ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
finally got my Bubblenow xl and 20 gallon 8 bag set in the mail today whoop!! waxing the northwest now...pics soon

matt..how much weight in fesh frozen trim should i be putting in my 20 gallon 220 zipper bag?

the whole machine fits in my chest freezer too! that means my trim never has to leave the freezer
not sure on weight. smaller runs are better.
I also would not put the whole machine in the freezer unless truly needed.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Bigup the 408 crew. My biggest fans :-D
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Bird Gymnastics

New Member
not sure on weight. smaller runs are better.
I also would not put the whole machine in the freezer unless truly needed.
I've found doing it indoors is much better then outdoors. My best results have been in tempuratures around 65-70. Also making your own ice is a real advantage most people over look. You are the man professor Rize! Are you going to enter the LA medical marijuana cup??
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I've found doing it indoors is much better then outdoors. My best results have been in tempuratures around 65-70. Also making your own ice is a real advantage most people over look. You are the man professor Rize! Are you going to enter the LA medical marijuana cup??
Not entering the cup. I'll tell you from first hand experience that its a total rip off and joke. Thanks for the feedback.
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
Not entering the cup. I'll tell you from first hand experience that its a total rip off and joke. Thanks for the feedback.
No problem man. I believe what you do in the concentrate world is by far the best. Keep on keepin' on! Can you elaborate as towhy it is a joke and/or rip off?
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
No problem man. I believe what you do in the concentrate world is by far the best. Keep on keepin' on! Can you elaborate as towhy it is a joke and/or rip off?
Okay that was a little harsh. But this cup specifically is a race for second place. The previous CA concentrate winner didn't enter. That doesn't mean its not a competition, but without Vern... its a chance for some of the challengers to battle. The whole thing, think about it, its not a vote. "They" pick a winner.
 

PeyoteReligion

Well-Known Member
Can you extract an extract?

My friend just asked me this question, and I did not know the answer. So I came here.
The specific question is this: Can you use ice extract hash as product for making BHO, rather than trim/bud?
I thinks this is redundant, but value your opinion Matt Rize. So what do you think?
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Can you extract an extract?

My friend just asked me this question, and I did not know the answer. So I came here.
The specific question is this: Can you use ice extract hash as product for making BHO, rather than trim/bud?
I thinks this is redundant, but value your opinion Matt Rize. So what do you think?
The answer is yes you can.
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
Okay that was a little harsh. But this cup specifically is a race for second place. The previous CA concentrate winner didn't enter. That doesn't mean its not a competition, but without Vern... its a chance for some of the challengers to battle. The whole thing, think about it, its not a vote. "They" pick a winner.
I agree with you. Vern is the guy that has Philips Rx? His stuff is amazing and understand as to why you wouldn't enter. The one cup I went to awhile back I felt the same way, that it was fixed. Some buds I loved and saw others absolutely stunned by the same and those buds didn't even place. Seemed like it was because they were from no name seed co lol
 

400aZip

Well-Known Member
Im going to be honest with you. I have read some of this thread and others, made some hash myself even. Why is the 'bubblehash' I think of (what I saw made before) just look like compressed kief and this bubblehash looks like...well how yours looks, what I usually see called 'Ice wax'. yours looks much danker obviously, more like an oil, so I assume i'd be better to dab than the SHIT im talking about. Im relatively new to the world of concentrates and am generally interested in BHO but I wouldnt mind and expert telling me whats up. I have a harvest coming up and plan on using 2 out of 3 plants for concentrates. thanks in advance :leaf:
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Im going to be honest with you. I have read some of this thread and others, made some hash myself even. Why is the 'bubblehash' I think of (what I saw made before) just look like compressed kief and this bubblehash looks like...well how yours looks, what I usually see called 'Ice wax'. yours looks much danker obviously, more like an oil, so I assume i'd be better to dab than the SHIT im talking about. Im relatively new to the world of concentrates and am generally interested in BHO but I wouldnt mind and expert telling me whats up. I have a harvest coming up and plan on using 2 out of 3 plants for concentrates. thanks in advance :leaf:
Bubble hash is the term Bubbleman created in an attempt to get more $ for his business. Ice Water Extract is what we are really talking about. "Ice Wax" is a term I made up to refer to my long/detailed set of techniques.

