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4tatude

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bad on the environment because its harvested faster than its replenished, for growing im in new territory here lol. i know my hanging pots outside have lots of peat in their mix
 

4tatude

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the price of eggs in comparison to the wear and tear on a hens ass lol i think they are cheap considering :)
 

a mongo frog

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the price of eggs in comparison to the wear and tear on a hens ass lol i think they are cheap considering :)
ok, well u can get 48 eggs for like 6 or 7 bucks. u can pick up a hen all day long for 5 bucks.
now what u have to figure out is how much does that hen work for.
if it was me id take it up the ass for lets say 50 bucks an hour. a hen should be able to work for half that.
so if my math is correct, 26xA(48/7){756.275=263. the hen makes out like a champ. there is no comparison. the wear and tear is well worth the money.
 

kamie

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so i finally ph the water to 5.7-5.9 i only got ph down from GH and wasn't really able to mess around with it to get it to 5.8. i checked my ppm and its about 900 using tap water.
 

4tatude

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kamie thats acceptable, i let my ph in hydro swing from 5.6 to 6. the 900ppm should be good reg tap is 2-3ooppm alone. check your taps ppm all by itself so you will know. asap get you some down, its priceless when needed :)
 

kamie

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kamie thats acceptable, i let my ph in hydro swing from 5.6 to 6. the 900ppm should be good reg tap is 2-3ooppm alone. check your taps ppm all by itself so you will know. asap get you some down, its priceless when needed :)
my tap water is at 200 ppm. does that mean i should add more nutes to bring up the ppm? i clone with root riots or rapid rooters. would 5.8 ph be acceptable?
 

4tatude

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kamie i personally dont check ph during cloning, the ph affects uptake of nutes. when cloning your looking at creating roots and ph in my oppinion is a non issue. others might dsagree but thats the way i do it. hope that helps...
i never check ph in my aero cloner,ph ontrollsnute uptake ability, im not worried about the leafs im looking to pop some roots. if the plant can take up nutes it has no reason to produce roots. thats my oppinion and has worked well for me.
 

Dezracer

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I don't ph my water for the cloner either. I use rapid rooters but this time I ended up with some sort of rapid rooter knock off product by mistake. They seem to work fine but it took longer to get roots when I just did some clones for Jigfresh. They aren't nearly as moist in the package as the RR plugs either so I'll be more careful in the future and make sure I am getting what I want.
 

4tatude

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I don't ph my water for the cloner either. I use rapid rooters but this time I ended up with some sort of rapid rooter knock off product by mistake. They seem to work fine but it took longer to get roots when I just did some clones for Jigfresh. They aren't nearly as moist in the package as the RR plugs either so I'll be more careful in the future and make sure I am getting what I want.
dez ive nev er tried but once to root in rapid rooters and it was a desaster. they didnt root and got mold n shitgoing on so threw them all away. havent tried since. aero for me...
 

4tatude

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just finished feeding, today is the 1/2 way mark. im well satisfied of their progress to date. the colas are filling in very nice and starting to put on weight. other than the touch of pm in the beginning they have been trouble free. i have noticed that they use up leaves faster in soil than in hydro, whats up with that? seems there are a lot of leaves that exaust themselves.
next feed i need to pull them all out and give the buds a good tie up for support, they are getting heavy enough that they are leaning on each other. maby that will be done tomorrow.
 

kamie

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I don't ph my water for the cloner either. I use rapid rooters but this time I ended up with some sort of rapid rooter knock off product by mistake. They seem to work fine but it took longer to get roots when I just did some clones for Jigfresh. They aren't nearly as moist in the package as the RR plugs either so I'll be more careful in the future and make sure I am getting what I want.
i use root riot the bag that comes with clonex. its exactly like rapid rooters except the hole to place the clones in is smaller. i didnt like how the rapid rooters were too big and i had to just shove the clones into it.
 

Dezracer

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I have had a few bubble cloners and put together one aero cloner before and for some reason always went back to the tray, dome and heat mat. I really like the bubble cloners but always had a hard time keeping the water temps down. I don't remember what the deal was with the aero one though so couldn't say why I'm not using one right now.
 

4tatude

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dez my aero funs 1min on and 5 off. the pump never gets the temps up and i have near 100% sucess. the only cut that stumped me was the kriptonite. i just couldnt get that one to root. not a big loss as it turned out to be crap anyway. ive got a tiny bubbler but i really prefer the aero. fill it up with water place the cuts come back in couple weeks n they all have roots lol
 

Shwagbag

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dez my aero funs 1min on and 5 off. the pump never gets the temps up and i have near 100% sucess. the only cut that stumped me was the kriptonite. i just couldnt get that one to root. not a big loss as it turned out to be crap anyway. ive got a tiny bubbler but i really prefer the aero. fill it up with water place the cuts come back in couple weeks n they all have roots lol
What timer do you use? I'm thinking about breaking the aero cloner back out, I'm fairly certain that was my issue is high res temps from the pump. Those recycling timers are not cheap!
 

4tatude

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What timer do you use? I'm thinking about breaking the aero cloner back out, I'm fairly certain that was my issue is high res temps from the pump. Those recycling timers are not cheap!
shwagbag ive got a couple i use the drt-one i think it is and the sentinal i use has a recirculating feature. im using the sentinal feature right now. it requires an electronic type as the others will only turn down to 15min as the lowest setting and i personally think thats too mich time on and between cycles tho ive not tried that. all i know is the way ive got it set up works, and i get almost 100% like i said. with the exception of the kriptonite ive not had a failure to root anything and i dont fret at all over it. like i said two weeks and they all have roots with no intervention. i just stickthem in and peek under the hood after about 10 days or so to see who is rooting faster, but by the 14 to 16 day strain depending they arte all showing roots and with minimum attention.
 

Shwagbag

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I think you're right 15 is too much down time. 1 on 4 off seems to be the magic number. I read a lot of threads and that seemed to always do the trick! Thank you 4tatude!
 
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