Herm late in flower...

Harrekin

Harrekin

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Basically Iv a few plants throwing out nanners with 1 1/2 weeks to go (7ish weeks), but I think this is from the fact for they were flowering for 5 weeks before "week 1" because my grow area was suffering extreme cold, and had basically "paused" themselves and I started counting from when I got a heater. My theory is that the plants know their true age regardless of development so they're throwing out the late "safety" nanners.

Anyways, Iv been carefully cutting the nanners off, but should I be worrying, Im gonna be chopping in a week and a half, can pollination from a few I miss fuck my plants up too badly at this stage? Iv searched the great Googly-mooglie and got a few vague answers but I want something solid. Thanks in advance, +rep for helpful replies only.

EDIT: And the other hermi thread here really doesnt help, I want someone who can tell me the specific answer whilst bearing in mind that I dont thnk anything has been pollinated, but if it did in the next week or so, would seeds even have time to grow?
 
shrigpiece

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I had this happen 2 me a while back on a skunk 1. The smoke was still dank. I did the same as you i just picked the nannas off. You will be fine!
 
ddimebag

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My SLH hermied a little late in flowering...its curing now, but I tried an uncured sample, and I can tell you, its gonna be an awesome smoke! The single most resinous plant I ever grew...
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Sunbiz1 said:
Is this how you developed the theory of separate genes?.
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Nah it's just what got me to read up on breeding and the methods of feminising seeds, and rodelisation (sp?) is one that has been in use for a long time and it involves allowing a plant to go overripe to cause it to Hermie for survival without any prominent Hermie offspring problems. Now given that all cannabis plants can intersex after being allowed to go past due, regardless of a complete lack of stress related Hermie tendencies and given that Hermie parents tend to pass their tendencies onto their offspring, I concluded (amongst others) that there differences between Hermies with traits genetically that can be passed on and other latent tendencies to Hermie (such as late flower) that cannot be passed genetically.

Now genetic Hermies and plants that intersex easily (from a genetic tendency) are two distinct things. A genetic Hermie is a Hermie from seed regardless of stress, etc. it will always be a male/female mix. The Hermies we encounter are generally just weak to stress from genetic factors.

This is what Iv discovered from extensive reading, I don't think there is a study officially on it, however there is clearly a difference between CS/Rodelised feminised plants and the weak-sauce will Hermie at anything variety of seeds and the logic of the above (not my data personally, however it makes perfect sense) suggests the above to be true.
 
BullwinkleOG

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Do you have any pictures? I was reading a grow book from ed Rosenthal that some plants will shoot out very few male flowers out of the bud, this is just a sign that they are about ready to harvest. the picture I saw had like 5 little male flowers poking right out of the bud but it didnt look like a herm
 
Sunbiz1

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Harrekin said:
Nah it's just what got me to read up on breeding and the methods of feminising seeds, and rodelisation (sp?) is one that has been in use for a long time and it involves allowing a plant to go overripe to cause it to Hermie for survival without any prominent Hermie offspring problems. Now given that all cannabis plants can intersex after being allowed to go past due, regardless of a complete lack of stress related Hermie tendencies and given that Hermie parents tend to pass their tendencies onto their offspring, I concluded (amongst others) that there differences between Hermies with traits genetically that can be passed on and other latent tendencies to Hermie (such as late flower) that cannot be passed genetically.

Now genetic Hermies and plants that intersex easily (from a genetic tendency) are two distinct things. A genetic Hermie is a Hermie from seed regardless of stress, etc. it will always be a male/female mix. The Hermies we encounter are generally just weak to stress from genetic factors.

This is what Iv discovered from extensive reading, I don't think there is a study officially on it, however there is clearly a difference between CS/Rodelised feminised plants and the weak-sauce will Hermie at anything variety of seeds and the logic of the above (not my data personally, however it makes perfect sense) suggests the above to be true.
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This explains quite a bit. Before I began purchasing seeds from breeders, I grew strictly commercial bagseed for years. I still do during summer months, use them for dummy plants in one spot b/c I have a fisherman that likes to dig them up and transplant somewhere else. Much of this commercial has been late harvest, and the beans are always around 75% fem.

Hmm, now I'm tempted to use good genetics outdoors for this purpose...let one go to seed all by itself?. Would a female clone do this?.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Sunbiz1 said:
This explains quite a bit. Before I began purchasing seeds from breeders, I grew strictly commercial bagseed for years. I still do during summer months, use them for dummy plants in one spot b/c I have a fisherman that likes to dig them up and transplant somewhere else. Much of this commercial has been late harvest, and the beans are always around 75% fem.

Hmm, now I'm tempted to use good genetics outdoors for this purpose...let one go to seed all by itself?. Would a female clone do this?.
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Yeah it should do, the problem with my part of the world for that is there's no way I could keep a plant alive long enough to herm and pollenate fresh females before the hard winter set in.

Iv no pictures of the dirty little bananas I got on that plant, but they literally looked like little yellow bananas or horns sticking out of the buds. Thankfully it only happened the once, apart from some Ministry of Cannabis Zensation which turned lady-boy about 1 1/2 weeks into flower...I totally trashed that seed company hard many a place over that and will never grow their shite again.
 
Sunbiz1

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Harrekin said:
Yeah it should do, the problem with my part of the world for that is there's no way I could keep a plant alive long enough to herm and pollenate fresh females before the hard winter set in.

Iv no pictures of the dirty little bananas I got on that plant, but they literally looked like little yellow bananas or horns sticking out of the buds. Thankfully it only happened the once, apart from some Ministry of Cannabis Zensation which turned lady-boy about 1 1/2 weeks into flower...I totally trashed that seed company hard many a place over that and will never grow their shite again.
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Same here, my cutoff date is Nov 1st at the latest for in-grounds, but I'll bet herijuana IBL would work. I'm flowering it at the moment, stuff does not mess around. I took 2 clones off her 4 days ago figuring I could keep them in my flowering room until roots develop...wrong!. This morning they were already showing pistils, gonna have to move them to the veg room right away from now on.

Meh, can't find my old pics either. I had one last year that looked just like your description. The reason I got bananas was due to a reversed light schedule, and it happened 8 weeks into flowering due to my own laziness. I have a sun room here, and started from seed in November...vegged it all Winter. Then I allowed it to stay on nature's schedule in April, as daylight hours were increasing. Poor girl didn't know what to think, and the nanners never produced any pollen...so I smoked them as well!.

Peace
 
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