The absolute easiest way to get Psylocibin

canndo

Well-Known Member
Some of you folks are looking for the easiest way to get yourself a decent stash of mushroom but you don't want to go through the hastle and expense of fruiting cubensis. So why bother?

Here is the absolute easiest way possible to get yourself such a delight is to grow sclerotia.

Get yourself a case of pint jars, if you like tyvek use that, better yet purchase a dozen filter disks and drill small holes in your jar lids. The point in this excercise is that you will be growing myclium for a long period of time and so there needs to be some air exchange, not too much as you don't want the insides to get dry. And you will definitely want to use injection ports.

Your best substrate is rye grass seed - you can find it in the spring in any landscape place - Don't use mixes unless the mix is predominantly rye grass seed. If you can't find it, use rye berries, you don't want to use anything else, rice, flour, corn, that sort of stuff works poorly if at all.


Boil the grain or seed in water until it is fully saturated and then place it in your jars If you want to, put a teaspoon of finely ground coffee into the jar. It is said that coffee promotes the production of sclerotia.
- fill the jars about 3/4 full, don't pack them. Close the lid up tight, Let the jars sit for 24 hours and then either steam for a couple of hours or pressure cook for 45 minutes at 15 lbs.


After the jars have cooled, inject each one with a cc or three of spores (more on the spores later), if you use grain, you can shake the jar, if not, don't bother. Then put the jars in a dark place that won't get warmer than about 80 degrees and won't freeze. Wait 2 months or so and then open the jars, dump out the mycelial puck and pick through it for the truffles - you are done. The truffles are about 3/4 as potent but they there is more by weight their being only 70 percent water rather than 90 percent as in mushrooms. some say they have a slightly different effect and I agree, but I do not believe it is because of the form.

Spores:

Cubensis spores will NOT work (although I firmly believe I discovered and then lost a sclerotia forming Cubensis about 10 years ago).

You want Mexicana (A) spores or Atlantia spores or Tampanensis (although these don't work as well).


If you think about it, the two months is not so long, if you have innoculated a dozen jars you will have all the truffles a person could want for himself and his friends to have quite a number of wonderful experiences - no fruting chamber, no contamination problems, no fanning, no light, no humidity problems, no mess.

Try it.
 

Jogro

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If you just want "quick and dirty'", my understanding is that late in growth, the mycelium itself contains psilocybin, so you could just eat that.

Not as tasty/potent mixed with rye berries (or other medium) as compared to pure fruiting bodies (ie "mushrooms"), but it should still create the desired effect.

If you don't want to eat the medium itself, or you've made it with something less than edible, like vermiculite, you can simply extract out the psilocybin cheaply and easily with hot water to create a tea.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
If you just want "quick and dirty'", my understanding is that late in growth, the mycelium itself contains psilocybin, so you could just eat that.

Not as tasty/potent mixed with rye berries (or other medium) as compared to pure fruiting bodies (ie "mushrooms"), but it should still create the desired effect.

If you don't want to eat the medium itself, or you've made it with something less than edible, like vermiculite, you can simply extract out the psilocybin cheaply and easily with hot water to create a tea.

While we agree in spirit, if you want enough to get where you want to go a number of times, you will be hard pressed to get that much mycelium, even on grain. Furthermore, there is a cycle, young myclium will not have nearly the content that older mycelium does, It is easy enough to discover simply by checking the bluing potential, if the mycelium does not turn blue from bruising, wait. But (and I am estimating) you might get one, dose from a fully colonized pint jar if you are lucky. The point here is not quick nor dirty but easy. Sclerotia yields can be surprisingly large.
 

sonar

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Nice man. I think I might give this a try at some point. Not so much just because it is easy, but for the variety.
 

sonar

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Is it even worth trying to fruit mexicana and pick through the sclerotia later or just run them strictly for the sclerotia? I'm not sure the potency of mexicana fruits but I know they grow pretty small compared to cubensis.
 

crazyhazey

Well-Known Member
Some of you folks are looking for the easiest way to get yourself a decent stash of mushroom but you don't want to go through the hastle and expense of fruiting cubensis. So why bother?

Here is the absolute easiest way possible to get yourself such a delight is to grow sclerotia.

Get yourself a case of pint jars, if you like tyvek use that, better yet purchase a dozen filter disks and drill small holes in your jar lids. The point in this excercise is that you will be growing myclium for a long period of time and so there needs to be some air exchange, not too much as you don't want the insides to get dry. And you will definitely want to use injection ports.

