White Widow Nitrogen claw

Buddhakhan

Buddhakhan

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Well its growing in a an air conditioned closet, so it stays between 72-79 degrees at all times. Airflow maybe? But it's a 400cfm fan in about a 400cubic feet closet, so I wouldn't think that would do it. I emptied the res, and went full nute on the sensi bloom. What's weird is, the moms look totally different, wide fat short leaves. These four clones have mostly three leaflet long and now clawed leaves. Grrr, making me want to go back to dwc, but I don't want to have to wait four months a harvest. Would rather just pull up four every month so I can switch it up depending on what strains I prefer.
 
luciferateme

luciferateme

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have u got a hygrometer to measure what your humidity is? the air conditioner and the heat from the light may be stripping too much moisture from the air, if it was me thats the first place i would look. as jonny said the enviro is vital to a good grow.
 
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Randm

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I grew White Widow about a year ago. What I noticed about this particular strain is that it required much less in the way of nutes than other strains. I had difficulty for a while until I realized this and gave them a good flushing. They recovered fine, but I had to cut my nutes way down. Another problem came up when I noticed that all my plants ( White Widow and others ) seemed to be 'stuck' in earky bloom with little or no progression, even thogh the flower time was past their due date. It turned out to be that all my 400 watt HPS lamps where getting too old. When I replaced my lamps all the plants perked up and finished out quite well. I now replace my lamps at least once a year or every 3rd grow.
I don't know if this will be any help or not, as I grow in soil under 400 watt hps lamps.
 
Buddhakhan

Buddhakhan

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Seems if it were between buy a meter, buy a hygrometer, and buy an ro system, I could just go back to dwc where I was pulling a zip a plant with 12/12 from seed. Seems it would be much cheaper.. Maybe the dwc keeps more moisture in the hydroton so it doesn't lose as much humidity? but the soil and dwc grows never showed anything this odd..
 
Buddhakhan

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Lights aren't the issue either, bulb is two weeks old, ballast is a week old. Went cheap the first go round, bought better equipment for this go round.. Maybe I should just take the pump from my ebb an flow and turn it into an aero sog. I really like the sog idea and dwc just doesn't seem to work well with it.
 
Buddhakhan

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Well pretty sure they were just hungry. Two days into full strength bloom nutes and the new growth looks perfectly healthy. Thanks for all the advice. After I make a good harvest on this ebb and flow I will start a journal.
 
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infoseek

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Buddhakhan said:
Lights aren't the issue either, bulb is two weeks old, ballast is a week old. Went cheap the first go round, bought better equipment for this go round.. Maybe I should just take the pump from my ebb an flow and turn it into an aero sog. I really like the sog idea and dwc just doesn't seem to work well with it.
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This really shouldn't be so hard to figure out at all.. what part of the plant is affected? My first thought was that you need to raise your lights.

It is not the humidity or any of that. It is 1 or 3 things alway!

1 leaf? Yes? Its pests. But if not

Are they curled and/or puffy then its over watering

I think your lights are prob too close but if not its nutrients and you need to flush and start over with half of what the bottle says to use

When I say too close I mean atlease 3ft away!
 
Buddhakhan

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I trimmed the lower stuff at 3 weeks to keep them skinny. I am shooting for 6 skinny plants a month at about an oz a piece. Cfls till 3 weeks and 400w for 8 weeks of flowering. That way as soon as my cloner gets roots, they start growing under 12/12. If it works, that 6 oz a month off 400w. Plenty o smoke.
 
Buddhakhan

Buddhakhan

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I thin it's the water. More deficiencies are showing, not in a huge amount, but spotty, here and there. So filterguys ro system will be my Xmas gift to my girls.
 
Buddhakhan

Buddhakhan

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no, i haven't topped them, i just take the clones, let them root in an aero cloner and then into ebb and flow. i am starting some new strains now, but i did let one of the ww moms just go and now she is 2 weeks into flower and HUGE. i think its just this phenotype and it really dies off as the buds ripen. still too thin for my tastes, i have some green crack and bubblegum on the way now. will post pics once they go into flower.

below is a pick of two mosquito hawks doing it on my mom ww two weeks into flower, i know someone had a pic of two flies doing it, felt this might trump it. lol.
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bibbles

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Buddhakhan said:
no, i haven't topped them, i just take the clones, let them root in an aero cloner and then into ebb and flow. i am starting some new strains now, but i did let one of the ww moms just go and now she is 2 weeks into flower and HUGE. i think its just this phenotype and it really dies off as the buds ripen. still too thin for my tastes, i have some green crack and bubblegum on the way now. will post pics once they go into flower.

below is a pick of two mosquito hawks doing it on my mom ww two weeks into flower, i know someone had a pic of two flies doing it, felt this might trump it. lol.
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So, FYI, mosquito hawks don't eat mosquitoes, they eat the roots of plants (or rather, their larva do, pretty sure the adults don't eat anything). You might have wanted to get that shit the fuck out of there rather than taking a picture... just sayin'.
 
Buddhakhan

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i brought it inside from outside to avoid any more bugs and kicked the love birds off. so we should be good.
 
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bibbles

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Buddhakhan said:
i brought it inside from outside to avoid any more bugs and kicked the love birds off. so we should be good.
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Excellent; my friend would insist that they were good, along with spiders (which do make sense), when he was trying to do his guerrilla thing (super fail). I was super into bugs when I was younger, and I always find myself having to tell people that they aren't anything like what people assume.~
 
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