Indoor CFL grow journal of someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

[cirrus12]

yeah, let the soil dry before you water them again. This might take a day or two, depending on how well your soil drains. Just remember, the soil is either cold and wet or warm and dry.

As for superthrive, I know it's good stuff. I've never used it--I have an aeroponic setup, so it's a bit different than soil. But it's great stuff. prolly not for seedlings....

Alright, I'll go back to waiting for the two week mark to start with the superthrive.

I just turned the lights back on for tonight, I'm going to give them a couple of hours then I'll go and see how the soil is. In general, do I want to wait for the soil to be completely dry before I water them or is that just for the sake of finding out if this is because I'm over watering them?

 

[cirrus12]

Ok, first off, where are those pics?

VICTORY!!
I finally got to upload the pics, don't know what was wrong, but it works now. Go me, I rule! Here's a link to the post with pix

https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/63340-why-wont-my-plants-stand-2.html#post715698

 

[cirrus12]

The pic speaks for itself

 

[metagrower]

Turns out Superthrive is awesome for seedlings. If your seedlings wilted you are definitely overwatering. Wilting is death, according to the guy at the hydro shop near me. He suggested scrapping and starting over. If they're only seedlings then it shouldn't be a big deal -- as long as they're bag seed.

He says you are probably beyond anything superthrive can do for your seedlings. And if you are using Fox Farm soil you won't want to give nutes until 3 wks.

 

[cirrus12]

Turns out Superthrive is awesome for seedlings. If your seedlings wilted you are definitely overwatering. Wilting is death, according to the guy at the hydro shop near me. He suggested scrapping and starting over. If they're only seedlings then it shouldn't be a big deal -- as long as they're bag seed.

He says you are probably beyond anything superthrive can do for your seedlings. And if you are using Fox Farm soil you won't want to give nutes until 3 wks.

Can't scrap them all, they're the last of my seeds. Besides, there are a few that still look like they have a fighting chance.

The guy at your hydro store says superthrive is good for seedlings? Well then, hense forth they get superthrive.

 

[cirrus12]

Ok, so I just came out of the closet. It felt like there might still be some moisture in the cups so I resisted the urge to water them. When I went in Moon Beam II had fallen over again. Oi, this whole things is very depressing, I'll be so pissed if I lose the whole crop.

Of the 10, I pronounced two dead tonight. There's 3 that I think have a decent chance of survial and theres a couple that I'll say are maybe 50/50. Either way, I higly doubt that the two I pulled tonight will be the last ones. What is it with me and losing seedlings?

 

[metagrower]

Can't scrap them all, they're the last of my seeds. Besides, there are a few that still look like they have a fighting chance.

The guy at your hydro store says superthrive is good for seedlings? Well then, hense forth they get superthrive.

yeah. he said a capful of the small bottle per gal for seedlings.

 

[metagrower]

Alright, I'll go back to waiting for the two week mark to start with the superthrive.

I just turned the lights back on for tonight, I'm going to give them a couple of hours then I'll go and see how the soil is. In general, do I want to wait for the soil to be completely dry before I water them or is that just for the sake of finding out if this is because I'm over watering them?

I'm not a soil guy myself, I'm a hydro guy.. but in general I wait for my plants' soil to dry before I water. That way I know I'm not over-watering. Over-watering is more dangerous than under-watering. (but BOTH are bad!)

 

[metagrower]

Ok, so I just came out of the closet. It felt like there might still be some moisture in the cups so I resisted the urge to water them. When I went in Moon Beam II had fallen over again. Oi, this whole things is very depressing, I'll be so pissed if I lose the whole crop.

Of the 10, I pronounced two dead tonight. There's 3 that I think have a decent chance of survial and theres a couple that I'll say are maybe 50/50. Either way, I higly doubt that the two I pulled tonight will be the last ones. What is it with me and losing seedlings?

I learned early on that if the plant can fall, it will. I try not to put plants in precarious positions anymore, and try to secure them as best I can. Plants will lean and move toward the light. They don't know any better and are counting on you to make sure they are well grounded.

Perhaps some duct tape on the bottom of the pot or something might be in order?

You might also consider wiring up a cheap web cam so that you can keep an eye on them from your computer?

