Endless Sky

[The realAKgrown]

Hahaha! Sorry, didn't read the whole thread. And of course, this being my first post, you guys probably think I'm just some dumbass, hahaha! BUT, I've ran several DrGt strains and all were world class. Think I work for him or sucking his dick all you want, I have NO interest/investment in promoting his work. After all the shit in this thread I'm sure you're minds are made up. but I will be doing a grow and show on up to 3 sites on Doc's regular EndlessSky. He knows me, I tell it how it is; if your herb is shit, that's what I'm gonna say, and he still sends me free packs whenever to grow and show, and knows my word carries weight. Sorry for your guys' luck and/or skills(sorry, sort of, if that sounded rude), that sucks. If you'd like to see how plants are supposed to be grown(organics/TLO/nature), I'll let you know when and where the threads/s will be. And I know, me coming in acting like I'm big shit my first post really isn't cool, I apologize for that. But if you think I'm some newb grower, check my rep, I'm AKgrown anywhere I'm at. And if you know about SnowHighSeeds, you know what kind of work we do. Watch my EndlessSky grow, then form your thesis.

 

[SSHZ]

Well, I recommend you read thru this forum. There are a number of very experienced growers that commented in here- probably with more experience than you have and it seems lately no one is having any real success with this shitty strain. No one has any other negative comments on Doc's other stuff, just the E.S. It also kills me when someone feels strongly enough never to have posted here before but joins to comment on E.S.-no matter what you have to say, you will be viewed as another Doc shill. Spend the next 3 months or so relating a detailed grow report and you may change some minds but again- maybe not. Lastly, make sure you grow his feminized E.S., not the "new" regular seeds that just became available. Our complaints are with the fem's. And by the way, who directed you here? Doc or his wife? Since you admitted they are giving you seeds to document the grow- it's obvious they are trying to negate all the complaints on the strain........it's doubtful you just happened by???????????

 

[The realAKgrown]

Don't get me wrong, I read enough to get the picture. I made it plenty clear about me not working for, or whatever, DrGt. Yep, first post, sorry, been real stressed lately, but are there rules where my first post has to be in a certain place and I can't speak my mind? I never mentioned anyone's name saying they were bad growers, I'm sure plenty people on this site are better than me, I'm in no ego contest, I'm after every bit of knowledge I can get. And yeah, I actually am running the reg beans, if the fems suck, I guess they suck, but I've never ran them. I've wanted the reg EndlessSky beans for a while and look forward to doing this selection. Anyone run the reg beans?

On another note; I never insulted you or anyone else. Doc or his wife?! Really?! Holy shit. And obvious? No, obviously you're just confused. Hahaha! It's funny cuz in all actuality, I came upon this thread searching for helpful info on the strain before I ran it. Kinda make sense yet? Either you're paranoid as hell or deal with some real fucked up people. I, nor anyone I deal with is anything less than genuine. I'm sure I'm coming off as the biggest asshole, but don't attack me because I'm gonna run a strain some growers couldn't handle. Listen, I'm trying to be nice. Do your thing and I'll do mine.

 

[SSHZ]

Well, bottom line is your grow isn't relevant to this forum since it was all about Doc's fem E.S. seeds that have been available the last few years. Just recently he released the regular E.S. seeds (like the last few months)- supposedly rebread again to improve the strain again and offset all the negativity of the fem's. Secondly, I never said you insulted anyone so what are you talking about regarding that? THirdly, you're not coming off as an asshole- just not informed as to what this entire thread of 162 posts is all about. To sum it up since you haven't read it all- I complained about the end product and have gotten into it with a number of GreenThumb shills, mainly his wife. ResearchKitty, a mod here had just started a major grow of it and as she had finished up and relayed she too was generally unhappy (average quality that took 2 weeks longer than expected). Others have piped in back and forth, some good but mostly bad. I think if you eliminate the Doc's shills, there's a lot more bad than good. Everyone here has basically agreed the strain once was excellent, maybe 3-4 years ago and people who are having success with it are using cuttings from mothers way back then or old seeds. There's loads of bad grows reports all over the net now if you care to search. Lately it was reported that Doc lost the originally parents and when he created new seeds, they were a bust. Lastly, I'm not attacking you- I wish you a good grow. But it's not relevant in this thread since they are way different seeds. Why not start a new grow thread and move on from there........

