds given to Mark Emery by someone who got them from mongyman. Fet refuses to enter into any discussion with mongyman and ignores any questions adout whether Dizzy is related to mongy.

A couple of months ago, a grower on another forum found a mutat that looks exactly like Mongy/ABC/Dizzy in a pack of seeds (can't remember the strain) he grw out, he kept the plant and is working on crossing it in hopes of breeding and selectign for the mutation. Others over the years have claimed to have seen similar mutants in otherwise normal strains, they are very, very rare though it would seem, but with them cropping up all over the place in single numbers and in different strains, I tend to think the mutation is caused by chemicals or some other factor, could just be a random mutation, whatever it is, it isn't unique to Australia and isn't a landrace aussie strain like Fet has calimed about Dizzy. Why haven't we seen anything of Dizzy apart from a few pics? Why hasn't Fet raked in the money by selling them?

The Ducksfoot are stil lflowering, going over 20 weeks, probably take 22 or 23, I pollinated one with C99 pollen, one with Blueberry pollen and the third one I'm going to leave to reodelize and self pollinate as Ducksfoot (at least the ones I have) will produce bananas and self-pollinate producing feminised beans if allowed to live a few weeks after ripeness.

I've bee trying to track down some Hawaiian webbed indica to cross to the Duck but it's hard to find to say the least, I did manage to get hold of some Molokai Frost x Strawberry Web (pheno of HWI) beans so maybe I'll see some webbed ones among those, apparently the trait is recessive and will only appear in the F2 gen, not the F1, so I guess I'll have to make F2s and look for webbed ones.
Dizzy's thread at HG420:
Cannabis and Marijuana seeds :: HomeGrown420 - Spice Brothers Seeds - Dizzy
 

kochab

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kochab

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So to sum up everything we know, we know nothing. Damn I want some of these seeds.
yep thats about it really. lmao they look like they would be great for us all, we all want seeds, theyre arent any on the market as of right now, thread done right?
 
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