Advice needed please!

[topsecret2012]

can somone please tell me what is going on with my plants - e.c 1.1, ph 5.8, temps 27/28

 

[shadowdarker]

looks like they are over watered? look very droopy not perky like they should and maybe a bit of bleacing what light you using ?

 

[*BUDS]

You need to bump up the waterings and nutes(slightly), looks like moisture stress

 

[ChoofyN]

Over watering maybe?
what nutrients are you feeding them, could possibly be lacking notes look pretty hungry

 

[topsecret2012]

looks like they are over watered? look very droopy not perky like they should and maybe a bit of bleacing what light you using ?

using 600 hps - 1.5 ft away from ligts, it only seems to be the bottom leaves on one that are turning yellow

i though it was over watering to - only fed once a day for last couple of days, yesterday they looked even more droopy so watered again and the perked up apart from the first on left -

not sure what to do ??

thanks for your help

 

[topsecret2012]

Over watering maybe?
what nutrients are you feeding them, could possibly be lacking notes look pretty hungry

flushed with water for 2 days, now feeding using ec of 1.1, maybe not enough nutes but they were doing this before on an ec of 1.57
starting to drive me mad!!

 

[topsecret2012]

You need to bump up the waterings and nutes(slightly), looks like moisture stress

more or less water??

thanks

 

[shadowdarker]

im going to stick with they look over watered leave them a day and see if they perk up without any water.

 

[ChoofyN]

You flushed for 2 days or every 2 days, please tell me this is a typo.
If you flooded with water for 2 days you surely drowned her roots and i'm not surprised she doesn't look more droopy then she already is.
Please let her dry out bait before watering again if this is the case, then start on this >

with hydroton you only need to flood for 15 minutes every 3 hours or so..

and the lower yellow leaves are due to lack of nutrients i believe.

 

[topsecret2012]

You flushed for 2 days or every 2 days, please tell me this is a typo.
If you flooded with water for 2 days you surely drowned her roots and i'm not surprised she doesn't look more droopy then she already is.
Please let her dry out bait before watering again if this is the case, then start on this >

with hydroton you only need to flood for 15 minutes every 3 hours or so..

no, i flushed with water once a day for 2 days (15 mins) - im using rockwool - small cubes in big cubes in clay pepples

when i reduced the watering form 4 to one they appeared to dry out??

thanks for your help fella

 

[shadowdarker]

rockwool will retain moisture for a good few days if you have a large rockwool cube beneath your clay pebbles i would let it dry out for a couple days before you water again.

 

[topsecret2012]

rockwool will retain moisture for a good few days if you have a large rockwool cube beneath your clay pebbles i would let it dry out for a couple days before you water again.

thanks for the reply - i did try this but they started to drop even more - when i watered they perked up ?

 

[shadowdarker]

well maybe im getting it all wrong but it does look like over watering. as was previously stated try floodong for no longer than 15 minutes every 3-4 hours during there light period, if they perk up your doing something right. they are a very hardy plant and can stand up to a bit of abuse. without being there and looking over them its very hard to comment. its all trial and error till you find your feet. if as you say they perk up when watered maybe they are under watered?? as it has similar drooping effects. untill the plant has a good root sytem i would advise not too flood as often to let them roots go searching for there food creating a much more sturdy stronger plant. fingers crossed you get it sorted. post up a complete run down of system watering frequancy ppm ph ec ect maybe able to get more advice

 

[ChoofyN]

you're under watering then.

there's no need for the second big rock wool cube, i'm guessing you germ'd in a little one, all you need to do is put the little one into the clay pebbles (which by looks, is what you've done) good? well water every 3rd hour directly onto the rock wool for 15 minutes.. i'm sure there's other watering schedules out there that work for this type of setup, but i also grow in hydroton/rockwool and this is what i've done from start. i have never came across an over or under watered plants just plants that look extremely healthy always.

 

[topsecret2012]

well maybe im getting it all wrong but it does look like over watering. as was previously stated try floodong for no longer than 15 minutes every 3-4 hours during there light period, if they perk up your doing something right. they are a very hardy plant and can stand up to a bit of abuse. without being there and looking over them its very hard to comment. its all trial and error till you find your feet. if as you say they perk up when watered maybe they are under watered?? as it has similar drooping effects. untill the plant has a good root sytem i would advise not too flood as often to let them roots go searching for there food creating a much more sturdy stronger plant. fingers crossed you get it sorted. post up a complete run down of system watering frequancy ppm ph ec ect maybe able to get more advice

thanks for taking the time to reply - having spoke to the retailer who sold me the wilma it appears my rockwool has too much water in it - when i stop watering there is enough for the small roots in the cube but the roots in the clay pepples are geeting starved of water which is why they are wilting after a few hours

ive been told the solution is to move my drippers away from the rockwool and directly into the clay - therby feeding the bigger roots and not the oxegen starved small roots in rockwool

this make a lots of sense to me, what do you think ? - once gain, thanks for your time, top man

 

[topsecret2012]

you're under watering then.

there's no need for the second big rock wool cube, i'm guessing you germ'd in a little one, all you need to do is put the little one into the clay pebbles (which by looks, is what you've done) good? well water every 3rd hour directly onto the rock wool for 15 minutes.. i'm sure there's other watering schedules out there that work for this type of setup, but i also grow in hydroton/rockwool and this is what i've done from start. i have never came across an over or under watered plants just plants that look extremely healthy always.

thanks for the reply - as you point out, i should not have used the biggger cube i think using the bigger cube as well as made matters worse - ive just posted a reply to the water issue - the rockwool is retaining too much moisture for small roots - when i stop watering the cube does not dry but the long roots in clay does which causes the plant to wilt ?

cheers dude

 

[ChoofyN]

thanks for taking the time to reply - having spoke to the retailer who sold me the wilma it appears my rockwool has too much water in it - when i stop watering there is enough for the small roots in the cube but the roots in the clay pepples are geeting starved of water which is why they are wilting after a few hours

ive been told the solution is to move my drippers away from the rockwool and directly into the clay - therby feeding the bigger roots and not the oxegen starved small roots in rockwool

this make a lots of sense to me, what do you think ? - once gain, thanks for your time, top man

Makes pretty good sense to me, once you have a decent root system going on revert back to feeding into the rockwool as hydroton holds shit all water and rockwool the opposite so the water in the rockwool can seep off during the dry phase keeping the longer roots from getting to dry.