 

[The realAKgrown]

I did read the whole thread, and honestly, what I noticed most is that you're a hater.

And no matter how many grows you have under your belt(of strains beginners would probably have a real easy time running, I checked out your grows), you're STILL growing synthetic hydro, hahaha! So, no matter what you or others say, you're an amateur. I grew synthetic hydro at 15 years old when I didn't know any better. As long as you're growing that poison, you're nothing more than a cash-cropper at best and definitely NOT a caregiver. Caregivers don't give their patients poison. Can't wait for your next super intelligent reply.

 

[SSHZ]

LOL......the real person finally comes out. Boy, that didn't long at all. You're just another Dr. GreenThumb shill like we all expected from the beginning. Go crawl back into your hole loser.

1. I am not a caregiver, never claimed to be. I am in it for profit, it's my living, and I do quite well- thank you. You could only wish to have my lifestyle.

2. I'm guessing I've been growing longer than your age. I'm not a hater, I have a loyal following and offer mucho help on a number of sites. My issue, and only issue is with Endless Sky. You won't really find me out hating any other strains elsewhere. Just the shitty ones.

3. Synthetic hydro?????? It's obvious you don't have a clue what your talking about. Haven't done hydro since 1990...... I grow easy, high yielding strains that are done quickly. My customers are happy and therefore I am. I've never claimed otherwise.

So, start a new thread and document your 3 plant grow and leave us haters alone........LOL.... I think most peoples minds are made up already one way or another already. It's obvious Doc keeps sending his employees to this forum, all with no or a few posts.

Lastly, I've been civil with you and it only took 3 posts for you to start the hating. Doc's E.S. sales must be way down if he keeps sending you POS's here to defend and criticize endlessly.......... and from this point onward, I won't respond back at you but for each post you make in this thread, I'll search and post three "hate posts" on Endless Sky from the various sites I belong to...... just so you know it's not only me.

 

[boneheadbob]

Boneheadbob: If your goal is to get a good mommy, plant all 11 and pick the best............ If one seed looks like a runt already, throw it in the trash and plant more. Even at Greenthumbs prices, seeds are easier to throw away bad ones than growing it for months and taking tons of clones off of shit. I found if my seeds dont germinate within 24 hours they generally wont do much of anything........ GL!

I have a 12 plant limit so I will be lucky to keep two moms. I have only grown for a year but I am having fun popping lots of beans and smoking all my moms

Although I smoked one I wish I had not. A chocolate rain fron Eskober. I inhaled and it took me right back to 1975, smoking real thia stick so I bought two packs and I will find it again, I hope!!

 

[researchkitty]

There are two types of people in this thread:

- Those who have grown Endless Sky and know its weak and know the whole story because they read/participated in this thread.

- Those who are Dr Greenthumb employees, lovers, or fans, sticking up for shit they dont know *anything* about.

Which are you? I know which one I am!

 

[SSHZ]

Thanks Kitty.......I knew you were watching. This must really be choking Doc's goat. From this point forward, I will only post others negative comments from other sites. I'm not going to battle one on one in a tag team match with his people anymore. It can only be said in so many ways......

 

[researchkitty]

Its just sad that people think they can register and jump right in this thread pretending to be an experienced grower. I mean come on Dr Greenthumb, at least make some contributing posts first so your accounts dont look like spam ones, eh?

 

[SSHZ]

Sorry but I couldn't help myself. Here is a 1st post in a new forum started by someone else here on RIU:

• [h=2]Drgreenthumb warning!! A must read!![/h]

  I placed an order with this POS and hadsome problems having things delivered. Long story short, this POSwould not work with me so I disputed the charges with my credit cardcompany which I won. Well a few weeks later I get two voicemailmessages stating that if I do not pay, then this POS DRGREENTHUMBsaid he is going to contact the DEA and give them all of myinformation. This was then followed up by another voicemail just 15minutes later that stated that he had already in fact given them myphone number and the address information that they were supposed tobe shipped to.
  
  
  I don't know about you, but this actionFOR WHATEVER THE REASON is just TABOO when it comes to marijuana andIMO in anything! ANYONE that would ever threaten to do this is atotal PIECE OF $HIT and IMO should be himself narced on, which Ifully intend to do!
  
