Vertical Flooded Tube v 3.0

[snowgrow19]

Sorry its been forever since I updated. I got real pissed with my harvest, didn't turn out near where I thought, but I believe it was mainly because I had so many strains. Some of them (purple kush, g13 haze, and blue dream) performed very well, while the others sucked. Got about 2.25 lbs dry weight. Lame. However, mine current grow which I will post in a week or so is almost all purple kush and a few golden goats, both of which I know do very well and they are both great to smoke. Based upon veg time of last grow vs this grow, I pulled over 1.75 oz on several purple kush so now I know that if I veg for 3 weeks I can get about that per plant. My veg time this round was about 2.5 weeks so I'm hoping for close to 1.3-1.5 oz per plant this run at 46 plants

Really neat setup, whats the total amount spent?

If I were to rebuild it knowing what I know now (without the screw ups and such) I could build this system with all equipment for probably 1500-2000.

I love your veg area! Mine is closer to Heaths veg setup, but I think I lose a few days when they are adjusting to the flooded tubes. I very may well build something like yours (thanks for sharing). I have hit 2.5 gpw with 600's so far, rest assured you will get there.

I would love to hit 2.5... one day.

Dont come to cali for bear. save up some cash and hit mammoth and june. you just have to give up your first born for a ticket to mammoth. the road to bear is enough to ruin your trip. a whole bunch of socal flatlanders(the worst kind) and a road with bends and turns is a bad equation, throw ice/snow into the mix and your safer smoking crack. IMO.

lookin' good.....real good.

Yeah, I was in mammoth with my girlfriend last year for the Roxy chicken jam in march and that week, the week they broke the season snowfall record, there was 15 feet. Fucking epic. And yeah, I-70 from denver up to summit county is pretty bad, too. Fucking gapers man.

And thanks, I've been putting the effort in so soon I expect to see some results.

Do you run your clone area as a flooded tube, ebb and flow or some other variation? Also, do you lose or shock your clones when you transplant right in to the vert? TY

Yeah, flooded tube. Same as the vert setup just not vert. Although, I have thought about vegging vert, except the moms. I need them to branch up normally for a good clone selection. My tubes in the veg come apart real easily so I was thinking about figuring a way to convert it based upon the stage of growth, from horizontal to vert and back. I would veg the plants that are flowering vertically if I could.

So here's my take on GPW. If you are growing a heavy yielding strain, then it sounds good. If you are growing a low yielding strain then it never sounds as good as the other guy. I have grown mostly OG strains in my setups, and never got above .5 grams per watt. But the quality of the buds is top top top shelf, and I've never had anything but great comments from true conisuers(sp?). I've seen guys pulling 1+ gpw, and smoked their stuff...hasn't been anything to write home about. Its not to say that all good yielding strains are lesser quality, but I have yet to see one that I would grow. DOG might be that winner but I'm still in flower with that strain. Then you have to take into consideration the water in the cured buds. I dry my buds OUT, some people like their stuff a little moist. That makes a big difference in the end weight. So take your gpw and improve on it, but don't look at other guys gpw values, cuz there are way too many things that affect it to say "I'm not happy until I hit X gpw"

With a vertical set up it is not about having a heavy yielding strain vs. connoisseur strain. It is more about the structure of the plant. Any plant that produces heavy colas with smaller fan leaves and minimal side branching is going to do well in a vertical set up and capable of hitting 2gpw in my opinion. It's all about getting 80+ plants close to a 600 watt light.

Spot on, both of you. The strain is so important in this system. Like I said, the reason I believe my harvest was less than stellar was because of the variety. Going by the numbers, I could easily hit 1.5gpw growing the purple kush alone. Also the golden goat, which I grew 3 grows ago, does very well in this system.

Ive been around the vertical block a few times, and I disagree with the 2 GPW, and agree with the structure.

I will see if I can prove you wrong in the near future. If heath robinsons grow was fully dried out then he would have hit 2.18 (46 oz @ 28.5g under a 600w). I believe it can be done, but it ain't gonna be easy.

