deprave
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And that is what it all comes down is being practical and realistic, Gandi said "In fact, while you are doing it, cleaning the toilet seems far more important then the law". The government does not care about your health, they can not possibly, even if they did they wouldn't be good at it. This is a major argument against libertarianism and it based not in rationality nor logic. They argue, without government 'How can we have Roadz?", As libertarians or anarchist we tend to want to answer that with sort of 'well we could have roads by this manner and that method' this is just going in circles and self defeating. You need to turn it around ask of them something like "How do you think we can have roads without governement?" or the discussion just dead ends into a deadend argument and not a civil discussion because they can't imagine the stateless society utopia we dream of and they just go into a pessimism so we have to get on equal footing here. Regardless of that whole point being null as far as libertarians (who do believe in some government therefore are likely to support roads funded by the government) I hope you can see what I am saying.
So with that I must ask st0wandgrow so that we can properly discuss this: what is it you believe? How is it that the individual should be regulated by the state? How should the state be regulated by the individual? What are your ideas and solutions and how can this apply universally and/or even eternally? And finally please explain to us what is wrong with the founding fathers and the constitution, specifically what does not apply and what does?
