The 12-12 From Seed Thread

mantiszn said:
I don't understand how people say that 12-12 doesn't work for certain strains... Many people only veg for 2-3 weeks on all sorts of strains and don't have problems.. With 12-12 you basically veg'ing for 2-3 weeks any way until the plant is mature enough to flower..

I guess it could be an regional origin thing.. Maybe if the source of the strain is originally closer to the equator the better it will do 12-12 ...
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i dont think there really is a bad strain....some better than others maybe.........bad phenos yes............
 
cester said:
what is a pheanotype?
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Ok, a phenotype is talking about genetics. Just like humans you can have kids from the same parents but they will all come out a little different. Thats like phenotypes. You will have the same strain, but that same strain will produce different variations, some more desirable then others. Thats what breeders do. Breed a lot of a specific plants (plans meaning a mother and father plant) then they take the best phenotypes they find from the batch of new plants made from the mom being pollinated from the father.

A good example is say a couple has 2 kids. One kid is a major league baseball player and the other is a couch potatoe. If your creating good genetics your going to want to pick the best one. Same with breeding plants. You want the major league baseball player of your phenotypes.

Does that make sense to you? Hopefully I explained it in a way you could understand.

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del66666 said:
i dont think there really is a bad strain....some better than others maybe.........bad phenos yes............
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I'm now inclined to agree w/you. I have 2 plants half the size of their sisters' obviously grown under identical circumstances. Those 2 are getting pulled from 12 for more veg time, I should not have started with the weakest looking seeds for these type of grows. Thankfully I have plenty of cloning material from the stronger ladies.

cheers!
 
del66666 said:
waiting for my hot milk and biscuit............got my blanket over my legs....nurse be here in a moment........lovely nursing home this.
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LMao
can you please send me an application for your nursing home. i have been looking into long term care myself.and your facility sounds like they prescribe the type of medication i need. time for you ballon mr. delski. lol

nice bombs delboy, looks like she is loving the foliar spray. Her leaves radiate a rich deep green color with a sweet shinynesss...she looks like a rocketship ready for blast off. nice work mate
 
supersillybilly said:
18 months in prison.lol Space is from World of Seeds. Cross of AK47 and Black Donima I think. Im too para to be sitting about the unit, never mind smoking a doobie. Ill get some close ups tonight for you. I put them through hell and back Amber. One is prone to going on 4 day benders, although I have enlisted the help of a family member for when Im otherwise tied up. lol Ive been upping the feed to rediculious levels and their loving it. I reckon 2 weeks and most of them can come down, while some may be another 2 weeks. Wait till u see Las's SLH in there. No more floor
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whats prison like over there? is that where you got the name super silly billy? lol
your smoke space sounds like some potent chit. I have heard nothin but good things about how killer aK47 is. won tons of awards this past year. that sucks big time that you cant spend any chill time with your girls. really feel bad for you mate. to much oppression going on in the world over a fuckin plant. so ridiculous so very very ridiculous.
yeah im totally lookin forward to seeing the las lemon arrive mun. and the close ups too . hope your doing well.
 
Has anybody grown dinafem white widow, dinafem cheese, or barneys farm 8ball kush 12/12 from seed? If so can I get some details please? :weed:
 
Hi. congs for your grows. I have a question: Is it able control the plants height (sog, lst, etc) with this light schedule and the way the plan grows?
 
froghunter said:
Hi. congs for your grows. I have a question: Is it able control the plants height (sog, lst, etc) with this light schedule and the way the plan grows?
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thats a tricky question . all i can tells you from my experience is that the pot size really made a difference but the strain type also plays a big part. I grew an exodus cheese backcross in a one gallon smartpot that only got to be about 16 inches tall. I also have a pineapple chunk in a one gallon smart pot that is at least 36 inches tall. same enviorment the entire grow, same nutes, same lights.. so that tells me its strain based. If you have a dominant sativa i would recommed a small pot to control its height. sativas tend to grow really tall, indicas shorter and stockier. at least thats what has happened for me. good luck and welcome to riu. Nice first post mr.froggy. ribbit
 
Sup 12/12'ers....