Stay tuned everyone, I will have my next journal up soon, I just decided I want to let it go into flower a few weeks so I can have a more complete update to start. Here is that last update from this past grow, day before harvest.
[video=youtube;2emHGg9zl6g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2emHGg9zl6g&feature=g-all-u&context=G260a5f6FAAAAAAAAAAA[/video]

 

[snowgrow19]

Snow have another question for you. I have the flooded tube all done. I put some clones in it last night but was finding it hard to get the roots threw the net pot to hang low enough to get the water flowing over them. Anyways what is the trick here my ladies are not looking happy needless to say this morning. Hope you can give me some quick advice

Hey sorry I didnt answer earlier, I have an especially awesome tip for you. Cut an 'x' all the way across the bottom of the net cup, but don't remove any of the plastic. You just want the slits so you can pull it open, hang the roots through the hole and then close the slits back to normal. They will hold the hydroton, don't worry about it falling through. Then what I do is dunk the plant to the top of the net cup in my nutrient reservoir and slowly add hydroton so it floats into place. This prevents the roots from getting all banged up if you just pour in the hydroton. Low stress transplanting,

 

[snowgrow19]

Room looks good. Pure power plants a great strain, I used to have a indica dom phenotype that was super frosty and a good yielder. Did you get seeds from nirvana?
As for the lights, 600's are great, but I def wouldnt keep my tubes 3' from the light. 2 would be a lot better.

Great room, keep it up.

Mine sucked, but I got it as a clone from a friend. Very crystally and wonderful to smoke, but also extremely leafy. Don't know what happened or why it did so poorly, but won't grow it again unless I had gotten it from seed and could pick the right phenotype.

And I agree, I think 2-2.5 is optimal depending on your strain, I shouldn't have said 2-3. Remember indicas can thrive in less intense light while sativas will only produce well under more intense light so the optimal distance can vary between strains.

 

[username474]

Thanks for the update and reply. The plant in your video at the 2:00 min. mark is off the charts.

 

[strictly seedleSs]

looking good snowgrow. I dont disagree about being able to pull 2 gpw, I just dont think it can be done with "any" strain. If you could get that off Larry OG then you would be a master in my book.

 

[rzza]

Is larry a weak yielder? I plan on picking up 24 clones today lol

 

[strictly seedleSs]

yeah, its not a heavy yielder, but the smoke is top notch. id say its a medium to light yielder.

 

[snowgrow19]

Thanks for the update and reply. The plant in your video at the 2:00 min. mark is off the charts.

Yeha no worries, and thanks. That's the purple kush I was talking about. Not many leaves and nice fatty nugs

looking good snowgrow. I dont disagree about being able to pull 2 gpw, I just dont think it can be done with "any" strain. If you could get that off Larry OG then you would be a master in my book.

Yeah I agree with that. It's like the pre 98 bubba kush I was running a few times... great weed, terrible yield.

 

[hydrolife]

thanks snow that X trick is gonna help I was just picking my brain as to how to make this next batch work switching it over lol. I just hope this first crop makes it I vegged too long I think and first time doing the screen didnt work out too well, put branches through the screen too early well guess thats why you live and learn lol

 

[IgrowUgrow]

Is larry a weak yielder? I plan on picking up 24 clones today lol

Yea larry og is def not known for its yeild, but the larry og is a connesiourer dream. I personally love larry og because of flavor and aroma, but the potency shouldnt be looked over its some strong smoke. I dont know if I had the same genetics exactly that you are getting but what I have was very nice. The strain I smoked was called lemon larry og, so it might be a lemon cross or something but damn it was good.

 

[snowgrow19]

Shit is looking amazing in the current grow. Time to start a new thread... check it out!

 

[jigfresh]

Am I missing something??? Where's the new thread?

 

[snowgrow19]

Am I missing something??? Where's the new thread?

Hehe sorry... Vertical Flooded Tube Dual 600w - Purple Kush and Golden Goat