 

[cirrus12]

I learned early on that if the plant can fall, it will. I try not to put plants in precarious positions anymore, and try to secure them as best I can. Plants will lean and move toward the light. They don't know any better and are counting on you to make sure they are well grounded.

Perhaps some duct tape on the bottom of the pot or something might be in order?

You might also consider wiring up a cheap web cam so that you can keep an eye on them from your computer?

When I say it fell over, I don't mean that it fell off the bin. I mean that little Moon Beam II said "I can't take this anymore" and collapsed.

 

[cirrus12]

yeah. he said a capful of the small bottle per gal for seedlings.

A capful? The bottle says to use a drop per gallon

 

[cirrus12]

Who wants to be my favorite person in the world and buy me a present?

High Tech Garden Supply

 

[metagrower]

A capful? The bottle says to use a drop per gallon

*grumble*

I'm starting to think this guy is trying to kill my plants. I don't think I'm going to go back there.

 

[metagrower]

Who wants to be my favorite person in the world and buy me a present?

High Tech Garden Supply

A dual lamp 24" fixture cost $16 at Home Depot. The bulbs are a good deal through that site, apparently tho. $13 for 2 "Grow" 55W T5s? Sounds like a good deal to me. Then you can make your own homemade "bat wing" for like $5. No need to spend $70 on that. Then you can actually afford to get enough lights to make up for not spending it on a MH fixture.

T5s are awesome for under canopy lighting. I have found that my T5s don't produce enough heat to burn my plants, even when they touch them. I am trying to come up with a way to "skewer" my under-canopy with T5 bulbs. I'll probably wind up building my own box, of sorts.

 

[cirrus12]

*grumble*

I'm starting to think this guy is trying to kill my plants. I don't think I'm going to go back there.

Does that mean I shouldn't listen to him about giving superthrive to my seedlings?

 

[cirrus12]

A dual lamp 24" fixture cost $16 at Home Depot. The bulbs are a good deal through that site, apparently tho. $13 for 2 "Grow" 55W T5s? Sounds like a good deal to me. Then you can make your own homemade "bat wing" for like $5. No need to spend $70 on that. Then you can actually afford to get enough lights to make up for not spending it on a MH fixture.

T5s are awesome for under canopy lighting. I have found that my T5s don't produce enough heat to burn my plants, even when they touch them. I am trying to come up with a way to "skewer" my under-canopy with T5 bulbs. I'll probably wind up building my own box, of sorts.

I am not technically inclined, at all. Could you describe in greater detail exactly what I would need to do?

 

[metagrower]

Does that mean I shouldn't listen to him about giving superthrive to my seedlings?

nah, with as excited as this guy got, I am pretty sure he gives superthrive to his seedlings.

 

[metagrower]

I am not technically inclined, at all. Could you describe in greater detail exactly what I would need to do?

Well, building the wing is pretty much the only thing you'd need to build. And even that is kind of unnecessary if you have enough reflective material in your grow room. Remember, it's about maximizing the amount of light your plants receive. Anything that isn't white or silver absorbs light. (White is actually better than silver, but we won't get into that.) So, that being said, the wing is unimportant if you have a light tight area with the only things inside that aren't reflective being the plants and the bulbs themselves. This is a lot easier than it might sound. You need a light tight area to flower properly, anyways. But really it's pretty straight forward.

Did that answer your question?

 

[cirrus12]

I now have a new issue. This time its esmerelda and Princess. Here's a link to the thread I started for it.

https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/64084-yet-another-plant-issue-yellow.html#post720379

 

[cirrus12]

Well, building the wing is pretty much the only thing you'd need to build. And even that is kind of unnecessary if you have enough reflective material in your grow room. Remember, it's about maximizing the amount of light your plants receive. Anything that isn't white or silver absorbs light. (White is actually better than silver, but we won't get into that.) So, that being said, the wing is unimportant if you have a light tight area with the only things inside that aren't reflective being the plants and the bulbs themselves. This is a lot easier than it might sound. You need a light tight area to flower properly, anyways. But really it's pretty straight forward.

Did that answer your question?

I'll understand better after a trip to HD or lowes.