Your best substrate is rye grass seed - you can find it in the spring in any landscape place - Don't use mixes unless the mix is predominantly rye grass seed. If you can't find it, use rye berries, you don't want to use anything else, rice, flour, corn, that sort of stuff works poorly if at all.


Boil the grain or seed in water until it is fully saturated and then place it in your jars If you want to, put a teaspoon of finely ground coffee into the jar. It is said that coffee promotes the production of sclerotia.
- fill the jars about 3/4 full, don't pack them. Close the lid up tight, Let the jars sit for 24 hours and then either steam for a couple of hours or pressure cook for 45 minutes at 15 lbs.


After the jars have cooled, inject each one with a cc or three of spores (more on the spores later), if you use grain, you can shake the jar, if not, don't bother. Then put the jars in a dark place that won't get warmer than about 80 degrees and won't freeze. Wait 2 months or so and then open the jars, dump out the mycelial puck and pick through it for the truffles - you are done. The truffles are about 3/4 as potent but they there is more by weight their being only 70 percent water rather than 90 percent as in mushrooms. some say they have a slightly different effect and I agree, but I do not believe it is because of the form.

Spores:

Cubensis spores will NOT work (although I firmly believe I discovered and then lost a sclerotia forming Cubensis about 10 years ago).

You want Mexicana (A) spores or Atlantia spores or Tampanensis (although these don't work as well).


If you think about it, the two months is not so long, if you have innoculated a dozen jars you will have all the truffles a person could want for himself and his friends to have quite a number of wonderful experiences - no fruting chamber, no contamination problems, no fanning, no light, no humidity problems, no mess.

Try it.
dimethyltryptamine > mushrooms
 

weasels911

Well-Known Member
dimethyltryptamine > mushrooms
Variety is the spice of life. :D

This is rather interesting as I seem to have more jars than I know what to do with. I have had lots of cubes fruit on me while in the jars, this seems quite similar. How do you do this perpetually since you aren't able to make a spore syringe? LC or G2G? Also where and in what section do you think I could find some rye berries locally?

[video=youtube;MyCO3_Oqh4I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCO3_Oqh4I&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
 

crazyhazey

Well-Known Member
Variety is the spice of life. :D

This is rather interesting as I seem to have more jars than I know what to do with. I have had lots of cubes fruit on me while in the jars, this seems quite similar. How do you do this perpetually since you aren't able to make a spore syringe? LC or G2G? Also where and in what section do you think I could find some rye berries locally?

[video=youtube;MyCO3_Oqh4I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCO3_Oqh4I&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
very true. i believe shrooms are for fun, dmt is great for further exploring life and your psyche.
i guess to simplify, i take shrooms for fun and dmt when im looking for a further meaning of life. i believe a bit of dmt for anyone is healthy, you learn much about yourself why mushrooms, lsd and other hallucinogens may leave you feeling stupid the next day. this is because they're poison for the brain, dimethyltryptamine is produced when you dream so i feel like calling it a drug is a bit dramatic, its more like a quick dream. however, it is the most illegal. so should we be arrested for having a dream?
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Variety is the spice of life. :D

This is rather interesting as I seem to have more jars than I know what to do with. I have had lots of cubes fruit on me while in the jars, this seems quite similar. How do you do this perpetually since you aren't able to make a spore syringe? LC or G2G? Also where and in what section do you think I could find some rye berries locally?

[video=youtube;MyCO3_Oqh4I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCO3_Oqh4I&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
Thanks for the vid Weasel - great example. You take clones (again the agar method works). It is said that the sclerotia has the ability to be completely dried, and when it is rehydrated, it will continue to grow. I have tried this with sclerotia that was dried and frozen for 5 years - it didn't work for me but it makes sense. Tissue taken from fresh sclerotia certainly does though.

You can order rye berries online, you can go to health food stores for it as well. You should try to use rye grass seed, you can get it now at home depot or lowes. By the way, don't be fooled, those sclerotia you see on that jar are not just on the outside but grow all through the substrate.
 

Unnk

Well-Known Member
very true. i believe shrooms are for fun, dmt is great for further exploring life and your psyche.
i guess to simplify, i take shrooms for fun and dmt when im looking for a further meaning of life. i believe a bit of dmt for anyone is healthy, you learn much about yourself why mushrooms, lsd and other hallucinogens may leave you feeling stupid the next day. this is because they're poison for the brain, dimethyltryptamine is produced when you dream so i feel like calling it a drug is a bit dramatic, its more like a quick dream. however, it is the most illegal. so should we be arrested for having a dream?


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i gotta rub my eyes and re read this


homie

DMT.... 4-HO-DMT

Shrooms essentially are a DMT analogue
 
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