"bubble hash" is typically pressed, this is an old school mistake, perpetuated by the likes of bubbleman and others, that I am trying to undo.

My extracts have a few major differences from typical ice water extracts.
1) Ultra pure separation
2) I often use fresh frozen material
3) Microplane texture to the extract -> dabs WAY better.
 

bigcarty24

Active Member
Bubble hash is the term Bubbleman created in an attempt to get more $ for his business. Ice Water Extract is what we are really talking about. "Ice Wax" is a term I made up to refer to my long/detailed set of techniques.

"bubble hash" is typically pressed, this is an old school mistake, perpetuated by the likes of bubbleman and others, that I am trying to undo.

My extracts have a few major differences from typical ice water extracts.
1) Ultra pure separation
2) I often use fresh frozen material
3) Microplane texture to the extract -> dabs WAY better.
..

Yupp.. I jst got myself a microplane for this upcoming crop. You know.. I am finding alot of people are thinking if there wax is not sticky and googy..., something must of went wrong. Not True. Ive made some killer dry crumble.. It's all strain related.., and how you cure your finshed product. Since Ive followed Matt now.. I do a minimum of 4 week cure. Even longer..., and when you open the jar after a long cure... you'll know what I am talking about.
 

chiefpuffaloe

Active Member
i keep trying to put all the pieces together from the bits i hear from matt and the bits i hear from nikka, just hoping i can piece it together. should be getting some bags soon

You like the sean 1000 watt bags at all Matt? look pretty nice with the all mesh design.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
i keep trying to put all the pieces together from the bits i hear from matt and the bits i hear from nikka, just hoping i can piece it together. should be getting some bags soon

You like the sean 1000 watt bags at all Matt? look pretty nice with the all mesh design.
Bits? I'd like to think this thread offers more than that. ;)

Never heard of them bags. I'm using a few name brands. I would suggest contacting www.extractionking.com for some probags. He hooks it up big time.
 

bigcarty24

Active Member
Bits? I'd like to think this thread offers more than that. ;)

Never heard of them bags. I'm using a few name brands. I would suggest contacting www.extractionking.com for some probags. He hooks it up big time.
Yupp.. This thread taught me the right way to make fire IceWax. IceWax is the easiest concentrate to make in my opinion. Now I have been using my 5 gallon stir method. I mix in my 220 work bag for 10-15 minutes untill theres a nice layer of foam on top. I then put the bucket with the 220 work bag into my deep freezer for 15-20 minutes to settle. Now matt does not let it settle I think.. (but not sure). I then take it out and give it a quick slow 1-2 min stir again and then start to strain. Next.., I use the 160 to catch the cooking grade IceWax. Next I use the 73 or the 45. Most of time I collect between 160 and 45. (strain dependent).. and I usualy only use the 73 for personal. But I switch it up all the time. Always trying something new and perfecting my method.

Now before Rizeup..., I followed bubble mans method of drying and curing. Now I would not dare to put my Wax on cardboard. anyways.. bubbleman said to brake up the Wax right after extraction. Which Ive done for many years... and my hash was always a bit harsh and when put on cardboard I found the hash to take a bit of the smell from the cardboard. (which I did not like) I knew something was not right... so i started to let my Wax jst dry and settle in a clump on a sheet of wax paper for 24hrs or soo.. I then proceded to brake up the WaxI then into as small of pieces that I could get it. (but now I got a Microplane... wootwootwoot). Some people think the wax is ready to smoke now...,(and I guess u can if u want) but I stll let it dry for another 24-48 hrs. It shud be like a dry crumble (like I said.., strain dependent) but still got some tecture to it. Now I like to take photos of before and after the cure. You'll realy get a feel for what curing does to your hash if you let if cure in a glass container for a long period of time. But no longer than 6 months. The Hash starts to loose its Kick after awhile I found.
Trust me when I say making FIRE ICEWAX is all about the product going into the process and a good cure. It's realy that simple..

RizeUp... n make yourself a batch of Ice.
 
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