breeding a reg seed with a fem seed.
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Omgwtfbbq Indicaman
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fem's aren't for breeding. they will make regular seeds if you use a male x female. likelyhood of intersexing/hermaphroditism is increased.
kona gold
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You never know till you try? Yes chances are they will have some hermaphroditic tendencies, but i am curious anyway!
The ferm i used were: rks(reserva prevada),tangerine dream,acapulco gold and dr. Grispoon(barneys farm).
Non had shown any hermaphrodites, so i wonder if i will get any pure males and pure females!
They are at least worth trying for me since i can't get them in regular seed form.
I have been doing this for a while read many books on breeding, including Marijuana Botany several times over.
I know the risks, and i know what the rewards can poetnially be as well
Let you know what happens when i try them.
Its only pollen, so spread it and find out!?!
The ferm i used were: rks(reserva prevada),tangerine dream,acapulco gold and dr. Grispoon(barneys farm).
Non had shown any hermaphrodites, so i wonder if i will get any pure males and pure females!
They are at least worth trying for me since i can't get them in regular seed form.
I have been doing this for a while read many books on breeding, including Marijuana Botany several times over.
I know the risks, and i know what the rewards can poetnially be as well
Let you know what happens when i try them.
Its only pollen, so spread it and find out!?!
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman
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making fems isn't "breeding" and producing regular offpsring from fems is annoying and ineffective way to get what you wan't, if your breeder does not sell regular seeds, they DONT want you to breed with their gear and they likely dont care. BF, RP, GHSC, Dinafem all do this bullcrap and expect people to take their cup wins seriously, they don't use fem plants to win the cups, so why sell something that they didn't win with and them claim its a "Cup winner".... i'd like to buy a pack of Jack the ripper, toss some CS on her and then call the offspring, "an award winning strain".
fucking people talking out of there asses about shit they clearly know nothing about. presenting opinions as fact just because you want to try to get others to agree with your opinion is bullshit. there is way to much misinformation being spread by people.
Capt. Stickyfingers
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Here's a double fem cross. Some pollen from a herm Larry fem hit my Lost Coast OG fem. These pics are @7wks but I'm in the 8th week now and still no nanners and it's turning out to be a better producer than both the parents.
Larry x Lost Coast OG
Larry x Lost Coast OG
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman
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so in your opinion fem seeds are primo breeding material? cup wins are legitimate and the non-existence of regular seeds for these cup winning strains is an "opinion"? sorry kid, grow up . they are selling you a product for which they never bred or even used in the competition. good luck. wouldn't it be grand if they grew their own feminized gear and then showed up to the cup trying to win with it? i'm sure they would lose.
apparently 'opinion' is now interchangeable with fact, or atleast in your dictionary.
Capt. Stickyfingers
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Who really gives a fuck about the cannabis cup? You still hold that bs in high regard? How do you know they're not using feminized genetics? You don't. If you don't think a feminized plant is as potent or tasty as a reg, you're full of shit.
Capt. Stickyfingers
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Yes, but it's possible that some of the females in the offspring could turn out hermaphrodite. Maybe not.
Jogro
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To actually answer this question, yes, you can breed a female plant grown from a feminized seed with a conventional male plant to get normal mixed-sex offspring.
These offspring "should not" have any more tendency to be hermaphroditic than the parent stock they came from. So the chance of you getting all "hermie" offspring isn't zero, but unless you're starting with hermi-prone parents, it should be pretty small.
Note that fem mom or not, if you're crossing auto and NON-auto parents, you should expect NONE of the ensuing F1 generation offspring to themselves be autoflowering. All the offspring will carry one copy of the autoflowering gene, and since the gene is recessive, a plant needs to carry TWO copies to be itself autoflowering.
If you want 100% autoflowering offspring, you have to start with two autoflowering parents.
Also note that there actually is more than one different gene out there for autoflowering. If by dumb luck you attempted to cross two different autoflowering plants with two different autoflowering genes, again, you might end up with ZERO autoflowering plants in the ensuing offspring.
