Farfenugen
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I am my own god. There, that's all I have to say
Christianity just a cock-n-bull story
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eye exaggerate
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...religions talk about people who embodied energies. Every person has their own amount, or type of, energy. The question religion poses is "how are you going to use that energy?" It's a valid one, as far as I can tell. How we use it dictates the state of our world. The people we've read about have emptied the egoic self and filled up on truth.
ex:
In Buddhism, a bodhisattva (Sanskrit: बोधिसत्त्व bodhisattva; Pali: बोधिसत्त bodhisatta) is either an enlightened (bodhi) existence (sattva) or an enlightenment-being or, given the variant Sanskrit spelling satva rather than sattva, "heroic-minded one (satva) for enlightenment (bodhi)." The Pali term has sometimes been translated as "wisdom-being,"[SUP][1][/SUP] although in modern publications, and especially in tantric works, this is more commonly reserved for the term jñānasattva ("awareness-being"; Tib. ཡེ་ཤེས་སེམས་དཔའ་་, Wyl. ye shes sems dpa). Traditionally, a bodhisattva is anyone who, motivated by great compassion, has generated bodhicitta, which is a spontaneous wish to attain Buddhahood for the benefit of all sentient beings.[SUP][2]
...the quote above also describes a shaman, one who is "between heaven and earth - a mediator".[/SUP]
Sunbiz1
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What if you are wrong?. Besides, there isn't supposed to be any evidence...the entire religion(and I use that term very loosely)is based upon faith. And if that's the case, then it's a relationship as opposed to a religion.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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what is this energy , you talk of ? how do you measure it , or how do you even know it exists ? how do i know the 'amount' of energy i have ? if you know that everyone has different amounts of this 'energy , then it must be measurable , so how are you measuring this ?
...religions talk about people who embodied energies. Every person has their own amount, or type of, energy. The question religion poses is "how are you going to use that energy?" It's a valid one, as far as I can tell. How we use it dictates the state of our world. The people we've read about have emptied the egoic self and filled up on truth.
ex:
In Buddhism, a bodhisattva (Sanskrit: बोधिसत्त्व bodhisattva; Pali: बोधिसत्त bodhisatta) is either an enlightened (bodhi) existence (sattva) or an enlightenment-being or, given the variant Sanskrit spelling satva rather than sattva, "heroic-minded one (satva) for enlightenment (bodhi)." The Pali term has sometimes been translated as "wisdom-being,"[SUP][1][/SUP] although in modern publications, and especially in tantric works, this is more commonly reserved for the term jñānasattva ("awareness-being"; Tib. ཡེ་ཤེས་སེམས་དཔའ་་, Wyl. ye shes sems dpa’. Traditionally, a bodhisattva is anyone who, motivated by great compassion, has generated bodhicitta, which is a spontaneous wish to attain Buddhahood for the benefit of all sentient beings.[SUP][2]
...the quote above also describes a shaman, one who is "between heaven and earth - a mediator".[/SUP]
eye exaggerate
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...we can tell who has a lot of energy and who hasn't. I'm sure you've seen people before who had a hard time keeping still. Mostly, that energy is creative energy, which is sexual energy. Portrayed as a negative you could say it is anxiety, even neurosis. How is it measured? The person who experiences it is the measure. You decide what has more of this 'spirit' by the choices you make. It's not like you can say that you're happily attracted to bad times. Isn't everyone searching for 'The Good'? "The Good" is not quantifiable even by those who have it in a material way.what is this energy , you talk of ? how do you measure it , or how do you even know it exists ? how do i know the 'amount' of energy i have ? if you know that everyone has different amounts of this 'energy , then it must be measurable , so how are you measuring this ?
So there, describe the wind for me in a tangible sense
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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i could make up my own invisible force wich we all hold and say the exact same thing as you have just wrote about it....we can tell who has a lot of energy and who hasn't. I'm sure you've seen people before who had a hard time keeping still. Mostly, that energy is creative energy, which is sexual energy. Portrayed as a negative you could say it is anxiety, even neurosis. How is it measured? The person who experiences it is the measure. You decide what has more of this 'spirit' by the choices you make. It's not like you can say that you're happily attracted to bad times. Isn't everyone searching for 'The Good'? "The Good" is not quantifiable even by those who have it in a material way.
So there, describe the wind for me in a tangible sense
eye exaggerate
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ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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lol..................................
jumpin' buffalo
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Wrong about there not being any known evidence to support Christianity's most grandiose claims? I'm afraid that's fact.
There's nothing wrong with faith as long as it's not used as a means to lash out at others - you know, like the Christians are always doing.
jumpin' buffalo
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There's nothing wrong with that as long as you don't imply that people who don't believe that are screwed up.
Pissinyourtropicana
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I would rather live my life as if there is a god and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.
mindphuk
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Terrible argument. You have just restated Pascal's Wager, not an argument for the existence of god, an argument for BELIEF in the existence of a specific deity. One that would have to reward mere belief, even belief for dishonest reasons such as wagering on his existence.
Here's more
[video=youtube;DBW2BvX4xkA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBW2BvX4xkA[/video]
[video=youtube;v9WRG4e6m2s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9WRG4e6m2s[/video]
calicatt79
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believe what your eyes can see!
Ringsixty
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Look all religions are Cock and Bull...simple as that!
I believe in just being a good person is enough... If there is a Heaven or Hell. I will find out @ the end of my life. I do not deny there could be a all powerful. But, if it is full of love and understanding etc. Then when we meet.. He . She or It will understand.
"Free Will"
I believe in just being a good person is enough... If there is a Heaven or Hell. I will find out @ the end of my life. I do not deny there could be a all powerful. But, if it is full of love and understanding etc. Then when we meet.. He . She or It will understand.
"Free Will"
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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you silly boy .
Zaehet Strife
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christianity is definitely a fail.
Dank Hands
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This is the mentality shared by many. The fear of an eternity in a firey hell allow the chruches to have shitloads of money and power. My hat has always gone off to the geniuses who invented the idea of heaven and hell.
eye exaggerate
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...I wonder who here can paint a great picture of 'forces'. It's easy to say that either one thing or the other exists or not. Since it's been done a bazillion times, let's get to something different and start creating mental images of what 'unseen' forces are.
Don't paint the outcomes, which is what we do with our intellects. Instead, give great descriptions of the motivators.
Love, hate, vanity, pride, etc. "What is envy?", can you show me what envy itself looks like? Not the outcome of envy, but envy itself - do so without using a person as an example. It's not easy.
Don't paint the outcomes, which is what we do with our intellects. Instead, give great descriptions of the motivators.
Love, hate, vanity, pride, etc. "What is envy?", can you show me what envy itself looks like? Not the outcome of envy, but envy itself - do so without using a person as an example. It's not easy.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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envy is an emotion not a force .
forces can be measured and tested , like a magnetic force , gravity , etc .
what you have done is made up your own force that dosent really exist then come out with , only you yourself can measure how much of this force you have , then you have called it a creative energy , and a sexualy energy, dosent make much sense to me .
jumpin' buffalo
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That would make me ignorant if there was evidence for what you believe. But that's what the problem is. There is no evidence to support Christianity's most grandiose claims.