  
  If you want to deal with a POS likethis then be my guest. I know I would NEVER deal with anyone thatwould even makes threats of this. I am not going to return to thisthread to discuss anything. This is a WARNING about someone in thisindustry that can obviously NOT be trusted to keep your informationprivate. If he will threaten to do this, just think how he will giveup his customer list if he were to ever get busted. You would have tobe an IDIOT to deal with someone that would say this no matter whatthe reason!
  
  
  I HOPE YOU GO OUT OF BUSINESS YOU POSDRGREENTHUMB!!!​

  
  
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[researchkitty]

Sadly, that's not the first time I've heard about Greenthumb's "I'll give the DEA your info" threat.........

Tomorrow is a harvest with mostly Endless Sky, and a few other strains in small numbers. Bubblelicious and Snow White. I'll make a little video, you'll laugh your heads off at what the other strains look at in comparison, and then when you consider they are at 1200ppm max too, knowing Bub/SW like up to 1800ppm in flower to pack on nugs, it'll really make you wonder what's with Endless Sky. The other strains are roughly the same size, however SUBSTANTIALLY more dense, developed, and pungent. Expect that in the next day, or two.

 

[punatang808]

Endless Sky is working good for me, no problems yet. BUT then again I didn't buy them from Dr.GreenThumb, I got beans from an experienced old time gardener(like yourselves) who claims they've been growing the strain for years. I told him where I live and he suggested this strain to me and gave me 17 seeds, all of them popped. He told me it works good in area's with lots of rain because it's mold resistant and doesn't take that long til harvest. I never heard of this strain my entire life so I wanted to see if it was legit, and sure enough I look it up and found this thread with details of the plant that match exactly what he said. Pretty neat! Anyway, just stopping by. Good luck!

 

[punatang808]

Also if you can help me out, check out my thread:
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/511671-150-watt-hps-vs-t5.html
Appreciate it!

 

[SSHZ]

Kitty......VERY excited to see pic's/video of the crop!!!! Happy Valentine's day, miss wonderful!

Puna...... If you read thru the forum, you'll see people who have the older version, which it appears your buddy does, love the product and it's strength and quality. Feel free to keep us updated. If only the newer beans could provide the quality like the past ones- we wouldn't find it necessary to have this thread!

 

[punkenstien]

Hey SSHZ, I have always enjoyed seeing and reading up on your grows. Everything o.k. bro? Lately I sense a lil hostility and negativity on quite a few of your posts which I thought was a bit out of your character. Whatever you have going on I hope you get it worked out. Positive vibes headed your way bro. Hope to see the happy positive SSHZ back again soon.

 

[SSHZ]

Well, I appreciate you being nice about it Punk!. Yes, I've been a dick lately. I've been sick for about 2 weeks now and have been feeling miserable. It shows in my posts obviously. Sorry to all, don't really mean to be this way. See what happens when a 30+ year smoker stops (YES, STOPS!!!!!) smoking for a few weeks. It's the longest (by far) I've gone without since I started smoking daily 34 years ago. I've got beautiful jars full of Green Poison, OG Kush #18 and Purple StarDawg and haven't touched them. It's time to cool down, reduce the posting a bit and just stick with documenting my current grows. Again, thanks for the positive karma dude!

 

[cleverpiggy]

I cant find this post about the Dr Greenthumb DEA threat, what's the thread title?

 

[SSHZ]

He listed the title in the post: "Dr GreenTHumb warning!! A must read!!"


There haven't been any posts in it today, I think, so you have to search back a bunch of pages.

 

[nightfun]

He listed the title in the post: "Dr GreenTHumb warning!! A must read!!"


There haven't been any posts in it today, I think, so you have to search back a bunch of pages.

The thread is gone! I was reading it yesterday, when I clicked to go to page 10 I got a message saying the article I was looking for was gone. Then I went back to the list of posts and yes indeed it was gone.

All I can think it's a dr NOGREENTHUMB supporter. I would not put it past that rip off guy to say he would RAT out anyone. Dr NOGREENTHUMB has shown many times that he will rip you off and basically call you a piece of shit if you don't kiss his ass. As SSHZ has said in the past.. STAY AWAY FROM THIS CROOK OF A SEED SELLER! Save your money and use a seedbank or breeder that will treat you with respect when there is a problem and not his shitty attitude!