LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

hyroot said:
thats more or less sounds more like its not being fed what its used to or ph. or maybe thats just the way that strain is. post a pic, ive never had a problem moving them from hps to t5. actually they seem to be more happy when I do that.
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That's so cool that you say this because I just moved a plant from HPS to T5 and the plant really responded nicely. I am about to flip to 12/12 under the T5. Here is the bulb combo I'm using for flower now, 4 Flora Sun, 2 Fiji Purple, 2 Red Sun. So far so good. Can't wait to get some tasty smoke. It will be interesting to see if there is a taste difference between the HPS and T5 over here.
 
This t5 shit is contagious. I am saving up to get another fixture. Any one try this bulb yet ,The AquaticLife 45.75 inch, 60/620nm Purple 54 Watt T5 HO Fluorescent?? Or this one,,The Roseate lamp is 650nm and is ideal for freshwater planted tanks. Best used in combination with 6000K lamps.
Both have the 600 range nm. No graph. There is also the Sylvania red, but it is expensive. 54 Watt T High Output (Ho) Fluorescent Bulb, Red Emission - FPO/Red/Ho. So many bulbs so little money.
 
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She looks healthy and happy. Older leaves have some deficiency, but all newer leaves are perfect. When I got her she had just been watered- soaked more like it. It was 8 days before I watered as the soil meter reading remained very wet


Feeding her DM Gold + DM Potash+ @ ~ 750ppm

EDIT: I have no idea what type or wattage of bulb she was under, but when I got her she stunk up the room. That stopped after 4-5 days. Looking for ideas why.

 
falcon223 said:
This t5 shit is contagious. I am saving up to get another fixture. Any one try this bulb yet ,The AquaticLife 45.75 inch, 60/620nm Purple 54 Watt T5 HO Fluorescent?? Or this one,,The Roseate lamp is 650nm and is ideal for freshwater planted tanks. Best used in combination with 6000K lamps.
Both have the 600 range nm. No graph. There is also the Sylvania red, but it is expensive. 54 Watt T High Output (Ho) Fluorescent Bulb, Red Emission - FPO/Red/Ho. So many bulbs so little money.
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I was just askin about the roseate, seen it anywhere cheaper than dr'sfoster&smith?
I'm just lookin for 2footers but I'll report back on the effectiveness. Again im currently runnin 6500K/Coralwave/6500K/CW (2x) was thinking of switching out a bulb for the roseate but I have 2 single fixtures lying around might just throw the ROS where the second 6500K goes and add the single fixture on the end so its 6500K/CW/ROS/CW/6500K (2x)

Id love to keep it pure t5 but im SCROGing so I'll probably through some CFLs under the canopy....although my neighbor had some BRIGHT ASS christmas lights this year, gave me a crazy idea for under canopy lighting.......
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2-3" max during flower boys. They won't burn I promise! I only raise them higher during veg when I want a stretch.

Sidenote about pics: Tiny buds can look big if it's just a pic of the bud. Everyone should try and place something like a Coke can or lighter next to buds to show SCALE.
 
can i add one blue super antic light to supplement my cfls i only have 2700ks in there now would it help to mix the spectrum up here's some pics
i want to add it to the wall vertically would this do anything or just waste time
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stealth grow 11 said:
can i add one blue super antic light to supplement my cfls i only have 2700ks in there now would it help to mix the spectrum up here's some pics
i want to add it to the wall vertically would this do anything or just waste time
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Your CFL's already have almost the same range of blue, but their red peaks at about 610nm, you'd be alot better to try to find a red heavy tri-band bulb, like a colormax, florasun, or aquaflora. Your cfl's have a good dose of blue within them and naturally have a decent spectrum, blue/gree/red, but the reds are a little low for good PAR response (sure it will work but you want whats best right)

Any bulb you can find with a red peak over 620nm would be a good addition.

btw those look like 6500k's, not 2700k?
 
Undercover Cop said:
Your CFL's already have almost the same range of blue, but their red peaks at about 610nm, you'd be alot better to try to find a red heavy tri-band bulb, like a colormax, florasun, or aquaflora. Your cfl's have a good dose of blue within them and naturally have a decent spectrum, blue/gree/red, but the reds are a little low for good PAR response (sure it will work but you want whats best right)

Any bulb you can find with a red peak over 620nm would be a good addition.

btw those look like 6500k's, not 2700k?
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it said on the box they where 2700k. which is for flowering right
i also have a aqua-glo and a power-glo a bunch of stuff from fish keeping i just want as much good light in there as possible
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stealth grow 11 said:
it said on the box they where 2700k. which is for flowering right
i also have a aqua-glo and a power-glo a bunch of stuff from fish keeping i just want as much good light in there as possible
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ok they just looked like 6500k's in the pic. If you're still in veg I would use a blend of both 6500's and 2700's. of the two SPD's the top looks better, too much green/too little red on the bottom one. my 2c
 
I think I will give these bulbs a try.
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The AquaticLife 45.75 inch, Roseate 54 Watt T5 HO Fluorescent Lamps are 45.75 inches from end of pin to end of pin (for 48 inch fixtures/retrofits).