Jogro
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In general, this is true, but I think there may be one exception.
My understanding is that some plants can't self-fertilize; pollen created by male flowers from hermaphroditic plants may in fact be sterile.
|B3RNY|
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First of all, I've grown many regular seeds AND feminized seeds... and so far, my only hermaphrodites (admittedly caused by me) came from regular seeds & bag seeds. ALL cannabis plants that have ever lived, carry the potential to "hermy." Pollen + pistil = reproduction (unless 1, or both, parents happen to be sterile.)
Secondly, only plants that were bred with a genetic hermaphrodite as a parent will produce higher %'s of hermaphroditic plants. Breeders use stress-induced hermaphrodites (which can be done to any plant, within reason), because (obviously) they don't want to sell hermaphroditic seeds. Parents pass traits to young, if a genetic hermy is used- hermy traits will appear frequently; if a stress-induced hermy is used then the chances of hermaphroditic plants should be no higher than usual (or in a regular seed.)
Also, I doubt anyone here knows exactly what's used in the Cannabis Cup and most people don't care anymore because it seems like the winner is always the breeder with the best marketing strategy. My point here is that, I'm pretty sure Dinafem only breeds feminized seeds but THEIR Critical + (Bilbo) won the Highlife Cup of Barcelona in 2011... so maybe they aren't used in the precious Cannabis Cup but they were (I assume) used in the Highlife Cup.
Offering feminized seeds doesn't necessarily mean a breeder doesn't want anyone breeding with their genetics, because it can be done anyways... and many strains aren't legit until they have been selfed, which would make them feminized almost automatically.
There's plenty of home-made crosses between reg X reg, reg X fem, fem X reg & fem X fem. I wonder, if one grew some bud from A strain, using 1 regular seed and 1 feminized seed (getting a similar phenotype)- could u mix up the nugs and then be able to tell them apart by potency? ...I really, highly doubt it.
If you don't like fems, then don't grow 'em. That doesn't mean you have to make others believe that regular seeds are better just because you prefer them. (I do admit that regular seeds/breeding NEEDS to be upheld & that they offer much more freedom in growing/breeding BUT feminized seeds have their place in the cannabis world any 1000's of people absolutely love 'em.)
Secondly, only plants that were bred with a genetic hermaphrodite as a parent will produce higher %'s of hermaphroditic plants. Breeders use stress-induced hermaphrodites (which can be done to any plant, within reason), because (obviously) they don't want to sell hermaphroditic seeds. Parents pass traits to young, if a genetic hermy is used- hermy traits will appear frequently; if a stress-induced hermy is used then the chances of hermaphroditic plants should be no higher than usual (or in a regular seed.)
Also, I doubt anyone here knows exactly what's used in the Cannabis Cup and most people don't care anymore because it seems like the winner is always the breeder with the best marketing strategy. My point here is that, I'm pretty sure Dinafem only breeds feminized seeds but THEIR Critical + (Bilbo) won the Highlife Cup of Barcelona in 2011... so maybe they aren't used in the precious Cannabis Cup but they were (I assume) used in the Highlife Cup.
Offering feminized seeds doesn't necessarily mean a breeder doesn't want anyone breeding with their genetics, because it can be done anyways... and many strains aren't legit until they have been selfed, which would make them feminized almost automatically.
There's plenty of home-made crosses between reg X reg, reg X fem, fem X reg & fem X fem. I wonder, if one grew some bud from A strain, using 1 regular seed and 1 feminized seed (getting a similar phenotype)- could u mix up the nugs and then be able to tell them apart by potency? ...I really, highly doubt it.
If you don't like fems, then don't grow 'em. That doesn't mean you have to make others believe that regular seeds are better just because you prefer them. (I do admit that regular seeds/breeding NEEDS to be upheld & that they offer much more freedom in growing/breeding BUT feminized seeds have their place in the cannabis world any 1000's of people absolutely love 'em.)