Purple Le' Pew 12/12 from seed...

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Skunkijuana 12/12 from clone...

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Peace and Have a Great Weekend!!!

BKB
 
Dr.Amber Trichome said:
thats a tricky question . all i can tells you from my experience is that the pot size really made a difference but the strain type also plays a big part. I grew an exodus cheese backcross in a one gallon smartpot that only got to be about 16 inches tall. I also have a pineapple chunk in a one gallon smart pot that is at least 36 inches tall. same enviorment the entire grow, same nutes, same lights.. so that tells me its strain based. If you have a dominant sativa i would recommed a small pot to control its height. sativas tend to grow really tall, indicas shorter and stockier. at least thats what has happened for me. good luck and welcome to riu. Nice first post mr.froggy. ribbit
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Cheers doc :P Actually i was wondering about sog . Cuz most plants i saw grow one main cola and it's kinda hard to manage it. :)
 
Hey everyone taught I might post some pics as I have a quick question to ask. I have 6 sharksbreath from DNA which will be 3 weeks old tomorrow I have them under a 400w hps all the way through and feeding them currently bio Grow and bio heaven 1ml of each per 100ml of 6.2ph water...3 of them I had to remove there first set of true leaves 3 days ago as they turned yellow (not the cotyledons but the leaves that appear after)..Now I have 2 of the plants that are a light green/yellow in colour and are far smaller than the rest(as you can see below) is it just pheno's acting up or is it something else(or am I just freaking out for no reason)..Cheers for the help in advance, if it wasn't for this thread I would not being growing 12/12 from seed some excellent info on here...Oh and finally before I go when will I use bloom nutes I'm pressuming its when the flowers first appear but will I hold off for a week or so when this happens befoe introducing the bloom nutes..
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IrishFarmeR said:
Hey everyone taught I might post some pics as I have a quick question to ask. I have 6 sharksbreath from DNA which will be 3 weeks old tomorrow I have them under a 400w hps all the way through and feeding them currently bio Grow and bio heaven 1ml of each per 100ml of 6.2ph water...3 of them I had to remove there first set of true leaves 3 days ago as they turned yellow (not the cotyledons but the leaves that appear after)..Now I have 2 of the plants that are a light green/yellow in colour and are far smaller than the rest(as you can see below) is it just pheno's acting up or is it something else(or am I just freaking out for no reason)..Cheers for the help in advance, if it wasn't for this thread I would not being growing 12/12 from seed some excellent info on here...Oh and finally before I go when will I use bloom nutes I'm pressuming its when the flowers first appear but will I hold off for a week or so when this happens befoe introducing the bloom nutes..
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Yellowing of leaves and stunted growth usually indicate N deficiency.
 
IrishFarmeR said:
Hey everyone taught I might post some pics as I have a quick question to ask. I have 6 sharksbreath from DNA which will be 3 weeks old tomorrow I have them under a 400w hps all the way through and feeding them currently bio Grow and bio heaven 1ml of each per 100ml of 6.2ph water...3 of them I had to remove there first set of true leaves 3 days ago as they turned yellow (not the cotyledons but the leaves that appear after)..Now I have 2 of the plants that are a light green/yellow in colour and are far smaller than the rest(as you can see below) is it just pheno's acting up or is it something else(or am I just freaking out for no reason)..Cheers for the help in advance, if it wasn't for this thread I would not being growing 12/12 from seed some excellent info on here...Oh and finally before I go when will I use bloom nutes I'm pressuming its when the flowers first appear but will I hold off for a week or so when this happens befoe introducing the bloom nutes..
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hello mate, im going with pheno.........ive had some that yellowed, dwarfed.......a few have just bit the dust no matter what i did.....id say hold your bloom til you get a week or so into flowering...i think with bio you combine bloom and veg nutes when plants are in flower
 
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