The Roseate lamp is 650nm and is ideal for freshwater planted tanks. Best used in combination with 6000K lamps
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The AquaticLife 45.75 inch, 60/620nm Purple 54 Watt T5 HO Fluorescent Lamps are 45.75 inches from end of pin to end of pin (for 48 inch fixtures/retrofits).

The 60/620nm Purple bulb spectrum is ideal for acroporas, anemones, clams, hard corals, leathers, mushrooms, polyps, soft corals and xenias.

My 3 red suns have all crashed now.
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falcon223 said:
My 3 red suns have all crashed now.
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damn you too huh? I have 4 more on the way from HelioLights (cheaper shipping than AS anyway) Lets hope its just AS's batch that are going bad. How old were yours and where did ya get em?

For flowering sidelighting Ill then have 2 red suns in each 4 bulb panel, with a coral wave and bloom3k until I can get some UltraGrowths or AquaFlora's/Colormax or similar.
 
What fixtures are you guys running? I have 3 that are 7 weeks old and 3 that are 5 and all looked good this morning.....Bad Boy and a Hydro Farm fixture, both 8-bulbs
 
I have all cheap Radiion fixtures, and had one go out in an 8 bulb and one in a 4 bulb... separate fixtures. And they're the ONLY bulbs Ive had go out.

The theory is that its the glue on the end caps, which would explain why the ones that work, work well...and the ones that dont, dont.
 
just harvested the rest of my first plant. Before last night I already had 30 grams dried/curing that i took off to try over the past 2 1/2 weeks. So I just trimmed up the last of the 1 plant i did under 432 watts and got another 490g of trimmed/manicured tight buds and very little stem left, plus another 26g of sugar trim and airy buds i didn't care to jar with the rest. So if i get 25% of that, thats another 126ish so I think i might have got a total just short of 6oz dried off one plant and one t5 for my first attempt at this. I am more than pleased with the outcome no matter what the final yield, but there are finally some yield numbers for the people in question. I have some killing fields, mad shack, mad kush, and ko kush from sannie seedlings all going right now.
 
Undercover Cop said:
I have all cheap Radiion fixtures, and had one go out in an 8 bulb and one in a 4 bulb... separate fixtures. And they're the ONLY bulbs Ive had go out.

The theory is that its the glue on the end caps, which would explain why the ones that work, work well...and the ones that dont, dont.
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Also, if you twist them out when hot, the seal can break, as it apparently did on one of mine
 
PetFlora said:
Hyroot or anyone else who has HPS experience vs T5s: I think I mentioned that I am babysitting a female that was ~ 21 days into bloom when I took her in. At that time she smelled amazing. The smell has been gone now for awhile. I have no idea what bulb type or intensity (600-1000...) but am beginning to suspect my 432 w T5 setup is missing something, or do I just more T5 watts?
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Some people say that plants won't smell if they aren't under stress. Maybe the smell is still being produced but just not being released? That could be a good thing. Maybe you aren't "losing" as much smell. I'm not saying that's what's going on, just throwing that theory out there.
 
@falcon223, sorry about your luck. I seriously doubt i'll get the 5 3/4 like i calculated last night, but I had just spent about the better part of almost 4 hours trimming and hanging and all that stuff. I had been up for 20 hours, had 8 hours of graduate school before that, and needless to say my mind was spent at the point of my last post. All I did was take my total wet trimmed bud weight and took 25% of that. I already have an oz give or take an 1/8 that was dried/ being cured now. So that's already a fact, another fact is that I easily pulled of 4-6 times what i already had dried/cured. I know this by how long it took to trim, size of the buds compared to the few branches i had already taken off. You don't have to believe me. I have a hard time believing it myself, but it seems reasonable. Even if i got half of what i came up with last night, that's still going to be 4+oz off one plant, which someone was wondering a few pages back. Which I have no doubt in my mind I will eclipse. Like I said i already have 1oz dried, and curing and there is way more than 3 times that amount cut and trimmed last night compared to what I had to trim to get 1oz. It's one of those moments when you don't want to get yourself too excited, but you have a good feeling that it's going to be a lot more than the 2-3 that you were expecting.
Either way I'm very happy with the final product.
 
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